Titoli di Stato paesi-emergenti VENEZUELA e Petroleos de Venezuela - Cap. 2 (22 lettori)

Llukas

Frangar non Flectar
Questo lo dicono loro.

Girano tante leggende metropolitane sulla vicenda ... da un russo che paga al posto loro, a Clearstream che blocca, a Eurostream con il sistema informatico bloccato.

eh no, fermati un attimo. su alcune non l'hanno detto loro. non sono leggende. elecar qualcuno le ha pure ricevute. e che i soldi della pdvsa 27 sono bloccati non l'hanno detto loro. adesso dimmi che senso ha credere che hanno fatto quelli ma hanno mentito sugli altri dai.
 

tommy271

Forumer storico
eh no, fermati un attimo. su alcune non l'hanno detto loro. non sono leggende. elecar qualcuno le ha pure ricevute. e che i soldi della pdvsa 27 sono bloccati non l'hanno detto loro. adesso dimmi che senso ha credere che hanno fatto quelli ma hanno mentito sugli altri dai.

Non parlavo di Elecar, ma di PDVSA e Soberanos.
A me risulta pagata la sola PDVSA 37 ad ottobre.
 

Llukas

Frangar non Flectar
Non parlavo di Elecar, ma di PDVSA e Soberanos.
A me risulta pagata la sola PDVSA 37 ad ottobre.

che la pdvsa 27 è bloccata nelle depositarie mica l'ha detto solo Maduro. lo hanno ammesso anche loro stesse.
ora vorrei sapere che senso possa avere per uno stato alla "canna del gas" pagare 2 mld di rimborsi, continuare a pagare alcune cedole e poi fare hard default. cioè altro che tonti, ma neanche la banda bassotti farebbe ste cose!
 

carib

rerum cognoscere causas
§ Two Venezuela bonds (2023 and 2028) will see the grace periods on due coupon payments expire this week. In total, the nation and PDVSA owe USD 1.55bn in late coupons, of which USD 798mn correspond to expired grace periods (including PDVSA 2017N, which expires today) and the remainder to payments still in grace period. This Thursday, the grace periods on coupon payments for USD 182.3mn will expire.

§ The parallel exchange rate depreciated strongly, reaching VEF 103,024 on Friday. It has lost 20% of its value during the last week and 60% over the last month. M2 rose by 52% over the past four weeks, driven by the financing of payment of year-end bonuses.
 

Ventodivino

מגן ולא יראה
Financial Times




Demise of Mugabe shows how Maduro’s rule might end

Zimbabwe offers lessons to Venezuela, another rich land betrayed by corrupt leaders JOHN PAUL RATHBONE Add to myFT Read next fastFT Bitcoin sets another record high as crypto fever reaches Venezuela Nicolás Maduro, Venezuela's president, recognised the parallels with Zimbabwe when he referred to the African nation as a 'brother country' © Reuters Share on Twitter (opens new window) Share on Facebook (opens new window) Share on LinkedIn (opens new window) Save Save to myFT John Paul Rathbone in Mexico City 5 HOURS AGO 2 From Brazilian agricultural expertise to more general examples about military juntas, Latin America has often provided useful lessons for Africa. Lately, though, the instruction is flowing the other way, at least when it comes to Venezuela. Indeed, the overthrow of Robert Mugabe in Harare may show how the dictatorship of Nicolás Maduro in Caracas might end one day. The similarities are legion, running from the macroeconomic to the marital. Even Mr Maduro tacitly recognised the parallels when he condemned last month’s coup in Zimbabwe, “this brother country”. Zimbabwe’s Zanu-PF finds its corollary in Venezuela’s Socialist party. Both regimes are formally democratic but military-backed and authoritarian. Both survived economic isolation longer than expected, sat out mass civilian protests and out-manoeuvred opposition parties. Both regimes also portrayed themselves as bulwarks against imperialism, currying favour with China and Russia, while elites robbed the country. Even their first ladies have much in common. The vindictive “Gucci Grace” Mugabe has her counterpart in the Machiavellian Cilia Flores, or Venezuela’s “first combatant” as this ambitious and nepotistic politician prefers to be known. But change in Zimbabwe also suggests how Mr Maduro’s rule could end. First is the importance of losing superpower support. China strenuously denied any role in Mr Mugabe’s demise. But as one intelligence report from his spies, reviewed by Reuters, said on October 30: “China and Russia are after change . . . They are sick and tired of Mugabe’s leadership.” The same could happen in Venezuela. China has a strategic interest in Venezuela’s vast energy reserves, but only if they are pumped out of the ground. Instead, output is shrinking fast. This supports energy prices and, as the world’s largest energy importer, it runs counter to China’s geo-economic interests. Beijing, which is owed $20bn by Venezuela, has shown itself unwilling to bail out Caracas much more. Second, is the key role of insiders. In Zimbabwe, the impetus for transition came from within the corridors of power, rather than from the opposition or the streets. Mr Maduro is sensitive to such dangers. That is why he purged potential rivals last week, including the country’s ambassador to the UN, and placed generals in top positions at PDVSA, the state oil company. Having a major general, with no energy experience, run PDVSA is unlikely to improve the struggling company — just as having generals control the economy has done nothing to stop hyperinflation. It also sends a bad message to foreign partners. But by keeping the army happy, Mr Maduro cemented political control and headed off potential schisms — at least for a while. So-called “dialogue” with the opposition, as happened this weekend, buys further time. Recommended The Big Read: Venezuela debt — US, Russia and China play for high stakes Exodus the only answer for thousands of Venezuelans Zimbabwe’s neighbours take lessons from ‘soft coup’ Third, if the impetus for transition comes from within the regime, ousted figures also need a safe exit, as that makes the changeover quicker and less violent. Mr Mugabe reportedly secured a $10m payout as part of the transition deal, while corrupt insiders secured a three-month amnesty to return some of their stolen loot. Doing the same in Venezuela may seem morally repugnant, given human rights abuses and the estimated $300bn that has been stolen. It may also be a necessary quid pro quo for change. There is always a danger of over-generalising from the particular. Each country has its own dynamics. Venezuela is more squarely in US sights than Zimbabwe ever was. Nor does Mr Maduro enjoy the same stature that Mr Mugabe once did, as a former liberation fighter. But the parallels seem clear, not least the fourth lesson, the most sobering of all. The Zanu-PF under Mr Mugabe reigned for 37 years. In Venezuela, “chavismo” has ruled for just 17. Although near bankrupt, on the verge of declared default and with a population almost literally starving, it could last much longer yet.
 

Keller Zabel

Il denaro non è la realtà, sembra ma non lo è.
Passano i giorni senza alcuna notizia degna di nota. I cds li hanno pagati? clearstream ha sbloccato quello che doveva sbloccare? La ristrutturazione ha un calendario? I BH hanno raggiunto il 25% per agire o attendono fiduciosi i pagamenti? Trump dopo il russiagate qualcuno lo manda a fan...? Troppe domande senza risposte e il mercato prezza questo, e secondo me in una situazione così particolare è difficile non innervosirsi o sputare qualsiasi sentenza. Davvero situazione complicata. L'unica cosa che possiamo fare in my opinion e tentare di riassumere in un calendario le date future importanti, ammesso che si riescano ad intuire.
 

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