Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate SNS Reeal in diretta: storia di un esproprio - Notizie, informazioni e commenti

[eporedia]

semplicemente "espropriazione", non è seminare panico!
diranno che altrimenti c'era la bancarotta e daranno una manciata di euro

mia idea ovvio

Beh...facciano quello che vogliono! Si prenderanno una VALANGA DI CAUSE!!!

 

[gionmorg]

SNS REAAL : Resignation announcement Ronald Latenstein, Ference Lamp and Rob Zwartendijk at SNS REAAL
02/01/2013| 03:04am US/Eastern
SNS REAAL NV announces that its Executive Board members Messrs Ronald Latenstein, CEO, and Ference Lamp, CFRO, and Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Mr Rob Zwartendijk, resign from their respective positions. Reason for this decision is that they do not want to and cannot take responsibility for the nationalisation scenario.

In the past few years, Messrs Latenstein and Lamp, together with the organisation and supported by the Supervisory Board, have worked very hard to resolve the issue of the Group's property finance division. In this process, they consciously worked towards a private solution, because they believe that, from the organisation's social position, this is the appropriate route. They have done everything in their power to achieve this. They have thus shown their responsibility to safeguard the future of the concern and the interests of the stakeholders. However, the Ministry of Finance has made another choice. The persons in question do not advocate the chosen solution, but respect the choice of the Ministry of Finance. They decided to resign from their positions of their own accord without receiving severance pay and remain available for an orderly transfer.

SNS REAAL regrets the departure of the persons in question, but respects their choice. SNS REAAL is greatly indebted to them for their tireless efforts and expertise with which they served the organisation in recent years. Under their management, a strategic repositioning and social renewal of the organisation was effected. Moreover, they leave behind healthy core activities. Mr Latenstein was CEO and Chairman of the Executive Board of SNS REAAL since 2009. From 2003 to 2009, he was CFO of the organisation. Mr Lamp was CFRO and member of the Executive Board since 2009. Mr Zwartendijk was Chairman of the Supervisory Board of SNS REAAL NV since 2009.

 

[drbs315]

A me è andata bene, alla fine avevo appena 2k reali sulla 155, ma mi rendo conto che è stata solo fortuna, esposto come sono sulle senior, fosse stato per loro probabilmente gli olandesi avrebbero haircuttato pesantemente anche quelle - qcn li avrà convinti a non farlo.

Bisogna imparare, soprattutto l'aria che tira sui sub bancari europei pare essere irish style, dunque attenzione alle situazioni "difficili"...

 

[fabriziof]

adesso chiuderà anche binck,campava sul nostro trading sns

 

[Cat XL]

The Minister of Finance, having consulted De Nederlandsche Bank and having reached agreement with the Prime Minister, has decreed, pursuant to Sections 6:2 and 6:4 of the Financial Supervision Act (Wet op het financieel toezicht), the expropriation of:

all issued shares in the capital of SNS REAAL NV;
all Stichting Beheer SNS REAAL Core Tier 1 capital securities issued by SNS REAAL NV;
all issued shares in the capital of SNS Bank NV held by others than SNS REAAL NV or its group companies;
all subordinated bonds of SNS REAAL NV and SNS Bank NV;
all subordinated private liabilities of SNS REAAL NV and SNS Bank NV.
All shares, Stichting Beheer SNS REAAL Core Tier 1 capital securities, and subordinated bonds are expropriated for the benefit of the State of the Netherlands. The expropriation of the subordinated private liabilities is effected by the expropriation of the corresponding liabilities of SNS REAAL and SNS Bank for the benefit of Stichting Afwikkeling Onderhandse Schulden SNS REAAL, established at Utrecht.

The expropriation decree shall take effect today, February 1, 2013 at 08:30 hours. At that moment, title to the expropriated securities and liabilities will by operation of law transfer to the State of the Netherlands and the Stichting Afwikkeling Onderhandse Schulden SNS REAAL, respectively. As from such time, the original entitled parties will no longer be able to dispose of the expropriated securities or liabilities.

The expropriation was made necessary by the extreme situation SNS Bank and SNS REAAL found themselves in and the serious and immediate threat posed by that situation to the stability of the financial system.

For the full text (in Dutch) of the expropriation decree, which describes the expropriated securities and liabilities in greater detail, please refer to the website of the Ministry of Finance, where the expropriation decree is set out in full.

The expropriation decree also informs interested parties as to how they may file objections against the decree.

For information purposes an English translation of the relevant parts of the expropriation decree (including a more detailed description of the expropriated securities and liabilities) is available.

Documents and publications
Decree by the Minister of Finance regarding the expropriation of securities and capital components of SNS REAAL NV and SNS Bank NV
Decree by the Minister of Finance of February 1, 2013 regarding the expropriation of securities and capital components of SNS ...

Decree | 01-02-2013 | FIN

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Espropiazione vuo dire che se si prendono i titoli. Dovrebbero essere piu' chiari. Tagliano a 0 il nominale.

 

[nik.sala]

che si fa signori ???
Son disperato...

 

[pier_pat]

scusate, mi rendo conto che è solo una goccia nel mare magnum di m***a nel quale siamo finiti ma nella espropriazione è coinvolta anche srlev in quanto controllata o solo sns bank e sns reaal? Dal comunicato io non lo capisco...

 

[bosmeld]

che si fa signori ???
Son disperato...

amico mio io in pochi giorni praticamente mi sono perso dalla tasca un gratta e vinci (VINCENTE)


che dovrei dire? o mi ..... o reggo.


(fortuna poi che di sns non ne ho prese tante...., è seat a me che mi ha maciullato)

ho scelto di reggere.


vediamo il volgere degli eventi, ma penso che una causa sia unica soluzione

 

[fabriziof]

che si fa signori ???
Son disperato...

stavolta non c'è recovery abbiam perso tutto.io 35k, perlomeno son contento di aver venduto ieri 25k della 2020.

 

[gionmorg]

DISCLOSURE EXPROPRIATION SNS REAAL and SNS Bank

Newsflash | 02/01/2013

The Minister of Finance announces:

The Minister of Finance, after consultation with the Dutch Central Bank and in accordance with the Prime Minister, pursuant to Articles 6:2 and 6:4 of the Act on Financial Supervision decided to expropriate:

- All the issued shares in the capital of SNS REAAL NV;

- All issued by SNS REAAL NV Stichting Beheer SNS REAAL Core Tier 1 capital;

- All the issued shares in the capital of SNS Bank NV are held by persons other than SNS REAAL NV or its subsidiaries;

- All subordinated bonds of SNS REAAL and SNS Bank NV;

- All subordinated private debts of SNS REAAL and SNS Bank NV.

All shares, Stichting Beheer SNS REAAL Core Tier 1 capital securities and subordinated bonds are expropriated in the name of the State of the Netherlands. The expropriation of the subordinated debt carried by private expropriation of those debts corresponding passive assets of SNS REAAL and SNS Bank in the name of the Foundation Settlement Private Debts SNS REAAL, located in Utrecht.

The decision on expropriation occurs today, 1 February 2013, at 08:30 pm in operation. The expropriated securities and assets go at that time are automatically transferred to the State of the Netherlands, or the Catholic Private Debt Settlement SNS REAAL. The original owners could from that time no more about the effects expropriated assets and disposal.

The expropriation has proved necessary because of the desperate situation in which SNS Bank and SNS REAAL had come to be and serious and immediate danger of this situation went to the stability of the financial system.

For the full text of the decision on expropriation, where the expropriated assets and effects are described in more detail, please refer to the website of the Ministry of Finance, where the full text of the expropriation ¬ tion decision can be consulted.

The expropriation decision also mentions how stakeholders against the decision may emerge.