Obbligazioni societarie HIGH YIELD e oltre, verso frontiere inesplorate - Vol. 1

[fabriziof]

che per qualche mese la banca si è messa a comprarmi di tutto.......il gestore mi tranquillizava ........solo notizie positive......e la storia recente.....kongo....air berlin mi hanno fatto capire che non si trattava di acquistare calcolando il rischio ma fare provvigioni banca.......oltre a capire che la sottoscritta, il gestore, e ufficio titoli a milano non analizzano come fate voi..........grazie

la regola numero 1 è avere una idea sufficientemente chiara di cosa si compra ,se no si rinuncia .e mai fidarsi degli altri ,forum o gestori che siano

 

[fabriziof]

Dal forum tedesco
With coupon funds frozen, Congo heads for Eurobond default: "ABIDJAN/LONDON, July 28 (Reuters) - Republic of Congo appeared headed for a sovereign debt default on Monday after the latest coupon payment on its $363 million Eurobond was frozen amid a decades-old legal dispute over a $1 billion debt to a local construction company. The 30-day grace period for the $21 million payment on the bond maturing in 2029 expires on Sunday. ... While investors will likely await the outcome of a pending court case before taking action ... Investors could also be encouraged by Congo's recent talks with the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which recently agreed programmes with CEMAC-zone neighbours Gabon and Cameroon. ... However, the issue trades around 10 cents below the eurobonds of fellow sub-Saharan nation Mozambique , which is already in default. ..."

Moody's downgrades the Republic of the Congo's rating to Caa2, outlook remains negative: "New York, July 28, 2017 -- Moody's Investors Service has today downgraded the long-term local and foreign currency issuer ratings of the government of the Republic of the Congo (ROC) to Caa2 from B3 and maintained the negative outlook.Concurrently, Moody's has lowered the ROC government's local currency and foreign currency long-term bond and deposit ceilings to B2 from Ba3.
RATINGS RATIONALE
The key drivers behind the two notch rating downgrade to Caa2 from B3 and the change in ceilings are:
1) Moody's expectation that the ROC government will imminently default on its Eurobonds and could remain in default for a protracted period of time
2) Increasingly acute liquidity pressures that could ultimately lead to sizeable losses for private sector creditors in the coming years
The negative outlook reflects the risks that private sector creditors could incur greater losses than are currently anticipated by Moody's Caa2 rating."


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[fabriziof]

xs1503160498 argentina 5% 16/27 ne ho in pf ....sono sotto di 3 punti......non so se anche questo è stato un acquisto (provvigioni banca) senza valutare troppo il rischio........posso cortesemente avere un parere.....se vendessi domani perderei circa 2K.......grazie

Almeno non sono in dollari

 

[impegnativo]

Dollaro a picco...

 

[zoro-aster]

Dollaro a picco...

seguito dal rublo....... non sarà che l`euro va a razzo

 

[veltroni]

Dal forum tedesco
With coupon funds frozen, Congo heads for Eurobond default: "ABIDJAN/LONDON, July 28 (Reuters) - Republic of Congo appeared headed for a sovereign debt default on Monday after the latest coupon payment on its $363 million Eurobond was frozen amid a decades-old legal dispute over a $1 billion debt to a local construction company. The 30-day grace period for the $21 million payment on the bond maturing in 2029 expires on Sunday. ... While investors will likely await the outcome of a pending court case before taking action ... Investors could also be encouraged by Congo's recent talks with the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which recently agreed programmes with CEMAC-zone neighbours Gabon and Cameroon. ... However, the issue trades around 10 cents below the eurobonds of fellow sub-Saharan nation Mozambique , which is already in default. ..."

Moody's downgrades the Republic of the Congo's rating to Caa2, outlook remains negative: "New York, July 28, 2017 -- Moody's Investors Service has today downgraded the long-term local and foreign currency issuer ratings of the government of the Republic of the Congo (ROC) to Caa2 from B3 and maintained the negative outlook.Concurrently, Moody's has lowered the ROC government's local currency and foreign currency long-term bond and deposit ceilings to B2 from Ba3.
RATINGS RATIONALE
The key drivers behind the two notch rating downgrade to Caa2 from B3 and the change in ceilings are:
1) Moody's expectation that the ROC government will imminently default on its Eurobonds and could remain in default for a protracted period of time
2) Increasingly acute liquidity pressures that could ultimately lead to sizeable losses for private sector creditors in the coming years
The negative outlook reflects the risks that private sector creditors could incur greater losses than are currently anticipated by Moody's Caa2 rating."


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Non riesco a tradurre ma mi sembra di capire che le cose si mettono male , dico bene ?

 

[fedro10]

Non riesco a tradurre ma mi sembra di capire che le cose si mettono male , dico bene ?

si spera nel FMI

 

[fabriziof]

si spera nel FMI

e cosa può fare?

 

[fedro10]

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[fabriziof]

io amo i coupon stellari ,oggi il 12,5% di cognor,forse l'ultimo