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[tommy271]

Dutch exclusion from Greece debt talks criticised







Sun May 8, 2011 12:29pm EDT

* Ex-government ministers, MP say exclusion an 'insult'
* Finance ministry says talks over Greece will continue



AMSTERDAM, May 8 (Reuters) - Former Dutch government ministers and a prominent eurosceptic MP criticised the exclusion of the Netherlands from talks over Greece's debt situation, calling it an insult to the Dutch government.
Ministers from the euro zone's biggest economies met on Friday to discuss Greece's debt situation, after which Athens and senior EU officials denied that the Greek government had raised the prospect of leaving the 17-member euro zone.

"It is a humiliation and an insult that the Netherlands is being bypassed for talks about Greece," Geert Wilders, leader of the anti-immigration and eurosceptic Freedom Party, told news agency ANP on Sunday.
Wilders, whose Freedom Party supports the minority Dutch coalition government on various issues, said the Dutch government should not accept this and immediately stop paying Dutch taxpayer money to countries such as Greece.
Former development aid minister Bert Koenders, speaking on radio, was also critical about the Netherlands being excluded, while former foreign minister Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said all euro zone ministers should have been invited to the talks.
Dutch finance minister Jan Kees de Jager was assured by the French and German finance ministers, however, that nothing was decided upon on Friday and that the Netherlands will have input in any future decisions, a ministry spokeswoman said.
De Jager was briefed about the talks on Saturday.
The ministry spokeswoman added it is normal for euro zone talks to be held on several levels and dismissed any criticism as "premature" as more talks are planned at an ecofin meeting later this month.
Wilders, whose comments do not reflect government foreign policy, also said on Twitter that it would be "fantastic" if Greece and Portugal were to leave the euro zone.
He argued both countries are costing the Netherlands, the euro zone's fifth largest economy, "buckets of money" that could be better spent domestically.
Wilders was not alone in supporting a potential Greek exit from the euro zone after German Free Democrats MP Frank Schaeffler said Berlin should constructively support Athens should it choose to leave the zone.

German economy minister Rainer Bruederle rejected, however, speculation that Greece should abandon the euro zone and return to the drachma, arguing that this would only weaken Europe at a time when it needs to be strengthened.

 

[tommy271]

German Economists Warn Against Greek Exit From Euro, Welt Says

By Aaron Kirchfeld - May 8, 2011 3:11 PM GMT+0200

Commerzbank AG (CBK) Chief Economist Joerg Kraemer said it would be “economic suicide” for Greece to return to the drachma, which would prompt a run on local banks to withdraw euros, Welt reported, citing an interview.
Thomas Mayer, chief economist at Deutsche Bank AG, said a Greek exit from the euro region would lead to a crisis in Europe’s political and currency union and could cause a bank run in some EU countries, the newspaper said.
Thomas Straubhaar, head of the Hamburg-based HWWI economic institute, told the newspaper a euro exit could force Greece into bankruptcy and cause a “domino effect” like the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.


(Bloomberg)

 

[ficodindia]

Un fatto è certo: per salvare l'euro è necessario salvare la Grecia.

Cari amici tedeschi non potete pretendere di avere "la botte piena e la moglie ubriaca", se vi stà a cuore la sorte dell'euro, poichè in effetti tra i paesi europei siete quello che ne ha avuto più vantaggio, dovete necessariamente essere finalmente più solidali e salvare la Grecia.

 

[C.Bonacieux]

Dal Fatto quotidiano di oggi:
Perché la Grecia uscirà dall’euro (non subito) Atene ha solo due alternative davanti a sé: uscire adesso prima di esaurire tutte le riserve valutarie in cassa, oppure quando in cassa non ci sarà più niente. Dall'Europa un piano di aiuti pasticciato. Germania, Francia e Olanda non hanno salvato il popolo greco: hanno salvato i propri banchieri dall'insolvenza greca Di fronte al diniego tedesco, finlandese ed olandese di allargare i cordoni della Borsa e accettare di farsi carico in toto del debito pubblico greco, Atene ha solo due alternative davanti a sé: uscire dall’euro subito prima di esaurire tutte le riserve valutarie in cassa, oppure uscire dall’euro quando non ci sarà più niente in cassa. Quando il settimanale tedesco “Der Spiegel” ha raccontato, venerdì, che i negoziati sull’uscita dall’euro sarebbero già in atto, è scoppiato un comprensibile panico, nonostante le smentite del governo di Atene. Il Pil greco, sceso del 4,2 per cento lo scorso anno, nel 2011 si contrarrà di un ulteriore 3 per cento, mentre l’inflazione salirà di almeno 2 punti. La Banca centrale greca ha detto che l’inflazione risultante dall’aumento dell’Iva e dall’aumento del prezzo della benzina ha ridotto i salari reali del 9 per cento lo scorso anno e nel 2011 si aggiungerà una contrazione del 5 per cento.

Tutte le banche sono virtualmente in solventi e sono mantenute in vita solo dalla generosa liquidità erogata dalla Bce, unica istituzione finanziaria del mondo che continua ad accettare i titoli di Stato greci a garanzia dei prestiti erogati. Il sistema finanziario interno è bloccato, i crediti erogati sono inevitabilmente in rapido deterioramento. La desertificazione economica è stata accelerata dalle misure draconiane imposte dall’Europa nel maggio 2010 quando è stato erogato un prestito di 110 miliardi di euro per “salvare” la Grecia. La salvezza di Atene sarebbe stata quella di non essere entrata nell’euro, di non aver avuto accesso a prestiti facili con bassi tassi d’interesse che hanno fatto raggiungere al paese l’apogeo della bolla finanziaria con le spese faraoniche fatte per le Olimpiadi del 2004. Grazie alla bolla olimpica i cittadini greci hanno conosciuto una crescita economica del 4 per cento annuo dal 2003 al 2007. I governi alla ricerca di facile consenso hanno aumentato la spesa e il numero di dipendenti pubblici fino a far diventare il settore statale responsabile per il 40 per cento del Pil, cioè su ogni euro che circola in Grecia 40 centesimi provengono dalle casse statali. L’Europa ha tentato di mascherare questi dati con un piano di aiuti pasticciato, fatto di un prestito emergenziale che è servito solo a ripagare le banche straniere dei crediti verso Atene: la maggior parte dei 110 miliardi sono finiti nelle casse delle banche di quei Paesi che avevano erogato il prestito. Germania, Francia ed Olanda non hanno salvato il popolo greco hanno salvato i propri banchieri da perdite miliardarie in caso di insolvenza greca.

E lo hanno fatto con il concorso di tutti anche di chi, come l’Italia, non aveva una esposizione considerevole al rischio greco. La stessa cosa è stata fatta con l’Irlanda e sarà fatta con il Portogallo. Ma quanto può durare? Sempre più investitori ed economisti pensano che le istituzioni europee abbiano messo in piedi un gigantesco schema Ponzi: come nella vicenda Madoff i primi a tirare fuori i soldi (le banche private europee ed americane) riporteranno a casa i capitali con dignitosi profitti, gli ultimi rimarranno con il cerino in mano e subiranno le conseguenze di perdite disastrose.

Nella piramide messa in piedi dall’Ecofin e dalla Banca centrale europea alla base ci sono i cittadini dell’Unione e ai vertici i banchieri. Le finanze pubbliche sostengono il pagamento dei debiti dei paesi in difficoltà, le banche creditrici incassano e poi non erogano più credito e il gioco è fatto gli unici creditori rimangono gli stessi Stati europei che hanno la scelta o di trasferire i costi tramite la fiscalità generale o di non pagare a loro volta i propri debiti. Tutti sanno che lo schema non regge che prima o poi crollerà, ma i politici non pensano a lungo termine, come tanti Madoff spostano in avanti il problema. Si troverà un compromesso sulla Grecia, si erogherà un prestito ponte al Portogallo e si consentirà all’Irlanda di pagare meno interessi sul prestito europeo, fino a quando i mercati consentiranno alla Catena di San’Antonio europea di stare in piedi poi ognuno per sé e Dio per tutti.


Link: Perché la Grecia uscirà dall

 

[METHOS]

Dal Fatto quotidiano di oggi:


Link: Perché la Grecia uscirà dall

Letto, nulla di che. Pensavo che il fatto avesse dei giornalisti migliori. Questi articoli vanno bene per persone che sono totalmente estranee alla questione e fanno solo qualunquismo.

 

[tommy271]

Britain rules itself out of new Greek bailout

Greece admits that it might need help next year due to not being able to access markets

Britain has attempted to rule itself out of taking part in any new loan assistance to Greece but Chancellor George Osborne has admitted that it is likely Athens will need more help next year.
Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou admitted this weekend that Greece is examining various ways in which to ease its debt burden, including the possibility of the European Financial Stability Facility buying its bonds, as it looks unlikely that Athens will be able to access international markets next year.
"The markets continue to disbelieve in our country,» he said. «We have to plan our next steps for 2012, for 2013.»
Several EU finance minister, including Papaconstantinou, discussed in Luxembourg on Friday the possibility that Greece would be unable to meet its financial commitments next year.
The British chancellor said that a Greek default is not a foregone conclusion but it is certain that some change to the Greek package would be needed.
"I certainly don't think it's inevitable that Greece is going to default,» Osborne told the BBC on Sunday.
"I think it's inevitable that we are going to look at the Greek package and see what they can do to get through next year but that might involve additional assistance from, for example, the euro zone."
Osborne admitted markets were skeptical about Greece's ability to refinance maturing debt, something that had been assumed when international lenders first agreed to help Greece last year.
"The market is quite sceptical about that happening and I suspect a lot of my time over the next few weeks is going to be with other European finance ministers talking about how we try to help the Greeks get through this situation,» he said.
He said he did not want Britain to be part of any further bailout of Greece, and was a «reluctant participant» in the EU-IMF bailout of Portugal.
"I didn't sign up to that approach. It was something signed up to by my predecessor,» he said.
"We certainly don't want to be part of any bailout of Greece, a second bailout of Greece."






ekathimerini.com , Sunday May 8, 2011 (16:59)

 

[tommy271]

Panathinaikos is the new European basketball champion

Greens beat Maccabi 78-70 in Euroleague final

By George Georgakopoulos




Panathinaikos won its sixth Euroleague trophy after defeating Israel's Maccabi Tel Aviv 78-70 in the final at Barcelona on May 8.
The Greek club, by far Europe’s most successful in the last 20 years, won its third European crown in the last five years.
Throughout the match Panathinaikos was the better team, thanks both to its strength under the basket and its diverse attacking strategies that destroyed the Tel Aviv club’s zone defense.
Such was the defensive might of Panathinaikos that it managed to contain Maccabi to just 70 points, down from an average of over 80 points in this season's Euroleague.
The Greens led from the start, stretching their advantage to seven points at the end of the first period (22-15), forcing Maccabi's Greek star Sofoklis Schortsianitis to concede two early fouls and get substituted.
The effective combination of Antonis Fotsis with Mike Batiste or Aleks Maric under the basket prevented a series of Maccabi shots, frustrating the Israelis, who at one point in the first half had made no more than just one of 13 two-point shots.
In the second period, Maccabi came back to threaten Panathinaikos thanks to its great rate in three-pointers (four our of seven at one point in the first half), but the reigning Greek and new European champion regained the upper hand to end the first half with a three-point advantage (33-30).
Never-say-die Maccabi made a good start to the second half with a 6-2 partial score, but this proved short-lived.
Drew Nicholas turned things in Panathinaikos's favor for good midway through the third period, as he scored eight points in Panathinaikos's partial 11-3 score that turned Maccabi's 36-35 lead into a 46-39 advantage for the Greeks.
An impressive Fotsis slam dunk a little later took the score to 51-40. The third period duly ended 54-43.
With tactics that dictated aggressive play around Schortsianitis, Panathinaikos forced the Greek forward to concede two more fouls and return to the bench in the fourth period as the Greens led by 14 (61-47).
Maccabi made one last effort to reduce the arrears, cutting the distance to seven points (63-56) but Panathinaikos promptly restored order (67-56).
Batiste was the European champion's top scorer with 18 points, followed by Diamantidis (16) and Nicholas (14).
A day earlier Diamantidis had received the Euroleague's MVP of the season award. He and Batiste were among the best five players of the competition, the Euroleague organizers announced.






ekathimerini.com , Sunday May 8, 2011 (20:22)

***
Un risultato positivo.
Speriamo si prosegua anche sul terreno economico ...

 

[tommy271]

I TITOLI DEI GIORNALI:


Friday's eurogroup meeting in Luxembourg and reactions to a Der Spiegel article that Greece was contemplating an exit from the euro currency were the main front-page items in Sunday's newspapers.



AVGHI: "Secret diplomacy on debt and 'family silverware'."

AVRIANI: "Don't anyone dare to sign the new Ultra-Memorandum decided in Luxembourg because they will find themselves behind bars".

ELEFTHEROS TYPOS: "Heavy price for extension/breather to Greece".

ELEFTHEROTYPIA: "Default on payments of 10 billion euros by the public sector".

EPOCHI: "They're saving us in order to milk us...".

ETHNOS: "New Memorandum in exchange for extension".

KATHIMERINI: "Luxembourg and the morning after".

KERDOS: "Extension with Memorandum no. 2, and early elections on the horizon".

LOGOS: "Who will gain from the debt restructuring".

PROTO THEMA: "Blackmail with the drachma - Greece-Germany war over the scenario".

REALNEWS: "New Memorandum on the horizon".

RIZOSPASTIS: "Strike on Wednesday, May 11, against the anti-popular policy".

TO ARTHRO: "Return to drachma, or bankruptcy - Der Spiegel reveals the government's and prime minister's secret plans to face the economic and political impasse".

TO VIMA: "Dramatic bargaining for extension, new measures".

VRADYNI: "Heavy and hazardous work - The salary reductions in the new list".

(ana.gr)

 

[IL MARATONETA]

Al di là del tono allarmistico e di inesattezze (La Grecia pagherebbe un interesse superiore al 20% sul suo debito?) nel complesso il contenuto dell'articolo dice delle cose da condividere: il destino dell'Italia è legato a quello della Grecia e la necessità di emettere eurobond per risolvere la crisi e combattere la speculazione.

condivisibili, si'; mi sembra comunque che feltri abbia scoperto l'acqua calda.....

 

[belindo]

I TITOLI DEI GIORNALI:


Friday's eurogroup meeting in Luxembourg and reactions to a Der Spiegel article that Greece was contemplating an exit from the euro currency were the main front-page items in Sunday's newspapers.



AVGHI: "Secret diplomacy on debt and 'family silverware'."

AVRIANI: "Don't anyone dare to sign the new Ultra-Memorandum decided in Luxembourg because they will find themselves behind bars".

ELEFTHEROS TYPOS: "Heavy price for extension/breather to Greece".

ELEFTHEROTYPIA: "Default on payments of 10 billion euros by the public sector".

EPOCHI: "They're saving us in order to milk us...".

ETHNOS: "New Memorandum in exchange for extension".

KATHIMERINI: "Luxembourg and the morning after".

KERDOS: "Extension with Memorandum no. 2, and early elections on the horizon".

LOGOS: "Who will gain from the debt restructuring".

PROTO THEMA: "Blackmail with the drachma - Greece-Germany war over the scenario".

REALNEWS: "New Memorandum on the horizon".

RIZOSPASTIS: "Strike on Wednesday, May 11, against the anti-popular policy".

TO ARTHRO: "Return to drachma, or bankruptcy - Der Spiegel reveals the government's and prime minister's secret plans to face the economic and political impasse".

TO VIMA: "Dramatic bargaining for extension, new measures".

VRADYNI: "Heavy and hazardous work - The salary reductions in the new list".

(ana.gr)

Domani mi sa che sarà dura per le quotazioni
Speriamo almeno che il "virus" non si divulghi a Ovest..............