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ones^

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Nella seduta di ieri il future sull'oro con scadenza febbraio 05 ha chiuso in flessione di 1,8 punti chiudendo a 437$ con un minimo a 433,4$ testando da vicino la mm50 a 432,03$ che potrebbe rappresentare il cambio del trend (vedremo).Per oggi i supporti sono 432.6$ e 428,3$ mentre le resistenze a 442,1$ e 447,3$. Operatività sempre in ambito intraday sui livelli indicati.


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ones^

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Altra seduta negativa per il future sull'oro con scadenza febbraio 05 chiudendo a 435,6$ dopo aver testato il supporto in area 433$ indicato come livello operativo intraday. La prox settimana ci darà una chiara idea della direzione del mercato che sembra orientato al ribasso in ambito daily.Grande importanza a questo punto assume la mm50 che potrà dare un segnale utile per capirne i comportamenti futuri.Una tenuta della stessa rappresenta un buon segnale per aprire nuove posizioni long verso nuovi high storici.Viceversa una penetrazione al ribasso ci porterebbe una ulteriore conferma del cambio del trend e di conseguenza aprire posizioni short che dovrebbero garantirci un profit minimo in area 418$.

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Adesso diamo uno sguardo al COT aggiornato ed alle varizioni di posizioni:


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ones^

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Inizio di settimana positivo per il future sull'oro febbraio 05 che chiude avanzando di 4.6 punti a 440,2$ dopo un max a 441,7$.La tenuta della mm50 è un segnale molto importante per la tenuta del trend up infatti il supporto principale per oggi resta sempre in area 432$. Come abbiamo detto sabato 11, la tenuta della mm era un buon livello per longare e quindi l'operatività resta long verso traguardi molto ambiziosi in area 464$. Stop in pari sotto la mm50 con reverse però confermato da almeno 2 ulteriori sedute negative. I livelli per oggi sono 432$/436,5$ e resistenze a 442,8$/445,4$



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gipa69

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Se la storia si ripete per gli auriferi si prepara un periodo pesante......
è di qualche giorno fa.....



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ones^

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Seduta negativa per il future sull'oro nella giornata del 14 dicembre 2004 che ha chiuso a 437,3$ dopo un high a 443$.L'operatività resta la stessa di inizio settimana, preferendo quindi operazioni long sui supporti in area 435 e sulla mm50 a 432,6$.Prossima resistenza da testare 445,4$.

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ones^

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Seduta positiva per l'oro che chiude avanzando di ben 4,9 punti a 442,2$ dopo un high a 443,1$ mostrando quindi chiari segnali di forza che confermano la rinascita di un trend rialzista con conseguente rialzo dei supporti odierni a 438,2$ e 434,3$ (livelli consigliati per aprire posizioni long).Nel grafico sottostante possiamo infatti notare una tenuta della trend rialzista del 29/07/04 che rappresenta insieme alla mm50 l'unico punto di seria inversione del trend up del metallo prezioso. Come notiamo dai punti evidenziati sul grafico, la trend rialzista è stata in grado di sostenere tutte le prese di fiato del mercato dopo high di periodo molto importanti :)

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ones^

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generali1984 ha scritto:
ones^ ha scritto:
Ho trovato in rete un grafico molto interessante..... :)



Ecco qui se ci spari un commentino sarebbe gradito ,
perchè interessante ?


Scusami generali...ma ho visto adesso il tuo quesito non ci avevo fatto caso :)
Ti riporto in originale la spiegazione data dall'autore del grafico, è un'analisi davvero interessante:


It is clear the precious metal shares are correcting and it will be a difficult correction as I see it. The selloff may not be as bad as the one that took place in 1974. We do appear to be having a 30-year cycle repeat performance in many areas. Wave theory can be a mish mosh of nothing but hopes and fears if you keep your nose stuck to the canvas. If you back off and take a look from a distance you may discover some helpful information. Here is what I see.
The current monthly chart of the HUI shows a flat type correction unfolding. The peak was December of 2003. The down move that followed and bottomed in the month of May 2004 I labeled Wave A. This was followed by a rally that just peaked in November. This I labeled Wave B. Wave B failed to make a new high and price has started down in Wave C. Wave C should be the final Wave down and take us to the area of the previous Wave 4. The full range for the previous Wave 4 is 90 to 150. I think it is reasonable to assume that the decline may halt at or near the apex of the triangle that wave 4 formed. Fourth waves often take the shape of a triangle. The apex is aproximatly at 120. If we decline to the 120 area the correction may be over.
In 1974 Homestake was the bellweather stock for gold shares. It had a very severe correction that wiped out more than 60 percent of its market value. On August 16, 1974 Homestake topped at a price of $11.31 a share. It bottomed in the $4.40 area. That represented a collapse of about 62 percent.
I do not believe that the HUI will have a correction as vicious as Homestake did in 1974/1975. My reason for thinking the selloff this time, 30 years later, will not be as bad is the "rule" of alternation. The correction in 1974 was an A, B, C zig zag. The correction in the HUI this time around has the appearance of a potential FLAT and not a ZIG ZAG. Corrections tend to alternate in type and appearance. They alternate even three decades apart in the same items. If this analysis is correct, sometime in 2005 we may have a bottom in the HUI but not a smash. If this correction continues as a FLAT it is sending a very bullish message for the HUI. A FLAT type correction means there is very strong underlying support . This support drove the price right back up to near its high. This indicates that a collapse will most likely be avoided. A collapse like the one Homestake experienced in the last 30 year cycle.

However the price of the HUI is headed down and it won't be fun to watch if you are holding the shares. The bottom, if it is typical of a flat, will most likely go below the low of WAVE A. That was in the 160 area for the HUI. The monthly chart shows six months down then six months up. We now are facing a potential six months down to end the entire correction. We should have a bottom sometime this Summer. After the bottom I expect a period of reaccumulation to take place. This should take the form of a gradual rise with periodic shakeouts. This process should lead to an"orgiastic" type rise and explosion late in this decade. On the monthly chart you can see the five waves up starting in 2000, and wave A and B of the Flat type correction.
Notice the monthly technicals under the chart. They are not bullish.
Gold bullion may have a correction that lasts about 18 months as well. The problem with Gold bullion is that its correction just started. Once the HUI bottoms in Summer 2005 it should outperform gold bullion for about twelve months. Clearly if Gold bullion is still going down - but the HUI is leveling off and rising - the HUI will outperform bullion. Gold bullion is due for a bottom between Feb and July 2006. If you start trading Gold bullion from the long side when the HUI bottoms you may be subject to a frustating and unprofitable experience. My thought is to start trading the Gold shares from the long side first and wait to go long gold bullion. Wait until sometime in 2006. These time factors for bottoms for the HUI and gold bullion would be similar to the 30 year cycle. So far, many commodities are following this cycle.
 

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THE SCARY PART OF THE GOLD PRICE CURVE
by J. Kent Willis
AGAPI Financial, LLC
December 16, 2004


In these volatile gold price days, you need to learn to think like a trader, even if you are a small-time physical gold buyer holding on until the financial world implodes. I didn’t say “become” a trader. Learning how big traders think and play the game will at least help you make sense of the things beyond your control. Many gold speculators are either perma-bulls, perma-bears, cynics, bingers, purgers, dreamers, blasphemers, market shorts or market longs. A good trader is the right mix of all of these things; he never squawks about the price action on a single day basis.

In a long term up-trend with a tight day-to-day trading range, a good trader can and DOES take profit along the way. Such is an ideal market for a TRADER. Traders like an ESTABLISHED TREND with channels that are wide enough to make a decent profit but limited in surprises as reflected in the volatility. If the channel is too narrow, his transaction costs (if he intelligently hedges his upside/downside risks) are an appreciable percentage of the maximum profit he can squeeze out of the market. He can make more money if he flies without a parachute by not hedging, but a smart trader always packs his own before takeoff. In fact, total costs can exceed his maximum potential profit; who wants to play with that mess? A smart trader is scared of excess volatility. So he respects it. Unfortunately, we are approaching the scary part of the gold price curve where more and more amateurs (and even some less savvy pros) will be destroyed before they get properly scared. Most of the techniques that many currently trust in will be their undoing. One thing I have noticed in the past two or three years is the increase in amateurs who think they have graduated to the professional ranks after only one semester in the “real world”. I see these “players” all the time as I anonymously skulk the financial and gold bug chat rooms and news groups.

Most of us have seen all the discussion regarding bias and conflict of interest with regards to investment advisors and stockbrokerage recommendations. Clearly problems occurred in the past with the “always buy, never sell” recommendations. They never met a stock they didn’t like. “This stock is a GREAT buy at 20 bucks because it used to be 40 bucks!” Or, “this puppy is up 100%, don’t miss out, she’s got plenty of room to go up from here…think of all the money you lost not buying her a while back…” Of course we are too smart for that nonsense. We’ve been around. Only fools would be duped by such biased nonsense. Let’s see, to be a pro, and snatch all of that cash from the turkeys in line for plucking, all we have to do is:

Buy a subscription to the Wall Street Journal

For good measure, throw in a subscription to Investors Business Daily

Get a couple of guru newsletters

Pick up one or two books on stock trading at the library or bookstore

Turn on CNN and plop the TV right on the desk alongside the computer

Bookmark all those gold, silver, trading, and financial news websites

Ignore everything written by the web dudes we either don’t like or disagree with

Send off two box tops and $29 for one of those slick little TRADING secrets CD’s with real time data analysis and customized, versatile, buy & sell signal generators.

Now, piece by piece we acquire our battle tools, tucking them away one at a time in the small room across the hall from the bathroom. Now, with everything collected, we sneak down the hallway. Our eyes dart left, then right to see if anyone is watching. We quietly slip through the opening undetected by mere mortals. A brilliant blue-white flash of light is seen from the crack beneath the door. A New York minute later a towering figure appears in a burst of smoke and thunder. As the smoke clears we see an impressive figure with a brilliant red “T” emblazoned upon his chest. A trumpet blares deafeningly...TOOT TO DO TOOT TA TA TA DAHHHH. Look, it’s a bird-brain, it’s a plain-vanilla speculator…No, wait, it’s “TRADING MAN”! He loses his money faster than a speeding bullet, more hard-headed than a locomotive, and able to leap over tall obstacles with a single mouse-click….

Profitable trading has never been easy; along the scary part of the gold price curve it will only grow much more difficult. Here is simple question with an even simpler answer: Why do you think that many trading houses offer free software and how-to guides? After so much flak and negative publicity, increased regulation and scrutiny, not to mention tight trading ranges and long-time-sideways-market malaise, trading fee generated revenue has declined considerably. Volumes are up a bit now with the post-Bush bounce (higher than I expected) but doomed. If I give you a free guide, lovely little examples of how much you “could have made” using these techniques, and software that helps you make real time buy & sell decisions (along with opening a trading account, of course), several things will happen: The financial industry will get less flak and negative publicity about biased research and recommendations that have conflict of interest written all over them. I just gave you free tools incorporating standard TA principles and techniques that are in all the textbooks. No charge. No recommendation. The trader uses these tools to study whatever little market that tickles his fancy. We didn’t tell him what to buy. He told himself. IF YOU THINK YOU ARE SMARTER THAN YOU REALLY ARE, YOU WILL TRADE MORE THAN YOU SHOULD AND YOU WILL LOSE MORE THAN YOU SHOULD. THE TRADING HOUSE WILL RESTORE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE LOST REVENUE.

A smart trader always sells a good portion, often all of his position, into price strength so he won’t force the market lower by dumping his position. This is of no concern for a small-fry because he can’t do much damage. Except maybe in some of the ultra small cap gold junior/explorers where a single buy/sell trade of any meaningful size will significantly goose or kill the price. It’s OK that he doesn’t hold for the long term like many smaller mom and pop “retail” investors who should do just that. He will ride the upward price slope and sell at a profit even only a few days or weeks after he enters. He couldn’t care less what gold will do next year; he cares if he makes money this week or this month after subtracting the entry fees required to intelligently support his position in light of the existing risks. He will POCKET his profit if he isn’t greedy rather than fade it into the next trade. MANY PROFESSIONAL TRADERS ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO ARE NOT PART OF ANY COLLECTIVE SUPRESSION SCHEME ARE DOING THIS WITH GOLD RIGHT NOW. The net effect of many good size wallets playing the same game does change the dynamics, often adversely for the small investor who is long bullion and can’t wait until all the nefarious “manipulators” get their comeuppance.

A smart trader will then redeploy his working capital again only when the time is right. He might be back in tomorrow; it may be weeks or months. They don’t get up and go to work in 8-10 hour slices like ordinary working stiffs thinking: “I gotta make some money today”. The amateur pattern, day and “prop” traders think they have to click “buy” in the morning and click “sell in the evening” everyday. You DON’T. The fact that there is good physical buying from “true believers’ is a blessing; it always sets the floor and minimizes the downside. You guys step in on price dips (and you should) and guarantee he won’t get in too much trouble on the downside. You “only go long” guys subsidize your enemies.

A smart trader will study carefully his next market entry point and his target of choice, be it gold stocks, actual delivered bullion, or by selling/writing or buying call/put options, etc. Smart traders use the income from the silly, soon-to-expire-worthless options they sold to YOU in order to cover the cost of hedging their bets. YOU pay for their parachute. Again, in the scary part of the gold price curve, this will get geometrically more dangerous. He may hedge his gold position with a leveraged proportion play in the FOREX market either short/long US dollars. The almost perfect inverse correlation between gold and the US dollar makes it ideal for using it as a hedge; it’s a trader’s dream. The “experts” who think that gold is just a commodity that rises or falls with the post-monsoon third world harvest should pay attention here: THIS ALMOST PERFECT INVERSE CORRELATION CAN ONLY EXIST IF GOLD IS A CURRENCY AND NOT MERELY A COMMODITY.

Right now, and for the past few months, some BIG players who love the all you can eat smorgasbord of casino playthings we call the financial markets are losing their interest in playing the straight FOREX markets. These boys gobble up “goodies” in 10 million dollar chunks the same way you buy 10 more shares of Newmont. They have entered the COMEX sandbox. The COMEX gold market was almost always settled for dollars and not metal at expiration or exercise option. Many of the big boys who formerly settled in cash as winners on their side of the long bet are standing for delivery at the contract buy price. They don’t necessarily have to take the metal off the floor. It can stay in COMEX vaults and be “theirs” after payment. They don’t care about the “traditional” nature of the candy store they are in; they are using the COMEX to buy metal and take possession. It is a simple way to buy huge chunks of gold at essentially single price points without chasing the price higher. The whole pile has to be delivered to the winning (buying) longs at the single contract price agreed upon weeks or months earlier. Most of the physical purchase action used to occur on the LME. Not anymore. Do not underestimate the significance of this, which is good for those long gold and intelligently selected gold shares. Too much of this buying without “offsetting” paper shorts (which will eventually become ineffective for price suppression) will literally cause this market to IMPLODE. The COMEX will have to exploit all of the “force majeure” loopholes in their bylaws and contracts with rule and margin changes; maybe even halt or shut down this paper market. I assure you that this is very likely if standing for delivery increases and continues. When the dollar was worth something, taking cash dollars out at COMEX contract settlement was convenient, simple, routine and standard procedure. With US dollars becoming “more worthless” at the present, demanding and taking real gold at the agreed price is becoming the routine for some players. It simply CAN NOT continue for very long along the scary part of the gold price curve.

Along the scary part of the gold price curve you really only need a few things. What you can get, largely for free, is the wisdom of a few great warriors who have many gold and silver medals pinned to their bare chests. You know who they are: Sinclair, Russell, McKenzie, Norcini, Puplava, Wallenwein, Bond, etc. Individually they have their disagreements, but digested together they are an encyclopedia of market WISDOM. But the one thing you can’t buy is the most important: THE HEART OF A WARRIOR. Those who run for the hills every time gold takes a dip have no such heart. The finest suit of armor is worthless with Don Knotts inside. Decide what you believe about the future of gold, and put your money where your head, heart and mouth are. If you believe the curve is turning down and her run is done, short the stink out of it. Be a man and step up to the plate. If you believe the curve is turning up, buy real gold bullion coins, hold them safely in your own possession and wait. Either way, only warriors die bravely in battle and are spoken of fondly by their descendants. The rest die of boring old age, far from the battle and are forgotten before they turn cold in the boxcar of the long dirt nap. The cheapest thing you can buy is a full-length mirror. Take a peek. Do you think you run with the big dogs, or are you still eating puppy chow? To trade the scary part of the gold curve you need ice water in your veins, an absolute conviction in your analysis regarding future market behavior and self-discipline that would shame a Ninja master.
 

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