Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Tutto quello che avreste sempre voluto sapere sulle obbligazioni perpetue... - Cap. 1 (8 lettori)
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sembra che HSH riprenda a distribuire dividendi e pagare utili per l'esercizio 2012 (in pagamento nel 2013). L'anno anche scritto in qualche trimestrale. Vedremo...
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Forumer storico
A quanto sei entrato Top?
Su ariva c'è uno spread 30-50
di primo mattino iw oggi dava bid/ask operativi 29/34
Topgun1976
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A quanto sei entrato Top?
Su ariva c'è uno spread 30-50
34 ,Cmq Ieri parlavano di Offerta entro Natale,Su Aib se il Governo sale al 98 può imporre haircut pesanti ,ma non è cosi scontato.
Su Boi si parla di Base Volontaria,e ci mancherebbe altrimenti farebbero prima a nazionalizzarsi e via
Ricordo che Boi ha il fatturato al 50% in Uk ,quindi Anche la Regina ha i suoi interessi che continui a essere solvibile
Topgun1976
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Preso di Là,Dall'Amico Tommy
DUBLIN (Reuters) - Bondholders in Allied Irish Banks and Bank of Ireland are trying to cap any losses they could face from a government plan to make them shoulder some of the cost of overhauling the country's banks.
Ireland has ruled out forcing holders of bank senior debt to take a hit as part of an 85 billion euro ($113.5 billion) IMF/EU bailout but the government signaled last month that the sort of restructuring of subordinated bank debt already being implemented by nationalized lender Anglo Irish Bank could be replicated across the sector.
A group of senior and subordinate bondholders in AIB and Bank of Ireland held a conference call last Friday to discuss their options, two sources familiar with the talks told Reuters on Tuesday.
"The government of Ireland came (up) with a really coercive offer (on Anglo Irish). They (investors) got together (because) they didn't want to replicate Anglo Irish," said one of the sources involved in the talks and who declined to be named.
"They want to approach authorities and financial management with a proposal that is market-friendly and collaborative as opposed to Anglo Irish which was crazy coercive," he said.
The source could not say how much debt the investors held but said they were major institutional players, including hedge funds and insurance companies, in London and New York.
Anglo Irish, nationalized last year due to a property crash and several loan and deposit scandals, has offered to exchange some 1.6 billion euros of subordinated debt at a discount of 20 cents per euro.
The bank, the poster child for Ireland's financial crisis, has said it would force bondholders that don't take up the offer to accept just 1 cent per 1,000 euros to redeem their floating notes due 2014, 2016 and 2017.
"SCORCHED EARTH POLICY"
London's Daily Telegraph had reported on Monday that Allied Irish's bondholders were preparing to sue the Irish government over losses they expect to be forced to take, allegations both sources denied to Reuters.
"(The story) was fundamentally misleading. We won't be crazy by suing first and then talking later," said the first source, adding that the parties were trying to find "a way between the two extremes" -- meaning between the government's measure with Anglo Irish Bank and seeking lawsuits.
Ireland's current coalition government is likely to be replaced by the center-right Fine Gael party and center-left Labour party in an election early next year.
Fine Gael wants to force senior bondholders in Anglo Irish to take a hit on their investments once the lender is wound down and wants junior bondholders at AIB to take deep discounts before selling the bank to a large, foreign bank.
Fine Gael wants Bank of Ireland to renegotiate its liabilities with bondholders on a voluntary basis.
A second source who was a representative of an institutional group present on Friday's conference call said the discussion was focused on "how we can sit down with the government and look at ways of recapitalizing these banks, come up with a viable plan to keep capital markets open to institutions and for credit to remain flowing to the Irish economy."
DUBLIN (Reuters) - Bondholders in Allied Irish Banks and Bank of Ireland are trying to cap any losses they could face from a government plan to make them shoulder some of the cost of overhauling the country's banks.
Ireland has ruled out forcing holders of bank senior debt to take a hit as part of an 85 billion euro ($113.5 billion) IMF/EU bailout but the government signaled last month that the sort of restructuring of subordinated bank debt already being implemented by nationalized lender Anglo Irish Bank could be replicated across the sector.
A group of senior and subordinate bondholders in AIB and Bank of Ireland held a conference call last Friday to discuss their options, two sources familiar with the talks told Reuters on Tuesday.
"The government of Ireland came (up) with a really coercive offer (on Anglo Irish). They (investors) got together (because) they didn't want to replicate Anglo Irish," said one of the sources involved in the talks and who declined to be named.
"They want to approach authorities and financial management with a proposal that is market-friendly and collaborative as opposed to Anglo Irish which was crazy coercive," he said.
The source could not say how much debt the investors held but said they were major institutional players, including hedge funds and insurance companies, in London and New York.
Anglo Irish, nationalized last year due to a property crash and several loan and deposit scandals, has offered to exchange some 1.6 billion euros of subordinated debt at a discount of 20 cents per euro.
The bank, the poster child for Ireland's financial crisis, has said it would force bondholders that don't take up the offer to accept just 1 cent per 1,000 euros to redeem their floating notes due 2014, 2016 and 2017.
"SCORCHED EARTH POLICY"
London's Daily Telegraph had reported on Monday that Allied Irish's bondholders were preparing to sue the Irish government over losses they expect to be forced to take, allegations both sources denied to Reuters.
"(The story) was fundamentally misleading. We won't be crazy by suing first and then talking later," said the first source, adding that the parties were trying to find "a way between the two extremes" -- meaning between the government's measure with Anglo Irish Bank and seeking lawsuits.
Ireland's current coalition government is likely to be replaced by the center-right Fine Gael party and center-left Labour party in an election early next year.
Fine Gael wants to force senior bondholders in Anglo Irish to take a hit on their investments once the lender is wound down and wants junior bondholders at AIB to take deep discounts before selling the bank to a large, foreign bank.
Fine Gael wants Bank of Ireland to renegotiate its liabilities with bondholders on a voluntary basis.
A second source who was a representative of an institutional group present on Friday's conference call said the discussion was focused on "how we can sit down with the government and look at ways of recapitalizing these banks, come up with a viable plan to keep capital markets open to institutions and for credit to remain flowing to the Irish economy."
Topgun1976
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Intanto Boi vicina ai 3euro,era a 1,60 pochi giorni fà..allucinante
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Bank of Ireland offre scambio titoli Lower Tier 2 fino a 1,5 mld
Reuters - 08/12/2010 16:37:13
DUBLINO, 8 dicembre (Reuters) - Bank of Ireland ha annunciato un'offerta di scambio di titoli Lower Tier 2 fino a 1,5 miliardi di euro.
In cambio dei titoli, che hanno un valore nominale di circa 3,1 miliardi di euro, gli investitori riceveranno nuovi bond senior a 13 mesi garantiti dal governo.
Bank of Ireland sottolinea che i titoli scambiano notevolmente a sconto rispetto ai prezzi di emissione.
In cambio dei titoli, che hanno un valore nominale di circa 3,1 miliardi di euro, gli investitori riceveranno nuovi bond senior a 13 mesi garantiti dal governo.
Bank of Ireland sottolinea che i titoli scambiano notevolmente a sconto rispetto ai prezzi di emissione.
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ha fatto bene a sottolinearlo...Bank of Ireland offre scambio titoli Lower Tier 2 fino a 1,5 mldReuters - 08/12/2010 16:37:13DUBLINO, 8 dicembre (Reuters) - Bank of Ireland ha annunciato un'offerta di scambio di titoli Lower Tier 2 fino a 1,5 miliardi di euro.
In cambio dei titoli, che hanno un valore nominale di circa 3,1 miliardi di euro, gli investitori riceveranno nuovi bond senior a 13 mesi garantiti dal governo.
Bank of Ireland sottolinea che i titoli scambiano notevolmente a sconto rispetto ai prezzi di emissione.
Topgun1976
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ha fatto bene a sottolinearlo...
Lt2 in Media prezzo sui 50-56 i P a Quanto li voglionono 30?
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