Bund e TBond: trichechi sulla Maginot VM 180 anni

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una comunicazione e una proposta:

siccome onlywave non è piu buono nemmeno come indicatore contrarian e quindi non serve più al forum ed è solo di disturbo propongo la prossima volta che spamma lo stesso post a raffica per tutto il forum di bollinarlo di rosso
 
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Non credo ai miei occhi ... poco fa ... Nasdaq - 3 % ... ora tutti indici positivi

di 1 ... 2 .... punti ...

che è successo ... ? C'è stato altro taglio .....?????




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Andrea 53 ha scritto:
aggiunto un altro bund a 116.97 ed ora basta buona notte a tutti :up:

si no bbuono guaglione.
fatto bbuono.
Oggi e ieri stessa idea per molte volte...
poi ingresso poi uscita poi ingresso poi spike dell'azionario e uscita dal bund..
ad averci bbuoni margini e spalle grosse c'era da compranne na camionata di bbbund e rimanerci piantati per na settimana.
 
carino stasera il commento di chiusra di yahoo finance, da leggere:

NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street bounced around in extremely volatile trading Wednesday, as bargain hunters entered the market and lifted stocks up from their steep losses. The Dow Jones industrials shot up nearly 250 points in late trading after falling more than 320 earlier.

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Volatility has become a hallmark of Wall Street's performance in recent months, and there's no sign of it letting up.

"Volatility is certainly the norm now and not the exception," said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at Jefferies & Co. "We have had 14 trading days so far this year and only two of them have been without a triple-digit swing. Three of those days have had 300-point swings."

The market could, however, be seeing a massive, positive shift, said Steve Goldman, chief market strategist at Weeden & Co.

"The early leaders in a market recovery tend to be banks, REITs (real estate investment trusts) and homebuilders as these are the groups that typically would benefit first from a turnaround. And those have been the market leaders this week," Goldman said. "What has happened is the Fed is flooding the system with liquidity and eventually we should see some traction in the economy. And stocks tend to respond first."

In afternoon trading, the Dow was up 241.92, or 2.02 percent, at 12,213.11 after having been down 323.29 in earlier trading.

Broader stock indicators also turned positive. The Standard & Poor's 500 index rose 25.85, or 1.97 percent, to 1,336.35, and the Nasdaq composite index rose 25.86, or 1.13 percent, to 2,318.13.

Advancing issues were ahead of decliners by about 3 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange.

At this point, it is unclear whether the stock market is close to a bear market or bottoming out before a recovery.

Todd Salamone, vice president of research at Schaeffer's Investment Research in Cincinnati, noted that trading patterns this month in the stock market -- on pace to log its worst January ever -- have shown few confident buyers.

"You continue to see a handful of buyers come in, but they're quickly overwhelmed by the sellers," Salamone said.

Still, buying, like selling, can feed on itself and investors want to be sure they don't miss out on a rally. What needs to be seen is how easily these gains can be knocked down again.

Bond prices, like stocks, were volatile Wednesday. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, fell in earlier trading but then recovered to 3.41 percent, the same as late Tuesday.

The dollar was mixed against other major currencies, while gold prices fell.

Crude oil fell more than $2 to dip below $87 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Lower oil prices help debt-burdened, cash-strapped consumers, but they dampen oil company profits. Chevron Corp., ConocoPhillips and ExxonMobil Corp. shares fell sharply Wednesday.

AP Business Writer Leslie Wines and Tim Paradis in New York contributed to this report.
 
e bravo andrea con le odax call 6600, non immagino cosa siano capaci di fare domani....anche se dentro cè tanta tanta vola vero FFFFF4FFFFF :)
 
il minirussell è diventato pauroso, non sarebbe male perchè non è tipo scheggia impazzita anzi, se prende una direzione la tiene e anche bene, ma il problema è che si fa 400 tick di escursione (1 tick sono 10$) mentre fino a pochi mesi fa stava sui 40/50 tick al giorno e ne faceva 100 proprio se si esagerava! se ti azzardi a non stoppare ti stritola letteralmente :eek:
 
un po di ifnte varie ma una seduta di recupero dai minimi significativa successiva a pesanti sedute ribassiste solitamente sottolinea un minimo almeno di breve importante e la possibilità di un rally (controtrend o alktro lo vedremo) di qualche settimana dove però le cartucce vengono sparate quasi sempre nelle prime sedute.
 
masgui ha scritto:
e bravo andrea con le odax call 6600, non immagino cosa siano capaci di fare domani....anche se dentro cè tanta tanta vola vero FFFFF4FFFFF :)

anche troppa


gli merkans han giocato il rimbalz
un pò troppo bello per essere vero
tutti a ricoprire gli short??

boh vedrem
 
f4f ha scritto:
anche troppa


gli merkans han giocato il rimbalz
un pò troppo bello per essere vero
tutti a ricoprire gli short??

boh vedrem

e poi non pensi che non ci sia uno scontro in atto... hanno aspettato gli europei a nanna per fare il rally e prima hanno fatto scendere con loro chiusi.... bluff pazzesco!

Commento chiave dello strategist di MS europa che ha beccato i turning points del 2007:

We don’t want to kick off some kind of cult of the outsized ego - but it is our duty to alert readers to the fact that Teun Draaisma, head of Morgan Stanley’s European equity strategy team, has a new stance.

If you’re not familiar with Draaisma, you can read about him in Wednesday’s People column in the FT. The long and short of it is that Morgan Stanley’s man told his clients to keep buying, then sell, buy again and sell at the appropriate times last year.

The latest call is that, despite highly uncertain fundamentals, the 20 per cent drop in MSCI Europe from the peak last June is enough for now. With sentiment bearish and valuations attractive, they’re moving into equities, on a tactical three to six months basis.

The move, says Draaisma, is based on three factors:

1) Sentiment is at extremes. As we wrote on January 21, a range of sentiment measures is at or close to all-time bearishness, including AAII survey, and put/call ratios.
2) Valuations at recession levels. Our Fundamentals, Capitulation and CVI indicators all say buy now. Our CVI closed on 21st January at -1.2 and fell as low as -1.85 in early trading on the 22nd, close to the -2 crisis ‘must buy’ level. Our combined market timing indicator said -0.77, from which equities have traditionally rallied by an average of 9.5% over the next 6 months and with a hit ratio of 87%. The trailing PE of 11.2 for MSCI Europe implies a fall of 23 percent in earnings to take us back to the long-run average PE of 14.5. The percentage of companies with a dividend yield above
the real bond yield is 74 percent.
3) More reflation. Fundamentals are highly uncertain, but after the recent market turmoil we except more reflation efforts from authorities, including further rate cuts and fiscal stimulus that should help to stabilise markets. There have been 15 Fed rate cuts of 75bps or more since 1970, the average 6-month performance of MSCI Europe post such a cut is 10.3% and with a 79% probability of positive performance. As one client put it to us: when authorities start to panic, markets stop panicking.
These kind of bear rallies, say MS, can last for two to six months and are likely to be in the 10 to 20 per cent range. Fundamentals continue to be weak - they expect a fall in European earnings of 1 per cent this year, but with risks very much to the downside.

If this is a mild recession then this could well be the low point for markets in this recession. If it is a more severe, global slowdown - which we think is more likely - then we may well go to lower lows after the bear market rally. But the market is oversold enough for us to be wanting to buy a bit today.
 
gipa69 ha scritto:
L'ultimo quote non esiste!

si, sa di 'rimbalzo telefonato' , mi par quasi di sentirli al telef
ma la questione di fondo resta:
recessione in USA
altro rate cut, minimo 0,5 max 1,0 (!!!)
 

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