Titoli di Stato area non Euro ARGENTINA obbligazioni e tango bond (4 lettori)
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NoWay
It's time to play the game
30% di recovery? E quando mai?
Io ho un'obbligazione IslandsBanki (poi Glitnir) scaduta nel 2010 di cui non si sa letteralmente più niente!!!
Ho compilato dei form, ma di proposte di "restituzione maltolto" nemmeno mezza!!!
A questo punto meglio argentini o greci... ti tosano in fretta, ma ti danno anche la possibilità di recuperare!
gipa69
collegio dei patafisici
Secondo me avrebbero potuto far meglio invece con una classe politica incompentente, arruffona e ladra che si è portato via buona parte delle riserve, con un controllo del mercato nero insignificante, con una sottovalutazione strutturale della svalutazione del Brasile che era uno dei propri principali partners ha fatto molto male.
L'Uruguay che nello stesso periodo, incastonato com'è tra il Brasile e Argentina, subi una forte crisi finanziaria con il fallimenti di banche ed un debito esterno molto elevato la soluzione adottata fu uno scambio del debito molto più soft che la comunità internazionale apprezzò moltissimo. (93% di adesione all'offerta dio scambio).
Tra parentesi l'Uruguay prese soldi dall'IMF e poi li restitui...
Proceedings of the Fourth Inter-regional Debt Management Conference And ... - Google Libri
capt.harlock
MENA IL CAMMELLO FAN CLUB
Si legge da tutte le parti che l'argentina è alla canna del gas e il par è schizzato, peccato averne presi pochi....
Mha
siamo tornati sulla linea maginot
adesso dipende da griesa..
fabriziof
Forumer storico
Argentina Bondholders Reject Proposal on Defaulted Debt Payments
Bob Van VorisApr 20, 2013 12:01 am ET
April 20 (Bloomberg) -- Holders of Argentina’s defaulted debt, led by Elliott Management Corp.’s NML Capital Ltd. unit, rejected the nation’s proposal to force them to take a sharp discount on their bonds.
The bondholders, who claim they’re owed $1.47 billion in principal and interest, responded yesterday to Argentina’s proposed plan, which it made in a March 29 court filing with the federal appeals court in New York. They said the plan showed “contempt for its obligations, the laws of the United States, and the orders of U.S. courts.”
Argentina defaulted on a record $95 billion in debt in 2001. In its filing, the country offered to replace the defaulted bonds with new ones that the bondholders claim would be worth less than 15 percent of what they’re owed.
“Argentina’s years of defiance cannot be cured by a convoluted offer to give appellees yet more Argentine IOUs worth pennies on the dollar,” the bondholders said.
The filing, which came three days before it was due, paves the way for a ruling by the appeals court in the case.
A decision forcing Argentina to pay the defaulted bondholders immediately would expose it to $43 billion in additional claims it can’t pay and trigger a new default, the government claims. Top officials have vowed never to pay the holders of its defaulted bonds, many of which bought them at a discount as distressed debt.
Won’t Obey
Argentina has said it won’t voluntarily obey a ruling that forces it to pay holders of the defaulted bonds. The nation’s legislature in 2005 passed a so-called lock law barring payment.
Argentina’s March 29 proposal was similar to offers the country made in two rounds of debt restructuring, in 2005 and 2010. The holdout creditors, who rejected the restructuring offers, have spent more than a decade trying to enforce their claims in court.
The creditors want the appeals court to uphold rulings by U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa in Manhattan. Griesa said that Argentina must pay them the entire amount they’re owed whenever it makes a required payment to holders of its restructured debt. That ruling is on appeal before a three-judge panel of the appeals court, which heard arguments in the case in February.
The Exchange Bondholder Group, which took the deal offered by Argentina for their bonds, claimed Griesa’s rulings threaten their investment. More than 91 percent of bondholders agreed to the restructuring.
The lower court case is NML Capital Ltd. v. Republic of Argentina, 08-cv-06978, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan). The appeal is NML Capital Ltd. v. Republic of Argentina, 12-00105, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (New Y
Bob Van VorisApr 20, 2013 12:01 am ET
April 20 (Bloomberg) -- Holders of Argentina’s defaulted debt, led by Elliott Management Corp.’s NML Capital Ltd. unit, rejected the nation’s proposal to force them to take a sharp discount on their bonds.
The bondholders, who claim they’re owed $1.47 billion in principal and interest, responded yesterday to Argentina’s proposed plan, which it made in a March 29 court filing with the federal appeals court in New York. They said the plan showed “contempt for its obligations, the laws of the United States, and the orders of U.S. courts.”
Argentina defaulted on a record $95 billion in debt in 2001. In its filing, the country offered to replace the defaulted bonds with new ones that the bondholders claim would be worth less than 15 percent of what they’re owed.
“Argentina’s years of defiance cannot be cured by a convoluted offer to give appellees yet more Argentine IOUs worth pennies on the dollar,” the bondholders said.
The filing, which came three days before it was due, paves the way for a ruling by the appeals court in the case.
A decision forcing Argentina to pay the defaulted bondholders immediately would expose it to $43 billion in additional claims it can’t pay and trigger a new default, the government claims. Top officials have vowed never to pay the holders of its defaulted bonds, many of which bought them at a discount as distressed debt.
Won’t Obey
Argentina has said it won’t voluntarily obey a ruling that forces it to pay holders of the defaulted bonds. The nation’s legislature in 2005 passed a so-called lock law barring payment.
Argentina’s March 29 proposal was similar to offers the country made in two rounds of debt restructuring, in 2005 and 2010. The holdout creditors, who rejected the restructuring offers, have spent more than a decade trying to enforce their claims in court.
The creditors want the appeals court to uphold rulings by U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa in Manhattan. Griesa said that Argentina must pay them the entire amount they’re owed whenever it makes a required payment to holders of its restructured debt. That ruling is on appeal before a three-judge panel of the appeals court, which heard arguments in the case in February.
The Exchange Bondholder Group, which took the deal offered by Argentina for their bonds, claimed Griesa’s rulings threaten their investment. More than 91 percent of bondholders agreed to the restructuring.
The lower court case is NML Capital Ltd. v. Republic of Argentina, 08-cv-06978, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York (Manhattan). The appeal is NML Capital Ltd. v. Republic of Argentina, 12-00105, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (New Y
dagoweb
Forumer attivo
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/files/2013/04/NMLreply.pdf
Si consiglia la lettura degli allegati relativi alla storia della ristrutturazione dei bonds sovrani e le relative comparazioni.
Si consiglia la lettura degli allegati relativi alla storia della ristrutturazione dei bonds sovrani e le relative comparazioni.
bia06
Listen other's viewpoint avoid conflicts & wars.
Quali avete in pf?
Innanzitutto un caro saluto al Capitano
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x Tutti:
Mi dite per favore quale isin avete in pf o ritenete piu´ interessante al momento?
Io sono a zero come argentina e vorrei studiarmele un po´.
Grazie mille !
Innanzitutto un caro saluto al Capitano
.x Tutti:
Mi dite per favore quale isin avete in pf o ritenete piu´ interessante al momento?
Io sono a zero come argentina e vorrei studiarmele un po´.
Grazie mille !
ficodindia
Forumer storico
I fondi avvoltoi respingono la proposta del governo Argentino.
Tutto nelle previsioni. Aspettarsi un esito diverso era impossibili. Daltronde anche il governo argentino resterà fermo nella sua posizione per cui delle due l'una: 1) o la corte d'appello americana modifica la sentenza del giudice Griesa obbligando in qualche modo i fondi avvoltoio ad accettare la proposta del Governo argentino, 2) oppure, se viene confermata la sentenza Griesa, l'Argentina troverà comunque una soluzione per onorare il servizio del debito ristrutturato.
Argentina Bondholders Reject Plan to Pay Defaulted Debt - Bloomberg
Tutto nelle previsioni. Aspettarsi un esito diverso era impossibili. Daltronde anche il governo argentino resterà fermo nella sua posizione per cui delle due l'una: 1) o la corte d'appello americana modifica la sentenza del giudice Griesa obbligando in qualche modo i fondi avvoltoio ad accettare la proposta del Governo argentino, 2) oppure, se viene confermata la sentenza Griesa, l'Argentina troverà comunque una soluzione per onorare il servizio del debito ristrutturato.
Argentina Bondholders Reject Plan to Pay Defaulted Debt - Bloomberg
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