duca.64
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...vai topo...non mollare
...testa di ponte ...il tempo stringe
Non ci faremo cogliere di sorpresa,....................................
Un bravo ad Andrea, che "Barcolla, ma NON molla!",....................
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Non ci faremo cogliere di sorpresa,.................................... Un bravo ad Andrea, che "Barcolla, ma NON molla!",....................
gilles1
Forumer storico
buongiorno a tutti
da Parigi posso solo confermare che la situazione è esplosiva.
Oltre a CIF ricordate il caso Dexia. Il sistema è vicino al collasso, il rapporto debito/pil aumenta vertiginosamente, la bolla immobiliare iniziata dopo la correzione 2008-2009 ha portato in 2 anni i prezzi degli immobili a Parigi al flat rate di 10.000 euro/m2 e, come conseguenza, 4-5.000 euro/m2 nei comuni della banlieue.
Insostenibile.
Le Figaro - Politique : La rentre rate du gouvernement
BYE BYE
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FreeWind69
...armonia
...posizione mista/coperta ...sell 1/3 xbr 1/3 dax2s ...buy 1/2 levmib 1/2 lvc 1/2 enel 1/2 tit 1/2 eni ...in denaro per 2/2 enel 1/2 tit 1/2 eni ...sotto 15840 chiudo lev ed incremento xbr ...a 1434-36 probabile riduco nuovamente lunghi
FreeWind69
...armonia
...enel deve chiudere qualche cent sopra questi livelli altrimenti fuori ...eni deve chiudere sopra 68 altrimenti fuori
MATLEY
Forumer storico
buona sera gilles,
molto interessante!
commetto sempre l'errore di trascurare la Francia ed il CAC...
Pessime news anche dagli usa:
Rating Usa: Moody's minaccia il downgrade
Per gli analisti, gli Usa devono giungere a un accordo per ridurre il rapporto debito Pil
L’agenzia di rating Moody’s ha minacciato di tagliare il suo giudizio sugli Usa se non si giungerà quanto prima a un accordo sulla questione del debito. Attualmente per Moody’s il rating sovrano Usa è AAA con outlook negativo (USA: Moody’s mantiene il rating AAA con outlook negativo, attenzione sul deficit).
Nel caso downgrade, il rating potrebbe essere portato a Aa1. Nella nota sugli Usa, Moody’s ha anche affermato che se le parti si mostrassero in grado di arrivare a un accordo sul debito il rating AAA sarebbe confermato e l’outlook tornerebbe a stabile.
Moody’s e Fitch sono le due uniche agenzie che hanno mantenuto la tripla A sul rating Usa mentre Standard and Poor’s aveva già declassato il rating (Rating Usa: Fitch conferma la tripla A ma restano ombre).
Ecco il testo della mail inviata da Moody’s
“Se questi negoziati dovessero portare a politiche specifiche che producono una stabilizzazione e poi un trend al ribasso nel rapporto tra debito e Pil nel medio termine, il rating verosimilmente verrebbe confermato e l’outlook ritornerebbe stabile. Se i negoziati dovessero fallire senza produrre tali politiche, allora Moody’s si aspetterebbe di abbassare il rating, probabilmente a AA1***8243;
Link: Rating Usa: Moody’s minaccia il downgrade - Economia - Investireoggi.it
MATLEY
Forumer storico
attenzione bye,
se domani alle 10:00 da krukklandia non arriva la news che attendiamo questa volta ci asfaltano...
avrei chiuso la tranche odierna di xbear sulla chiusura del gap sotto i 15800 lasciato aperto il 7 settembre. Invece hanno chiuso il gap down di questa mattina per poi ripartire...
attendo l'eseguito del boss su poligrafici edit
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MATLEY
Forumer storico
tanto di cappello con inchino free
i miei più sinceri complimenti.
Spero, in futuro, vorrai condividere nuovamente la tua straordinaria operatività...
se fossi un pezzo di fiqua ti tromberei violentemente... un po sul tavolo e un po per terra....
MATLEY
Forumer storico
i giochi sui metalli sono chiusi?
Bill Gross says that Gold, of all things is a better investment than bonds or stocks. Here is the guy who manages something like $1 trillion and thinks that GOLD is better than stocks or bonds? Quest'uomo gestisce qualcosa come 1 TRIlione di dollari e dice che l'ORO è meglio degli stocks o dei bond?!
What if he decides to start to buy some Gold as a hedge? PIMCO of course has a commodities fund which has recently upped it's stake in Gold but what about the huge flagship funds? He said that, long term, stocks and bonds will not return much...so maybe he'll want to sprinkle a little bit of Gold dust around the portfolios to tweak his returns?
Well, maybe not because of the prospectus but it's certainly a humorous thought!
Last month we found out that George Soros and John Paulson have exited their financials and built up their Gold positions. Now this news from Bill Gross... Gold UP $34...what's up with this? Isn't it a non farm payroll reporting day? Doesn't Gold and Silver get smashed 99% of the time before and during these reports no matter what they report?
What the heck happened?
Turned the corner, that's what's happened. One full year with the "official foot" on the throats of Gold and Silver and as illustrated by the Bill Gross interview, people are finally figuring it out. The "correction" that was so carefully orchestrated did nothing other than irritate sentiment and get investors, some very big investors to start scratching their heads as to why the metals acted the way they did. Do not expect the Bill Gross's of the world to come out now and say...
"Gold and Silver are artificially low because their prices have been suppressed". They will at some point and are beginning to act...vote...with their capital.
Everything that Bill Gross said is correct and nothing he said is anything that you haven't heard before like a broken record. What he said is at most, basic, solidly grounded and pure common sense and logic.
Five years ago, what he said would not have been acceptable nor would it have been carried by Bloomberg. He would have been ridiculed, laughed at and possibly even blackballed by the financial media. He did not put a number out there when he was asked at the end. Maybe he didn't want to get pinned down, maybe he didn't want to sound like one of us "lunatics" or...maybe he has done ALL of the logic and understands that you CANNOT put a number on Gold because it is a finite resource that will be chased by unlimited paper!
In any case, this is big, VERY BIG, when the biggest money manager in the world speaks the truth and tells us exactly the conclusion that we've already come to. Is Gold up today because of Bill Gross? Maybe, maybe not, but there is certainly no selling based on his comments. We are now getting close to the point where it will be "cool" to be bullish on the metals. Just on his own, Bill Gross, because he is so mainstream and widely accepted, has made it at least "OK" to be bullish. Not "in the closet" bullish. PUBLICLY bullish!
We are not done yet for the day and there is still time for the cabal to make an attempt to put Gold back in its 2% box. How about a 3 - 3 1/2 % day here and stuff the shorts? Whether it is now, next week or next month, it is coming. Go back to last Friday and remember the same upwards action going into a weekend!? Someone really wants in...over the weekend...remember...WEEKEND? The "Reset" will be over a weekend! This by the way is happening while the Dollar is weakening versus other paper currencies. The upside momentum was waning for the Dollar. It has finally rolled over and is now beginning to see liquidation. 30-60 days from now could be a very DIFFERENT landscape altogether. A waterfall move by the Dollar would not be surprising at all and of course, a moonshot move by the metals would go hand in hand should this occur.
A weakening Dollar is no longer necessary for higher metals prices as ALL paper currencies have the same problem and investors of all nationalities are faced with the same problems as are owners of Dollars.
Welcome Bill Gross! You haven't lost your mind!
Hold on to your hats and ounces folks!
Where Gold Investors come for crucial market insight!
Bill Gross says that Gold, of all things is a better investment than bonds or stocks. Here is the guy who manages something like $1 trillion and thinks that GOLD is better than stocks or bonds? Quest'uomo gestisce qualcosa come 1 TRIlione di dollari e dice che l'ORO è meglio degli stocks o dei bond?!
What if he decides to start to buy some Gold as a hedge? PIMCO of course has a commodities fund which has recently upped it's stake in Gold but what about the huge flagship funds? He said that, long term, stocks and bonds will not return much...so maybe he'll want to sprinkle a little bit of Gold dust around the portfolios to tweak his returns?
Well, maybe not because of the prospectus but it's certainly a humorous thought!
Last month we found out that George Soros and John Paulson have exited their financials and built up their Gold positions. Now this news from Bill Gross... Gold UP $34...what's up with this? Isn't it a non farm payroll reporting day? Doesn't Gold and Silver get smashed 99% of the time before and during these reports no matter what they report?
What the heck happened?
Turned the corner, that's what's happened. One full year with the "official foot" on the throats of Gold and Silver and as illustrated by the Bill Gross interview, people are finally figuring it out. The "correction" that was so carefully orchestrated did nothing other than irritate sentiment and get investors, some very big investors to start scratching their heads as to why the metals acted the way they did. Do not expect the Bill Gross's of the world to come out now and say...
"Gold and Silver are artificially low because their prices have been suppressed". They will at some point and are beginning to act...vote...with their capital.
Everything that Bill Gross said is correct and nothing he said is anything that you haven't heard before like a broken record. What he said is at most, basic, solidly grounded and pure common sense and logic.
Five years ago, what he said would not have been acceptable nor would it have been carried by Bloomberg. He would have been ridiculed, laughed at and possibly even blackballed by the financial media. He did not put a number out there when he was asked at the end. Maybe he didn't want to get pinned down, maybe he didn't want to sound like one of us "lunatics" or...maybe he has done ALL of the logic and understands that you CANNOT put a number on Gold because it is a finite resource that will be chased by unlimited paper!
In any case, this is big, VERY BIG, when the biggest money manager in the world speaks the truth and tells us exactly the conclusion that we've already come to. Is Gold up today because of Bill Gross? Maybe, maybe not, but there is certainly no selling based on his comments. We are now getting close to the point where it will be "cool" to be bullish on the metals. Just on his own, Bill Gross, because he is so mainstream and widely accepted, has made it at least "OK" to be bullish. Not "in the closet" bullish. PUBLICLY bullish!
We are not done yet for the day and there is still time for the cabal to make an attempt to put Gold back in its 2% box. How about a 3 - 3 1/2 % day here and stuff the shorts? Whether it is now, next week or next month, it is coming. Go back to last Friday and remember the same upwards action going into a weekend!? Someone really wants in...over the weekend...remember...WEEKEND? The "Reset" will be over a weekend! This by the way is happening while the Dollar is weakening versus other paper currencies. The upside momentum was waning for the Dollar. It has finally rolled over and is now beginning to see liquidation. 30-60 days from now could be a very DIFFERENT landscape altogether. A waterfall move by the Dollar would not be surprising at all and of course, a moonshot move by the metals would go hand in hand should this occur.
A weakening Dollar is no longer necessary for higher metals prices as ALL paper currencies have the same problem and investors of all nationalities are faced with the same problems as are owners of Dollars.
Welcome Bill Gross! You haven't lost your mind!
Hold on to your hats and ounces folks!
Where Gold Investors come for crucial market insight!
