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The projections place the spread above the German Bund rate at 250 basis points in 2010 :lol: , falling to 200 bp in 2011, 150 bp in 2012, and 100 bp thereafter

Attualmente quanto la Grecia deve calcolare come interesse sul debito per il proprio bilancio è mediamente di poco sopra al 4% quindi non distante da quanto sopra evidenziato vs bund.

Lo spread sul mercato sarà un aspetto centrale del prossimo anno poichè sarà necessario che converga con i tassi del prestito EU/IMF.

L'unico scenario che ritengo plausibile in termini di default è che EU/IMF accompagnino la Grecia con i prestiti ad un deficit zero nel 2013-2014 e quindi la lascino libera di fare default uscendo dall'euro e ripartendo con svalutazioni successive della moneta locale.
Ma la sola ragione per cui tale scenario dovrebbe accadere è che la politica locale non abbia più strumenti per sedare la piazza oppure che ci siano cambiamenti politici tali da veicolare tale scenario. Ricordo che con GDP positivo tornerebbe, ad invarianza delle spese del governo centrale, a scendere la dinamica del debito.

Mi sfugge francamente per quale ragione dovrebbero far default prima di aver raggiunto la parità di bilancio, non avrebbero più la possibilità di rivolgersi al mercato perchè non si avrebbe idea del valore della dracma a quel punto e immagino nessuno voglia investire in una moneta dal valore difficilmente valutabile. Il fondo di 25 miliardi per le banche greche immagino servirà a far fronte alle emissioni sul breve per cui problemi imminenti non ne vedo.
 
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Trichet outraged by Slovak "no" to Greek loan- ECB would not back Slovak euro entry, had it known


Martin Santa and Jan Strupczewski, BRATISLAVA/BRUSSELS - 13.09.2010


Slovakia set a bad example by refusing support for a loan to Greece, and the European Central Bank will not support euro entry by others unless sure they will not take similar steps in the future, ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet was quoted as saying.


A memo from this week's meeting of euro zone finance ministers, seen by Reuters, said Trichet was outraged at the refusal by Slovakia to participate in the Greek bailout.


Several EU officials said privately Slovakia could be snubbed by some of the 26 other EU member states because its decision is likely to complicate talks on the bloc's budget, making the rich net payers less willing to grant aid to poorer countries.


"Trichet was outraged at the last Eurogroup by Slovakia's refusal of a bilateral loan to Greece and said that had the ECB known Slovakia would behave like that, it would not have endorsed Slovakia's euro adoption," the memo summarising the discussion said.


"It sets a bad example for future candidate countries. Also (he said) that the ECB would not back future euro zone applicants if there is a risk they will do something similar."


Two euro zone sources confirmed Trichet made the comments.


"That is a fairly faithful account of what was said," one source said.


The parliament in Slovakia, the poorest of the 16 countries that use the euro, last month ruled against contributing 816 million euros ($1.05 billion) to a 110 billion euro bailout fund for Greece.


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"Some European institutions voiced concerns about Slovakia's stance on the Greek loan during the Eurogroup meeting. Since this was a meeting of a confidential nature, we will neither confirm nor decline individual comments," Slovak finance ministry spokesman Martin Jaros said.


The ECB had no comment.


In its convergence reports, the ECB evaluates how well non-euro zone EU members fulfil euro entry criteria.


Besides inflation, the euro entry criteria are: budget deficit below 3 percent of GDP, gross public debt below 60 percent/GDP, nominal long-term interest rates no more than 2 percentage points higher than the average of the three states with lowest inflation.


Bratislava said taxpayers in a country that has kept its debt under control should not have to bail out a profligate one.


Slovakia's new right-leaning government opposed taking part in the bailout despite a pledge by the previous administration to support Greece, where the budget deficit had ballooned so much that it threatened the stability of the euro zone.


The aid package will go ahead despite the refusal by the Slovak parliament, but Bratislava's position dealt a blow to euro zone unity in the face of the financial crisis and Slovakia has run into sharp criticism from European governments.


However, the Slovak position has been backed by the Czech Republic, a country that has taken a slow approach toward euro entry and currently has no target date.


A major issue in the Slovak refusal to help Greece is that Slovakia, which only joined the euro in 2009, is the euro area's poorest state and its wages and pensions are far below those in Greece, which makes aid to Athens widely unpopular.


The monthly minimum wage in the ex-communist country which joined the European Union in 2004 is 308 euros, well below the Greek minimum legal wage of 863 euros.


Source Reuters- Balkans.com


 

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Deutsche Bank Asks NBG To Participate In Share Capital Increase



Deutsche Bank’s head Joseph Ackermann has asked NBG to participate it the German Bank’s planned share capital increase, according to sources.

A senior NBG official confirmed DB’s call.

"The proposal was made. We are mulling on it. Nothing has been decided yet, "he said, adding that the Greek lender would come up with a decision in the coming two weeks.

The German Bank said Sunday it would seek to raise fresh capital of EUR9.8 bil. in order to secure its capital base and buy a majority stake at Deutsche Postbank

It is noted that DB is one of the underwriters for NBG’s share capital increase.

Bankers commenting on the "invitation" by DB note that this is a direct and pretty acknowledgement of NBG’s strong positioning after it completes its EUR2.8 bil. share capital increase.

(Capital.gr)
 

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IMF Board OK’s Second Tranche For Greece



The International Monetary Fund Friday said it would disburse EUR2.57 bil, the second instalment of the EU/IMF loan programme, to Greece.

“The Greek authorities have made a strong start with their economic program, and their determined implementation has started to deliver results. All quantitative performance criteria for end-June were met, and major structural reforms are ahead of schedule,” Murilo Portugal, Deputy Managing Director and Acting Chair said.

He noted that it is essential to continue implementing the program rigorously, supported by the large-scale financial support of the international community, while securing public consensus for reforms.

“The fiscal strategy is on track. Continued tight expenditure control and monitoring will be key, in particular at sub-national levels. The authorities are determined to strengthen tax administration and reduce tax evasion to secure revenues and promote fairness in adjustment,” Portugal noted.

“Restoring competitiveness and boosting potential growth is critical. Impressive progress has been made in structural reforms. A far-reaching pension reform has been approved by parliament, and substantive labor market reform is underway. Priority now needs to be given to opening closed professions, moving forward with deregulation, implementing the services directive, and eliminating barriers to tourism and retail trade, where potential for growth remains high.

“Liquidity in banks remains tight but manageable, supported by the ECB and the government’s guarantee program. The new Financial Stability Fund provides an important back-stop for capital adequacy. Moreover, the Greek authorities have commissioned a strategic review for the banking sector and a due diligence for state banks. Continued close monitoring of the financial sector will be important,” Portugal said.

(Capital.gr)

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Le motivazioni alla seconda tranche del prestito FMI.
 

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Three steps to avoid restructuring

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Besides taking fiscal measures, Greece must mobilize forces abroad through sovereign wealth funds


By Dimitris Kontogiannis - Kathimerini English Edition




The determination of the Greek government, the EU and the IMF to avoid the restructuring of the country’s public debt should not be doubted. This does not mean, however, they will be successful. Greece may proceed with a partial restructuring of its debt held by official lenders but this may not be the kind of credit event many market participants have in mind. However, it still has a chance to avoid even this by taking some other steps.

By all accounts, the Greek economy is heading deeper into the worst recession in the last few decades. The gross domestic product (GDP) fell 1.8 percent in the second quarter compared to the first, confirming widespread evidence from the business community that main sectors of the economy, such as construction, real estate, retail and wholesale commerce, are under severe strain. This is largely the outcome of an overdose of austerity administered by the government and the so-called troika, that is, the EU, the IMF and the ECB, to achieve an ambitious reduction of the general government budget deficit to 8.1 percent of GDP from an estimated 13.6 percent in 2009.

It is another reminder that orthodox economic textbook models, even modified, cannot be applied to all countries under all circumstances. With tax revenue growth slipping as austerity bites and higher taxes hurt consumption, it becomes clear that the attainment of the budget deficit target may be tougher than initially thought. This is so because the economy is hurt in a profound way, as the productive private sector is called upon to share a larger burden of the fiscal adjustment than it should – although the blame for the mess of Greek public finances rests squarely with the unproductive public sector. More and more businessmen, bankers and employees in the private sector who are feeling the heat are obviously disappointed and angry. The following quote by a middle-management employee in one of Greece’s largest construction groups captures the frustration: “Do you know why this is all happening? For the civil servants, who are not threatened by unemployment, and our creditors to be paid in time.”

Whatever the case, it is clear that the number of Greek corporate officials who believe in the so-called “good scenario,” that is, that the country will put its public finances in order, contain the economic downturn and be able to borrow at relatively reasonable interest rates next year, is diminishing. According to them, the best possible outcome would be for the official lenders to agree to a roll-over of the 100 billion euros provided to Greece over a longer period to smooth out the payments related to the service of the public debt. This is not a credit event and therefore will not trigger clauses in Greek credit default swaps (CDS) or others linked to holdings of Greek bonds by private investors.

Most pessimists on the Greek economy do not rule out this happening in the next few months, while others place it in mid-2011. Even the most optimistic think it is likely we will see a restructuring of this portion of Greek public debt. They think it is likely to take place at the end of 2011 or beginning of 2012. Their idea is primary spending, which does not include interest expenditure on public debt, should be equal to revenues so the country can stand on its feet and have greater leverage over its creditors when this happens. However, it is unclear that it will be possible to attain this in late 2011 or early 2012.
It may be reasonable to think this way but it is uncertain whether some EU countries or even the IMF will go along with it, although this is likely given the alternative if Greece cannot still borrow in the markets. What can be done to avoid even the official restructuring of Greek debt and make it possible for Greece to borrow at reasonable terms in international markets in late 2011 or early 2012, assuming a benign world financial environment?

Three steps should be taken. First, fiscal consolidation should continue but more attention should be paid to the real economy instead of just taking measures to meet the budget deficit reduction target. This means Greece has to mobilize foreign direct and indirect investments.

Second, an upgrade of its credit rating status by Moody’s or S&P at some point in the first half or nine months of 2011 should be pursued with the help of the EU and the IMF. This will help bring down Greek spreads and create a better environment for the country’s bonds.

Third, Greece should try to convince sovereign wealth funds to buy a considerable chunk of its new bonds when they are issued. It is positive that Norway’s sovereign wealth fund stated it is a buyer in Greek bonds because it does not believe the country will default on its debt but this is not enough. Greece had flirted with selling its bonds to the Chinese in the past and should go back to them. The same holds true with Arab or other sovereign wealth funds in the Far East.
We stress sovereign funds because they usually are not held back by their statutes for not buying government bonds if a country is not rated investment-grade by at least two major credit rating agencies, as is the case with most other investment funds.


All-in-all, market participants may be right in reckoning the restructuring of the portion of Greek debt held by the country’s official creditors is likely. Even so, Greece should try to make it easier for itself and everybody else by taking the three steps outlined above. This way, it may succeed in doing what most market participants think today is unimaginable.
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Questa mattina in lieve calo i CDS per CMA a quota 874,23. Probabilità default al 51,36%.
Spread/Bund stabili intorno a quota 955 pb.
Borsa di Atene poco mossa. Indice Ase a 1588 punti con + 0,30. Volumi a 21 Mln.
 

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EU, IMF, ECB inspectors due in Athens to review Greek progress on economy


ATHENS, Greece (AP) - International inspectors will start Monday a two-week review of Greece's efforts to overhaul its debt-ridden economy and plan its budget, with a view to approving the second installment of its bailout loan.
The delegation from the European Commission, International Monetary Fund and European Central Bank is due in Athens as Greece is expected to receive by Tuesday euro9 billion ($11.45 billion) from the IMF and other euro countries.
Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou is scheduled to meet with high-ranking officials from the three agencies during a road show to London, Paris and Frankfurt starting Wednesday, where the minister will be meeting investors.
 

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Intanto ieri giornata positiva per i TDS greci, in buon rimbalzo sul giorno precedente. Bene i titoli più lunghi, che avevano patito i cali dei giorni scorsi in misura molto modesta. Quelli di lunghezza media e fino al decennale anche rimbalzano bene, ma in misura insufficiente a recuperare i cali dei giorni scorsi.

il 2013 - 84,27 (BBML) 84,02 (Xtrakter);
il 2014 - 79,69 (BBML) 79,76 (Xtrakter);
il 2015 - 78,60 (BBML) 78,31 (Xtrakter);
il 2016 - 67,18 (BBML) 66,46 (Xtrakter);
il 2017 - 65,65 (BBML) 64,85 (Xtrakter);
il 2018 - 65,14 (BBML) 64,00 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6% 68,67 (BBML) 67,47 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6.5% 70,51 (BBML) 69,92 (Xtrakter);
il 2022 - 64,30 (BBML) 63,70 (Xtrakter);
il 2024 - 59,35 (BBML) 59,00 (Xtrakter);
il 2026 - 60,41 (BBML) 60,47 (Xtrakter);
il 2037 - 53,86 (BBML) 54,00 (Xtrakter);
il 2040 - 54,13 (BBML) 54,60 (Xtrakter);

GGBei 2025 - 53,04 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter
GGBei 2030 - 48,26 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter

OTC venerdì: sono tornati i prezzi di BBML, meglio così. Fermi i prezzi lungo la prima parte della curva dei rendimenti, leggermente declinanti sulla parte lunga, tornano invece positivi su quella lunghissima, espressa dal 2037 e dal 2040.

il 2013 - 84,11 (BBML) 84,19 (Xtrakter);
il 2014 - 79,40 (BBML) 79,78 (Xtrakter);
il 2015 - 78,25 (BBML) 78,73 (Xtrakter);
il 2016 - 66,32 (BBML) 66,55 (Xtrakter);
il 2017 - 64,63 (BBML) 64,76 (Xtrakter);
il 2018 - 63,57 (BBML) 63,75 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6% 67,30 (BBML) 67,30 (Xtrakter);
il 2019 6.5% 69,18 (BBML) 69,33 (Xtrakter);
il 2022 - 63,79 (BBML) 63,73 (Xtrakter);
il 2024 - 58,30 (BBML) 58,93 (Xtrakter);
il 2026 - 60,50 (BBML) 60,46 (Xtrakter);
il 2037 - 55,28 (BBML) 55,15 (Xtrakter);
il 2040 - 55,40 (BBML) 55,60 (Xtrakter);

GGBei 2025 - 51,01 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter
GGBei 2030 - 47,00 (BBML), non significativo su Xtrakter
 

tommy271

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Prime Minister in Oslo

OSLO (ANA-MPA/G. Milionis) - Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou arrived in Oslo on Sunday afternoon to participate in the 'Oslo Conference 2010', that is being jointly organised by the International Labour Organisation and the IMF and will focus on growth, employment and social cohesion.
Papandreou assured that there will be no new austerity measures as long as Greece was "doing well" with regard to the targets of the memorandum for the European financial support package, during a press conference on the sidelines of the annual Thessaloniki International Fair (TIF) on Sunday.
"We either change Greece or condemn it," he repeated in statements to reporters, while stressing the need to stop constant speculation in the media about probable additional measures and thus generating fear and panic.
The process foreseen by the memorandum comes to an end in 2013 and the sooner the changes were made, the sooner Greece would be free of the restrictions of the Memorandum and possibly even before 2013, he said at another point.
The prime minister stressed that his government had successfully changed the country's course and averted a disaster during its 11 months in power, saying that Greece had been saved from defaulting on its debts. At the same time, he stressed that the alert was not yet over.
Noting that there were still problems with the size of state revenues, Papandreou claimed that these were not insuperable and that the government was still on track to meet its target of reducing the deficit by 40 percent by the end of the year.
The prime minister denied reports that the shortfall in revenue was around 3.5 billion euros, saying that the actual figure was closer to 1.5 billion euros.
 

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Greek Market Hovers Around 1,600



Athens stocks post mixed signs on Monday on the aftermath of PM’s address at the Thessaloniki Trade Fair and the new capital requirements for banks set by the Basel Committee.

“National Bank of Greece monopolized the interest of the investing community the previous week after the announcement of the bank that will increase its share capital leading the General Index on Friday to close at 1.588,33 points (-1,40%). The banking sector will be in the spotlight as the rumors relating to the sector are amplified day by day with fresh scenarios and assumptions implicating almost all the banks. Technically, 1610 points consist the first level of resistance while in case of not returning above 1.630 points during the week, the market will move in negative territories (in the short-term as well) with 1.400 points (previous lows) being the first strong support level,” Pegasus says in its morning report.

“Everything seems to be moving around banking sector’s flagship strategic move and the speculation that this has brought about. Volatility is expected to persist.

The completion of HELEX’s road show could give us some flows,” Marfin Analysis says.

Across the board, the General Index inches up 0.03% at 1,588.76 on a total turnover of 19.70 mil. euro

Financials were gaining as much as 1.63%.

(Capital.gr)
 
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