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German privatisation agency poor model for Greece






Mon Jul 4, 2011 10:14am EDT

* German Treuhand aimed for profit but lost billions
* Greece has different objectives than Germany
* Juncker praises Treuhand but overlooks pitfalls

By Erik Kirschbaum


BERLIN, July 4 (Reuters) - The Treuhand privatisation agency set up to sell off East German state assets is being touted by Eurogroup chairman Jean-Claude Juncker as a model of German efficiency that could help resolve Greek's debt crisis.
But the fire sale of communist East German industry -- 14,000 companies were sold in four years -- may not be such a shining example for Greece because the Treuhand ended up $170 billion in debt instead of an anticipated $900 billion profit.
Greek's parliament voted last week to set up a privatisation agency under austerity plans agreed with the European Union and IMF. Juncker has repeatedly portrayed the now defunct German agency as a beacon for Greece, as have Dutch leaders.
The Treuhand conducted its four years blitz disposal of East German assets from the former aviation ministry headquarters built for Hermann Goering's Luftwaffe.
Launched with great promise in 1990, it left massive debts, a legacy of bitterness after 2.5 million jobs were eliminated and wide swathes of de-industrialisation.
There are key differences between the situation of East Germany as communism imploded across Eastern Europe and the debt crisis plaguing Greece. Economists agree, however, that Germany's experience offers cautionary tales.
"It might not serve as the best model for Greece, but the Treuhand did run into a lot of unexpected and unpleasant surprises and that could happen in Greece too," said Juergen Michels, the lead euro zone economist at Citigroup in London.
"What's similar is Greece will be selling off a very large overall package of assets," he added. "The unknown question about it all is what are the underlying values. There are lots of question marks surrounding large loss-making companies."




LOSS INSTEAD OF PROFIT
The biggest surprise was the gap between initial estimates of what East Germany's state-owned industry would be worth and the stunning amount it ended up costing reunited Germany to wind up the communist state's companies.
East Germany did have one of the strongest economies in East Europe in the Cold War and Detlev Rohwedder, a West German industrialist assigned to run the Treuhand, confidently forecast huge windfall profits from selling off East German holdings.
"The whole thing is worth about 600 billion marks ($380 billion)," Rohwedder said after being appointed by Chancellor Helmut Kohl in 1990.

The Treuhand was the brainchild of civil rights activists who toppled communism and opposed unity with West Germany. In early 1990 they proposed an agency to sell off state property, then worth an estimated 1.4 trillion Deutsche marks ($890 billion), and distribute the profits to the eastern public.
But the Treuhand had only four months from March 1 to June 30, 1990 before the convulsions of monetary union between East and West Germany made its task far more difficult.
The West German government introduced the Deutschemark at a one-to-one parity with the East German mark on July 1, 1990 instead of a much higher 5-to-1 market rate. That placed a huge burden on Treuhand industries with sky-high debt and costs.
In addition, East German firms lost their biggest market in communist eastern Europe, while their domestic customers were thirsting to buy for Western goods and know-how.
Rohwedder took charge on July 3, 1990 and quickly became a focal point of critics in the east, who described him as the callous face of Western capitalism. Angry easterners staged mass protests at the Treuhand, blaming it for rising unemployment.
Rohwedder was assassinated by suspected left-wing militants in 1991. He was succeeded by Birgit Breuel, a conservative ex-finance minister of the West German state of Lower Saxony.
When the Treuhand closed in 1994, it had run up debts of 270 billion Deutsche marks ($172 billion). Four million Germans were employed by Treuhand-owned companies in 1990 but only about 1.5 million jobs were left in 1994.




HASTE MAKES WASTE, GERMAN WARNS
The Treuhand's failures were largely blamed on the legacy of an inefficient, bureaucratic communist economy, while its rare successes were ascribed to a group of dedicated western managers who put their careers on hold to help the reconstruction effort.
"I'd say the Treuhand succeeded by and large in its objective and did quite a good job under difficult conditions in the early 1990s," said Ferdinand Fichtner, chief economist of the DIW economic research institute in Berlin.
"It had a huge volume of privatisations to complete in just a few years and it's got a negative image for reasons beyond its control. Eastern companies lost their business customers when demand for East German goods from the east bloc collapsed.
"I think it's wrong to blame the Treuhand for that and high unemployment," he added, referring to the chronically high level of joblessness in eastern Germany. It has remained roughly double west German levels since 1990 and is now at 10.9 percent.
Joerg Kraemer, chief economist at Commerzbank in Frankfurt, said it was difficult to compare the Treuhand and its task with the problems facing Greece.
"It's a different issue," Kraemer said. "The Treuhand was not trying to sell assets at the highest possible price and it wasn't primarily concerned about the fiscal budget. Its job was to sell off dilapidated communist state companies in the hope that they'd be rebuilt, restructured, and made healthy.
"Greece has a completely different objective," Kraemer said.
Under its EU/IMF bailout programme, Athens is supposed to sell a state asset every 10 days on average.
Fichtner at DIW said he hopes the Greek sell-off will be slowed down and made more orderly with a Treuhand-like agency. He said privatisations earnings will be small compared to long term savings of newly privatised firms becoming more efficient.
"The revenues aren't going to be substantial enough to significantly reduce the debt in Greece," Fichtner said. "In my mind, the most appealing aspect of a Treuhand-style agency for Greece is that it will slow down the privatisation process.
"If capital markets know Greece has its back to the wall and will push through sales in the short term of a year or even less, values will be destroyed," he said. "Obviously, they'll get more if they take their time over the next few years."
 
Grecia/ Atene su S&P:Non inseguiamo le "agenzia di speculazione"

Posizione nota: Europa deve creare una sua agenzia di rating



Atene, 4 lug. (TMNews) - Alzate di spalle da Atene sull'ultimo allarme lanciato da una agenzia di rating, Standard & Poor's sul debito greco: "non possiamo certo inseguire le ipotesi e le conclusioni" di questi enti, che un portavoce del governo greco, Ilias Mossialos, ha definito "agenzie di speculazioni" piuttosto che di rating. Già nei mesi passati, con le agenzie che hanno declassato le valutazioni sui titoli di Stato greci a livelli talmente bassi da fare del paese uno di quelli indicati come più a rischio nel mondo, Atene ha più volte accusato questi enti di prestarsi a manovre speculative.

L'ultimo spunto di discordia è giunto stamattina. I mercati non avevano ancora fatto a tempo a tirare il fiato, dopo che nel fine settimana i paesi dell'area euro avevano sbloccato il pagamento di una nuova tranche di aiuti al paese, che subito a sollecitare gli allarmismi è tornata Standard & Poor's: affermando che il meccanismo di partecipazione dei privati ai nuovi aiuti a cui stanno lavorando Unione europea e Fondo monetario internazionale verrebbe "probabilmente" equiparato ad una insolvenza sui pagamenti.

Proprio una delle circostanze che si voleva evitare in questo articolato meccanismo, che vedrebbe gli investitori privati detentori di bond greci, in particolare le banche, partecipare su base volontaria rinnovando a scadenza parte dei loro titoli greci con altri bond a scadenza trentennale, oppure in seconda opzione con bond a cinque anni.

Oggi il portavoce del governo greco non ha voluto commentare l'ultima sparata. "La nostra posizione su queste agenzie è nota, così come gli interventi della Grecia presso la Commissione europea - ha detto - per la creazione di una agenzia di rating europea". Perché tra l'altro uno degli aspetti di questi attriti, tra governi e agenzie, è che tutte e tre queste ultime - oltre a S&P, Moody's e Fitch - sono esterne all'area euro. E se oggi risultano particolarmente sollecite nel declassare i paesi dell'area euro, nel 2008 invece avevano omesso di mettere in guardia dal crack di Lehman Brothers, a cui assegnavano i rating più elevati pochi giorni prima che fallisse. Apparentemente, ogni volta che l'Europa compie qualche passo in grado di attenuare le pressioni di mercato sui bond dei suoi paesi periferici, dalle agenzie giunge qualche sviluppo che riaccende gli allarmismi, con uno scenario che tende a ripetersi. (fonte Afp)
 
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Grecia/ Atene su S&P:Non inseguiamo le "agenzia di speculazione"

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E se oggi risultano particolarmente sollecite nel declassare i paesi dell'area euro, nel 2008 invece avevano omesso di mettere in guardia dal crack di Lehman Brothers, a cui assegnavano i rating più elevati pochi giorni prima che fallisse. Apparentemente, ogni volta che l'Europa compie qualche passo in grado di attenuare le pressioni di mercato sui bond dei suoi paesi periferici, dalle agenzie giunge qualche sviluppo che riaccende gli allarmismi, con uno scenario che tende a ripetersi. (fonte Afp)

Agli USA l'€ non è mai andato giù.
Il loro unico dio è il $.
 
Israel, Greece mark growing ties with joint air force drill

Greek and Israeli air forces hold two-week-long drill as the two countries' ties tighten following Greek government's attempt to halt the Gaza-bound flotilla from departing.

By Anshel Pfeffer



Israel's Air Force on Monday concluded a two-week drill with the Hellenic Air Force as the two nations cemented growing ties between their militaries, recently reflected in Greece's recent move to halt a Gaza-bound flotilla set to depart from its shores. The joint drill was held at Greece's Larisa Air Base, and several elite Israeli squadrons, along with the IDF's elite rescue unit 669 took part in the exercise along with the Greek military.

Over the past few days Greece has been working to stop the pro-Palestinian flotilla from departing to Gaza. On Sunday, the Greek government offered to transport the flotilla's aid to Gaza as a compromise in order to end the affair.
According to the Greek initiative, the humanitarian aid aboard flotilla ships will be loaded onto watercraft of the Greek government and transferred to Gaza via the organized channels, as was requested by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon two weeks ago. This means the aid would go through either the Ashdod port or Arish, and from there be taken to the Gaza Strip under the supervision of Greek and UN authorities.

The Greek government has already approached the United Nations and Israel to assess the possibility of transferring the humanitarian aid via Israel or Egypt to the Gaza Strip using Greek governmental ships, under UN supervision.



(haaretz.com)


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Quadro geostrategico.
 
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ASE



After a four-day upward streak, the General Index of ASE ended above 1,300 units with marginal losses on Monday, in the wake of Eurogroup’s approval of the disbursement of the fifth aid loan tranche to Greece.

Short-term profit-taking moves occurred during the trading session, mainly in banks, with the buying interest offsetting the pressures and leading the banking index in marginally positive territory.


ATEBank’s jump of 19.787% (29.8% intraday) stood out on FTSE20, while MIG, Ellaktor and Hellenic Petroleum suffered severe pressures.
Pegasus Securities comments that the four consecutive upward sessions increase the short-term profit opportunities, limiting the force of bid-side interest, said Pegasus Securities in a report.

The market already counts an upward streak of 80-90 units, which reflect yields of 15-20% in banking shares, Pegasus added.


Market analysts point out that now the market focuses on procedures to finalize the terms of voluntary participation of private institutions in the Greek debt rollover, while the announcement by S&P on the easing repayment terms on Greece΄s sovereign debt has caused concern, as it would amount to a default under the ratings firm΄s criteria.

On the board, the General Index closed at 1,306.45 units, with minor losses of 0.16%, after it moved between profits and losses into a margin of 24 units. On Monday, approximately 25.24 million units worth €77.87 million traded, while a total amount of 69 shares rose, 75 declined and 136 remained unchanged.

Banks ended at 1,029.90 units, with marginal profits of 0.04%. Besides ATEBank; Alpha Bank gained 1.37%, while Hellenic Postbank, and Eurobank declined by 2.06% and 2.02% respectively.


(capital.gr)
 
Agli USA l'€ non è mai andato giù.
Il loro unico dio è il $.

da rimarcare che se scattano i CDS, le banche europee sono tra quelle che ne han comprato e le banche usa sono tra quelle che li han venduti, quindi non andrei a generalizzare nel discorso cattivi americani buoni europei, etc; qui gli interessi sono da tante parti e con tutte le gradazioni di contrapposizione
tra l'laltro le agenzie di rating non fanno grande piacere alle banche americane venditrici di CDS
 
da rimarcare che se scattano i CDS, le banche europee sono tra quelle che ne han comprato e le banche usa sono tra quelle che li han venduti, quindi non andrei a generalizzare nel discorso cattivi americani buoni europei, etc; qui gli interessi sono da tante parti e con tutte le gradazioni di contrapposizione
tra l'laltro le agenzie di rating non fanno grande piacere alle banche americane venditrici di CDS

Non volevo assolutamente fare il discorso buoni/cattivi anche perchè come dici tu in un tale contesto non avrebbe senso.
Teoricamente (e praticamente) la Grecia è già fallita, punto.
Allora come dicevo stamattina o gli dai subito la D o ti stai zitto.
Parlare di rating con la Grecia è come parlare di influenza davanti a un moribondo.
Secondo me le gemelle del rating vengono usate per spostare gli interessi da una parte all'altra (mi pare che recentemente sia stato proprio scoperto un maxi magheggio) ed inoltre in questi anni non è che abbiano aiutato un granchè nelle previsioni.

Penso che se un domani dicessero: vi rimborsiamo noi le obbligazioni greche, i CDS crollerebbero e, probabilmente si avrebbe una crisi opposta.
Quindi anche il salvataggio va "bilanciato" e ad una notizia buona, deve subito seguire quella cattiva.
Opinione personale.
 
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