Titoli di Stato area Euro GRECIA Operativo titoli di stato - Cap. 1 (3 lettori)

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Imark

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Giorno dopo giorno, oggi quasi non valeva la pena riportare l'OT... prezzi soggetti a variazioni minime, direzionalità del tipo "vacche al pascolo": ognuna per conto proprio... Unico andamento degno di nota su base giornaliera l'avanzamento del GGBei 2025...

il 2013 - 84,68 (BBML) 85,04 (Xtrakter);
il 2014 - 80,86 (BBML) 80,92 (Xtrakter);
il 2015 - 80,38 (BBML) 80,48 (Xtrakter);
il 2016 - 70,04 (BBML) 70,12 (Xtrakter);
il 2017 - 67,76 (BBML) 67,83 (Xtrakter);
il 2018 - 68,25 (BBML) 68,32 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6% 72,62 (BBML) 73,14 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6.5% 74,98 (BBML) 75,04 (Xtrakter);
il 2022 - 67,51 (BBML) 67,64 (Xtrakter);
il 2024 - 61,64 (BBML) 61,23 (Xtrakter);
il 2026 - 61,75 (BBML) 61,94 (Xtrakter);
il 2037 - 54,33 (BBML) 54,30 (Xtrakter);
il 2040 - 54,55 (BBML) 54,56 (Xtrakter);

GGBei 2025 - 53,17 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter
GGBei 2030 - 47,97 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter

Saltati un paio di giorni, vediamo la situazione corrente, con le chiusure OTC di ieri sera. Si rileva una flessione dei prezzi su tutte le lunghezze, con una tenuta discreta solo dei titoli più lunghi: una situazione che vede accentuarsi una tendenziale inversione della curva dei rendimenti a partire dal 2012, senza tuttavia scontare alcuno scenario concreto e ravvicinato di ristrutturazione (con eventuale haircut).

Ne risulta che, prendendo a riferimento i dati Xtrakter, il bond 2011 GR0124015497 (fuori monitor, ma che teniamo d'occhio ogni tanto) sconta ancora un rendimento lordo a scadenza appena sotto il 10% (o appena sopra, se si considera invece il close BBML), si sale attorno al 12% lordo sui bond 2013-2014, con il venire meno del possibile effetto protettivo esplicato dal piano UE - FMI, per scendere poi nuovamente fino a quote poco superiori al 9% lordo di rendimento a scadenza per i bond 2037 e 2040, protette dal proprio prezzo rispetto ad ipotesi di haircut che non fossero molto drastiche.

Bene ed in controtendenza i prezzi dei GGBei a monitor, che salgono per entrambi i titoli.

il 2013 - 84,01 (BBML) 84,19 (Xtrakter);
il 2014 - 79,78 (BBML) 79,99 (Xtrakter);
il 2015 - 79,19 (BBML) 79,60 (Xtrakter);
il 2016 - 68,66 (BBML) 69,05 (Xtrakter);
il 2017 - 66,55 (BBML) 66,77 (Xtrakter);
il 2018 - 66,34 (BBML) 66,91 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6% 71,10 (BBML) 71,43 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6.5% 73,08 (BBML) 73,63 (Xtrakter);
il 2022 - 66,15 (BBML) 66,58 (Xtrakter);
il 2024 - 61,23 (BBML) 61,30 (Xtrakter);
il 2026 - 61,23 (BBML) 61,59 (Xtrakter);
il 2037 - 54,15 (BBML) 54,23 (Xtrakter);
il 2040 - 54,34 (BBML) 54,25 (Xtrakter);

GGBei 2025 - 53,43 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter
GGBei 2030 - 48,48 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter
 
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Imark

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Deutsche Bank Cuts Target Prices For Greek Banks



Deutsche Bank remains neutral on Greek and Cypriot banks in a report dated August 24, while significantly cutting its target prices for the lenders.

The firm cuts its EPS by 67% in 2010E and 54% in 2011E or by 45-50%, excluding the windfall tax effect. It estimates that asset quality and capital adequacy will likely be the main focus areas and as it expects NPLs to peak in 2011E, the major challenge for the banks should be to stay profitable and safeguard their capital, in our view.

“Marginal liquidity is scarce – and provided only by the ECB – and the banks’ large exposure to Greece means that their creditworthiness is closely tied to the creditworthiness of the sovereign,” it says.

“We view macro conditions and asset quality as the main short-term risks (on either side), with wholesale access and capital adequacy as the main long-term challenges,” DB adds.

More specifically, the new price target for NBG is set at EUR11.80 from EUR21.80 EUR maintaining the ‘hold’ rating, for Alpha Bank to EUR5.30 from EUR9.20 (hold), for Eurobank to EUR5.60 from EUR7.50 euros (hold), for Piraeus Bank to EUR5 (hold), for Bank of Cyprus to EUR3.90 from EUR4.70 (hold), for Marfin Popular Bank to EUR1.90 from EUR2.70 (hold), and for ATEBank to EUR0.30 from EUR1.20

(Capital.gr)

Fitch: New Greek Law on Household Debt to Front-Load Credit Issues
19 Aug 2010 9:29 AM (EDT)

Fitch Ratings-London-19 August 2010: Fitch Ratings says that the new law on household debt restructuring is likely to front-load defaults and reduce recoveries in pools of Greek residential mortgage and consumer credits.

The precise impact is yet unknown, but is expected to surpass loan restructuring schemes sponsored by Greek banks in recent months.The new law, effective from 1 September 2010, enables over-indebted borrowers to seek debt relief in front of a court. Its enactment follows a prolonged period of public consultation initiated in late 2009, on which Fitch publicly commented ('Fitch: Greek Draft Law Could Increase Loan Loss Severities & Defaults', dated 2 February 2010).

No major amendments were made to the final law compared to its draft version. The agency maintains its cautious view over certain legal provisions, particularly with regards to moral hazard and implementation risks.

In line with Fitch's initial expectations, Greek lenders have since tightened their loan underwriting procedures, effectively restraining credit flow to the economy. Meanwhile, they have also taken action to support debt-burdened borrowers, facilitating loan rescheduling and/or restructuring via designated self-sponsored schemes.

In the new context, consumer loans and high loan-to-value mortgages are the asset classes most at risk. "The new law effectively shifts negotiating power from the lender to the distressed borrower", says Alessandro Settepani, Senior Director in Fitch's Covered Bonds team in London.

"This alone will put pressure on recoveries from Greek loan portfolios, even in cases where the legal route is not eventually chosen by borrowers".

The enactment of the law could further affect the default timing distribution, bringing loan defaults forward. Fitch, however, expects default rates to stabilise again in the short-to-medium term, once the market has digested the new regime.

Positively, the agency notes the broad-based response from the financial sector over the last few months in the form of self-sponsored schemes. Such schemes have gone some way to alleviate the imminent credit pressure on Greek borrowers, pre-empting the new law to a certain extent.

"Compared with courts, lenders are better placed to assess credit, and increasingly willing to restructure loans on a case-by-case basis", says Spyros Michas, Associate Director in Fitch's Covered Bonds Team in London. "In a dysfunctional housing market, default is in nobody's interest".

Fitch received information from the major Greek banks with details on their individual loan restructuring initiatives. Whilst specific terms and eligibility criteria vary with lenders, volumes of restructured loans have invariably increased across the sector in recent months. This has so far left Greek securitisations and covered bonds largely unaffected, owing to active support by originators in the form of loan repurchases and substitutions.

Such mitigants are valid as long as the originator remains a going concern, but cannot be relied upon for higher rating scenarios. In Fitch's opinion, the new law is an explicit manifestation of the increased sovereign risk Greece has experienced, which is in part already addressed by rating caps applied across the universe of Greek programmes and transactions (for further details see 'Fitch Downgrades 17 Greek SF Transactions Following Sovereign Downgrade', dated 13 April 2010).

Fitch will monitor developments over the next few months closely, focusing on the pace of applications from borrowers, and, most importantly, how they are settled in front of the court. The latter will not only drive the loss severity of the affected loans, but will further determine the ongoing appetite of Greek borrowers to apply under the new provisions.

The new law on household debt restructuring is the latest in a series of government initiatives, including changes in the national credit bureau (Tiresias) and the ongoing suspension of auction proceedings. As the state intervention to private sector affairs in Greece intensifies, Fitch will evaluate the various measures on their own merits and inform its rating opinions accordingly.
 

ferdo

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Bene ed in controtendenza i prezzi dei GGBei a monitor, che si salgono per entrambi i titoli.

il 2013 - 84,01 (BBML) 84,19 (Xtrakter);
il 2014 - 79,78 (BBML) 79,99 (Xtrakter);
il 2015 - 79,19 (BBML) 79,60 (Xtrakter);
il 2016 - 68,66 (BBML) 69,05 (Xtrakter);
il 2017 - 66,55 (BBML) 66,77 (Xtrakter);
il 2018 - 66,34 (BBML) 66,91 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6% 71,10 (BBML) 71,43 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6.5% 73,08 (BBML) 73,63 (Xtrakter);
il 2022 - 66,15 (BBML) 66,58 (Xtrakter);
il 2024 - 61,23 (BBML) 61,30 (Xtrakter);
il 2026 - 61,23 (BBML) 61,59 (Xtrakter);
il 2037 - 54,15 (BBML) 54,23 (Xtrakter);
il 2040 - 54,34 (BBML) 54,25 (Xtrakter);

GGBei 2025 - 53,43 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter
GGBei 2030 - 48,48 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter

curioso che invece sul MOT il GGBei 2025 scenda
 

tommy271

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Czechs Say Will Not Help Greece



The Czech Republic will not participate in the programme to help Greece, Premier Petr Necas told Austrian newspaper Kurier in an interview, without offering greater explanation, Bloomberg reports.

The Czechs remain “responsible” members of the European Union, believe in budget “discipline” and are in favour of expansion, Necas said in the interview.

He described himself as a “Eurorealist” and said his country had lost “prestige” when its government collapsed during its presidency of the EU in 2009. Kurier reported.

(Capital.gr)

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tommy271

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Greek economy seen shrinking less than 4 pct- finmin


ATHENS | Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:20am EDT


ATHENS Aug 25 (Reuters) - Greece's economy will contract less than an official 4.0 percent forecast this year and government guarantees to banks are aimed at ensuring adequate credit expansion, the country's finance minister said.
"The economy is in recession but one that is more shallow than what was initially expected. The year should close with a performance that is better than the 4.0 percent contraction forecast," Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou told deputies in parliament.
 

ferdo

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Andrebbero verificate anche le condizioni di liquidità... magari sul MOT la giornata si conclude con scambi sul titolo per 20k, e c'è qualcuno che ha deciso di vendere a qualsiasi costo... :lol: :lol:

stamattina ha scambiato fino ad un'ora fa 650k con uno scambio da 500k a 51 (ieri solo 65k)
 

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Czechs Say Will Not Help Greece

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Situazione diversa i cechi hanno una reale difficoltà di accedere ai mercati e quindi di rifinanziarsi allo stato attuale. Ci sono crisi nascoste in area EU sulle quali per il momento non si è voluto prestare attenzione ma che prima o poi saranno oggetto di problemi.
 

Imark

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stamattina ha scambiato fino ad un'ora fa 650k con uno scambio da 500k a 51 (ieri solo 65k)

I 500k è probabile vengano da qualche detentore istituzionale, e quell'importo potrebbe aver avuto un effetto trascinamento del prezzo verso il basso... ipotizzo, eh... anche perché 500k di un bond GGBei il 25 agosto sul MOT, difficile provengano dal portafoglio di un privato...
 

ferdo

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I 500k è probabile vengano da qualche detentore istituzionale, e quell'importo potrebbe aver avuto un effetto trascinamento del prezzo verso il basso... ipotizzo, eh... anche perché 500k di un bond GGBei il 25 agosto sul MOT, difficile provengano dal portafoglio di un privato...

certo, non è un privato:
i recenti scambi di 500k c'erano stati:
16 agosto a 51,50
10 agosto a 51,80
 
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