Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate SNS Reeal in diretta: storia di un esproprio - Notizie, informazioni e commenti

[tommy271]

e perché?

... perchè ci sono più soldi spendere .

 

[Tobia]

... perchè ci sono più soldi spendere .

 

[fenox]

... perchè ci sono più soldi spendere .

è una correlazione molto relativa

 

[Topgun1976]

SNSSNS 6.625 05/18 6.50/8.00 XS0363514893 41M LT2 SNS BANK NEDERLAND
SNSSNS 6.250 10/20 6.50/8.00 XS0552743048 262M LT2 SNS BANK NV

SNSSNS 6.258 P-17 2.00/3.50 XS0310904155 250M T1 SNS REAAL GROEP NV
SNSSNS 11.25 P-19 2.00/3.50 XS0468954523 320M T1 SNS BANK NV

Guaranteed delivery through Euroclear or other clearing system. As of
1 February 2013, SNS subordinated bond ISIN codes no longer represent the
relevant subordinated bond but only represent the entitlement to a
possible compensation by the Dutch State, which may be an amount equal
to zero ("SNS ISINs"). All trades on SNS ISINs are traded flat of accrued.
In respect of any trades on SNS ISINS, all rights and distributions from
and including trade date shall pass to buyer regardless of whether the
Euroclear record date reflects seller as owner of such SNS ISINs following
the relevant trade date.
If the Dutch State or the relevant SNS estate or entity sets a claims
registry date prior to the relevant trade date/settlement date, the fall back
shall be that any subpart/turnover agreement as well as any rights and
distributions arising from the claim attached to the SNS ISINs shall pass to
buyer.

 

[drbs315]

SNSSNS 6.625 05/18 6.50/8.00 XS0363514893 41M LT2 SNS BANK NEDERLAND
SNSSNS 6.250 10/20 6.50/8.00 XS0552743048 262M LT2 SNS BANK NV

SNSSNS 6.258 P-17 2.00/3.50 XS0310904155 250M T1 SNS REAAL GROEP NV
SNSSNS 11.25 P-19 2.00/3.50 XS0468954523 320M T1 SNS BANK NV

Guaranteed delivery through Euroclear or other clearing system. As of
1 February 2013, SNS subordinated bond ISIN codes no longer represent the
relevant subordinated bond but only represent the entitlement to a
possible compensation by the Dutch State, which may be an amount equal
to zero ("SNS ISINs"). All trades on SNS ISINs are traded flat of accrued.
In respect of any trades on SNS ISINS, all rights and distributions from
and including trade date shall pass to buyer regardless of whether the
Euroclear record date reflects seller as owner of such SNS ISINs following
the relevant trade date.
If the Dutch State or the relevant SNS estate or entity sets a claims
registry date prior to the relevant trade date/settlement date, the fall back
shall be that any subpart/turnover agreement as well as any rights and
distributions arising from the claim attached to the SNS ISINs shall pass to
buyer.

Chiusa direi, a questo punto, la questione della data valuta.

 

[belindo]

Chiusa direi, a questo punto, la questione della data valuta.

In pratica i contratti fatti i 3 giorni prima sono validi giusto?

 

[ferdo]

...

Guaranteed delivery through Euroclear or other clearing system. As of
1 February 2013, SNS subordinated bond ISIN codes no longer represent the
relevant subordinated bond but only represent the entitlement to a
possible compensation by the Dutch State, which may be an amount equal
to zero ("SNS ISINs"). All trades on SNS ISINs are traded flat of accrued.
In respect of any trades on SNS ISINS, all rights and distributions from
and including trade date shall pass to buyer regardless of whether the
Euroclear record date reflects seller as owner of such SNS ISINs following
the relevant trade date.
If the Dutch State or the relevant SNS estate or entity sets a claims
registry date prior to the relevant trade date/settlement date, the fall back
shall be that any subpart/turnover agreement as well as any rights and
distributions arising from the claim attached to the SNS ISINs shall pass to
buyer.

sono un po' basito dal punto di vista di principio:
se ti espropriano un bene, come si può cedere lo stesso?!?!
mi sembra assurdo affermare "bene" = "diritto di risarcimento"

ma occorre essere pragmatici ... and live in the jungle

 

[Topgun1976]

sono un po' basito dal punto di vista di principio:
se ti espropriano un bene, come si può cedere lo stesso?!?!
mi sembra assurdo affermare "bene" = "diritto di risarcimento"

ma occorre essere pragmatici ... and live in the jungle

Adesso è un diritto alla compensazione,puoi vendere e comprare

 

[belindo]

Adesso è un diritto alla compensazione,puoi vendere e comprare

Quindi TOP confermi che anche chi li ha comprati giovedi hanno la bega?

 

[Cat XL]

Ricordatevi di valutare la causa di risarcimento danni in Italia...

Ma cosa puoi ottenere in Italia? Anche se hai un esito positivo della causa su chi ti puoi rivalere per avere i soldi?