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link al quale ci si può rifare se si vuole organizzare una scala su una qualsiasi commoditie, nel nostro caso ci si può divertire organizzando una scala su 5 livelli sul caffè a intervalli di 3cents, questi i valori da mettere negli spazi :
commodity name : coffee
start price : 60
margin for contract: 1800
profit/loss for unit: 375
scale decrement : 3
total scale levels: 5
contracts for level: 1
per divertirsi mettere il tutto nel calcolatore al : http://www.scaletraders.com/scaletrader.html
 

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E alla fine ierinotte è uscito il rapporto previsivo sul raccolto brasilero 2003/4 che è risultato essere all'interno del range quantitativo che ci si aspettava, anche se c'è qualche sospetto sui numeri dati visto che le stime per il raccolto 2002/3 differiscono abbastanza da quelle fatte dall'USDA e da altri analisti.

Brazilian 2003-04 coffee crop seen down 37 percent
BRASILIA (December 20 2002) : Brazil's 2003/04 (July/June) coffee crop is seen at a maximum of 29.73 million 60-kg bags, down 37 percent from the current crop's bumper 47.27 million bags, the Agriculture Ministry said on Thursday.

Drought in October, the flowering period of next year's crop; pruning; and stress on trees caused by the super crop this year should combine to create a smaller output during next harvest, the ministry said.

The arabica crop was seen falling to a maximum of 20.50 million bags, down 45 percent from last year's 37.35 million bags, while the robusta crop, know locally as conillon, was seen at up to 9.22 million bags compared with 9.92 million bags from the current crop.

In the final calculation of the 2002/03 crop, the ministry revised up the current crop estimate to 47.27 million bags from the previous forecast in June this year of 44.69 million bags.

Brazil is the world's largest coffee producer and exporter. Trade and independent analysts' forecasts for the new crop range from 30 million to 35 million bags.-Reuters

Trade sceptical of low Brazilian coffee figure
NEW YORK (December 20 2002) : Brazil's official forecast for the 2003/04 (July/June) coffee crop came in at 29.73 million 60-kg bags, in the lower end of industry estimates, but traders here are sceptical of the figure's accuracy.

In the same report released on Thursday, the government revised its estimate of the 2002/03 crop upward to 47.27 million bags from 44.69 million in their previous forecast.

"While the absolute numbers seem bullish enough, the Brazilian government forecast seems to be on the low side with the 2002/03 crop estimate showing slippage of 4 to 5 million bags," said Judy Ganes, softs analyst with J. Ganes Consulting LLC.

The world coffee markets have been eagerly awaiting the forecast by the world's biggest producer and exporter and the numbers were widely expected to show a sharp fall in production.

Traders and analysts had put the 2003/04 crop in a range from 26 million 60-kg bags to 35 million bags, down from the revised government figure of 47.27 million bags for 2002/03.

Analysts said they expected a downturn in output due to the biennial production cycle with stressed trees from the recent bumper crop, drought and heat, and reduced fertiliser application reducing yields.

"This forecast reflects the hot temperatures and low humidity spell during the flowering period," said Christian Wolthers, vice president of Blaser & Wolthers Speciality Coffee Trading Co in Plantation, Florida.

One trader said that the 2003/04 crop estimate of just under 30 million bags was "politically correct" with various unofficial estimates circulating in recent days.

"But that estimate of only 47.27 million bags for 2002/03 just kills their credibility. Everybody puts the crop somewhere north of 50 million bags," they added.

Ganes explained it was hard for the market to accept these figures as accurate with Brazil's 2002/03 crop off some much from the UDSA number of nearly 52 million bags and local analysts Safras e Mercado at 50.15 million bags.

"I think it is unrealistic to expect a 45-percent drop in arabica production," said Ganes referring to a 20.50 million bag estimate versus the previous year's 37.35 million bag figure.

Ahead of the release of the report, the nearby March coffee contract fell 1.05 cents to 61.55 cents per lb on Thursday, the lower end of a 61.10-62.85 cents range.-Reuters

hursday December 19th 2002, 3:00 PM
ODJ CSCE Coffee Review: 3-Day Low; Industry Buying Curbs Decline



-- Brazil's Pegs 2003-04 Crop At 27.7 Million To 29.7 Million Bags
-- Brazilian Forecast Slightly Below Trade Estimates For Crop
-- Mountain Of Old Crop To Get Through

By Susan Buchanan

New York, Dec. 19 (OsterDowJones) - Arabica coffee futures touched three- day lows on the Coffee, Sugar & Cocoa Exchange Thursday as funds and locals sold, while industry buying blunted the decline.

Mar settled 105 points lower at 61.55c a pound and May ended down 100 points at 63.95c.

"Funds did a little selling, locals sold, and stops were touched at 61.50c in Mar," a floor broker said. "There were some options-related selling.

"Trade and industry were good buyers on the way down and Mar held above 61.00c," he continued. "Volume wasn't heavy.

"Roasters wouldn't be buying the way they've been if they thought the market was going much lower," he said. "Earlier in the year, they let it drift down to their levels."

Mar touched a session high of 62.85c on the open and retreated, losing 150 points to 61.10c in late action. Industry was buying at the lower levels and locals covered shorts.

Futures volume was estimated at 6,844 lots. In the options ring, 1,871 calls and 1,289 puts traded.

After the close, Brazil's National Commodities Supply (Conab) put the nation's 2003-04 crop at 27.72 million to 29.73 million bags in its first forecast of the season. That was slightly below prevailing trade estimates of 30 million to 35 million bags and well below the last harvest.

"It's hard to say how the market will react to Brazil's new-crop number," the floor broker said. "They're saying the crop is small, but we expected the government to come in below the trade.

"Central America and other places also have smaller crops, so coffee will be tighter later next year."

The market has a pile of coffee from the last Brazilian harvest to work through first, however. Conab raised its Brazilian old-crop estimate to 47.26 million bags from 44.69 million bags. And two weeks ago, the U.S. Department of Agriculture estimated that crop at 51.6 million bags.

But quality problems exist with a lot of coffee that's available now, including Colombian and Central American origins that many roasters need, traders said.

Brazil's small new crop is blamed on the tree-bearing cycle, reduced input use, and a dry winter and partly dry spring in Minas Gerais and Sao Paulo. Minas Gerais, the top state, is expected to produce 11.43 million to 12.23 million bags, against the previous year's 24.64 million.

Brazilian exports from Dec. 1 to 16 totaled 840,269 60-kilogram bags, above 763,611 bags in the same November period, according to Cecafe, the Brazilian Green Coffee Exporters Council.

Chart support for CSCE Mar lies at 61.10c to 61.00c, 60.50c, 60.00c, 59.50c, 59.00c and 58.40c. Resistance is found at 62.85c to 63.00c, 63.20c, 63.80c to 64.00c, and a gap at 65.00c to 65.50c, traders said.


Settlement prices in cents/pound, dollars/metric ton
CSCE Change Range Liffe Change
Mar 61.55 dn 1.05 61.10-62.85 Jan 767 dn 8
May 63.95 dn 1.00 63.50-65.10 Mar 788 dn 7
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In attese di nuove stime sul raccolto brasiliano 2003/4 si cerca di trovare nuovi temi sul mercato del caffè

CSCE coffee ends firmer, Brazil crop called non-event
NEW YORK (December 21 2002) : CSCE coffee futures finished firmer Friday in thin activity in the first day of trading after top grower Brazil's first estimate for its key 2003/04 crop, analysts and brokers said.

"Brazil was a non-event. Now that the market has accepted a lower 2003/04 crop, it will be searching out for the next driver to move prices," said Judy Ganes, commodities specialist with J. Ganes Consulting, LLC referring to the release of Brazil's estimate on Thursday of its oncoming crop.

On Thursday top grower Brazil released its official estimate for the 2003/04 (July/June) coffee crop.

The government figure came in at 29.73 million 60-kg bags, in the lower end of industry estimates.

The government also made an upward revision to its estimate of the 2002/03 crop to 47.27 million bags from 44.69 million in their prior forecast.

The nearby March arabica closed up 0.65 cent at 62.20 cents a lb after trading 61.05-62.50 cents.

May added 0.55 cent to 64.50 cents and the rest rose 0.15-0.50 cent.

Despite the importance of Brazil as the largest producer and exporter of coffee, and the complexity in estimating a tree crop that covers a huge area, traders took the number in stride.

In London, robusta prices closed lower Friday on speculative selling and light producer hedging while roaster buying beneath the market supported prices.

March robusta coffee ended down $7 at $780 per tonne after trading a $776-$792 range.

Technicians see next support in March at 61.05 and then 60.50 cents.

Resistance is seen at 62.50 and then in the 63.20-63.60 cents area.

Estimated volume slowed to 6,088 contracts Friday from Thursday's official tally of 6,844 lots.

Call volume amounted to 1,416 lots and puts came to 1,435 lots.

Open interest dipped a slight 25 contracts to 67,447 lots as of Thursday.-Reuters




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Phantom of the Pits
by Art Simpson

Chapter 5 - Rule One



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When the subject of why it was so important to write this insight, the remark was always, catch me at the right time for that answer. I remember as a child playing out that situation, as it was better to get my Dad to agree to something when the mood was correct.

When gathering Phantom's insight on the reasons of this book it wasn't clear until I caught him at the right time. It was after a big move in the grains.

ALS - Phantom, I see you agree on the subject today and I need to know just why is this particular time the right time on your reasons for this book?

Phantom - This day is an example of the reason for this book. The grain market did a total surprise on most traders. Oh there were those who were fortunate to be on the right side but most of them took their positions off too soon. I wanted to discuss the shock most traders get on a day like today.

A great number of traders got what we call killed today in the grain market. Most all the new traders are now wondering what they did wrong today. There isn't anything they did right today because they most likely don't know what the right thing is. I don't mean that all traders are in the dark.

I am talking about those who fail to understand what to do and if they do don't carry out that requirement. I am going to express the importance of doing the right thing from the beginning of a trade and at the right time.

Many traders and most new traders aren't even aware that the market can do what it did to them today. I have often said that the BIG money is on the surprise side. I should perhaps have said the Big losers are on the familiar side or the popular side of a trade. I call that the expected side.

Today gave us several reasons for a surprise. Those being that harvest pressure is strong and this is a day you expect there to be more selling by the producer than normal. Expecting prices to be pressured by hedging and seasonal influence is the correct way to trade in most minds.

You can't argue with probabilities. It is not what the trader does with his trades until the market starts a big move like today's which separates the big winners and big losers. There were more big losers today than big winners.

There are traders who because of today can't make their next months car payment or their house payment now. It just didn't ever occur to them that what happened today was even a possibility. They were over positioned even though they thought they had a good protection plan.

They used stops ok but they forgot to tell the broker to place the order. Everything they did was based on their thoughts of how much they could take out of the market today. Their trades are designed to lose but not because of the good traders or the way the market works but by their own hand. The worst part is that they don't even know it was at their own hands.

It is sad anytime a person's heart gets pulled from their dreams but even worse when they lose money too. Sometimes they lose a fortune in such a little period of time. It has happened to every trader. It happened to me when I was smarter than the market. Why does it happen? Mostly because a trader's plan doesn't consider what if I am wrong. Their thoughts are always expecting to be right.

Herein is the key to being a successful trader. I have learned this over and over again in my trading career. I haven't found one trader to tell me what I am going to tell you. The reason for our agreement to give something back is that all of these BIG losers are doomed from the start unless they are given the knowledge of what the market can do to them. The blame is within their own responsibility and not anyone else's fault.

Six months ago we started our journey in presenting one of the most successful sides to a market strategy. On the forum there have been exceptional traders who have read the information I gave and not understand the simplicity of what I said. We will have a better exposure of presenting the same information in this writing.

I never want to see a homeless person and always wonder how they became homeless. If traders aren't aware of what the market can do against them as well as for them they will head in that direction. Many homeless people I have talked with have had bad luck.

In most of our lives we will experience an evening out of luck. In trading if you have bad luck you will eventually have to stop trading. To be prepared for that bad luck is a requirement in trading. You will not survive if you do not plan for bad luck. My first steps in trading remove the bad luck altogether.

ALS - I know what you are going with here. Should we put this in red letters and double the size of the print here?

POP - Yes, I think that would be proper but traders must discover for themselves what I am telling them. It will save them from an outcome, which they never discover, until it is upon them. So let us not over emphasize the most important point of any trading plan here as we will drill it into their plan until they survive at all cost in trading.

There are those who in a modified way do exactly as I suggest but may consider it more money management than a plan for trading positions. Every broker tries to limit a customer's exposure and protect them but the key word is limit. Putting a limit on something infers that you actually can put a limit on exposure when having a position established. You really only have a ballpark limit in most cases. It seems to be worse than thought in looking back.

I shall present two main rules in trading of which both are required to be successful. Every trading plan must start with the understanding of these rules. Before I give the first rule it is important that what we say is understood correctly. Next it is important to have this rule become second nature in all of your trades. The second rule I shall state and explain after the first is adapted into behavior modification by the traders reading this.

I need to ask you a few questions to better present my rule number one. When the walk light comes on, assume there is traffic which will run the red light at each intersection you cross. What do you do now before you cross the intersection?

ALS - I would double check and look both ways before crossing.

POP - Of course that is the correct answer and you know what I am after. Now just because you looked both ways before you crossed and each time you cross you looked both ways, and there wasn't ever any traffic, which ran the stoplight, is there reason to stop looking at each intersection? Your answer of course is no you won't stop looking.

What kind of limits did I just give you? Are they life saving limits before you cross the intersection? Yes, they certainly might be but you will never know that if you follow the restriction each time you cross the intersection. You can't know if it saved your life for you prevented it by looking each time. But what if you don't look and you lost your life. You certainly won't know you should have looked either.

Does the restriction tell you that if you look there will never be any traffic run the stoplight? No. Does your experience of crossing and looking tell you what the probability of someone running the light will be?

You can make an assumption based on you knowledge at this point. What does an assumption do? It actually presents criteria based on proven facts which are a possibility. It in no way gives you a high probability or low probability but the best answer you can present.

I don't want to lose you in this thinking but to point out that it's the same in trading as in crossing an intersection. We need to make our best assumption of what is possible. We must plan for that assumption in trading as long as it is a possibility and not just when it is probable. This is a very important point in understanding rule 1 correctly!

If you were never to look at the intersection until proven wrong for not looking, wouldn't it be too late? It is the same in trading. You must protect yourself from any possibility in trading and not just protecting yourself when the probabilities are high. This will be the surprise side in trading.

The surprise side is a possible outcome but not a very high or likely probability like today's grain trade. When someone gives you a gift, you are surprised by it. Getting that gift was not a high probability. However, you are prepared for that surprise because you say Thank You!

Most traders plan only for the probability side and that to them is always what they consider the winning side. This is the biggest mistake you can make in trading. You must plan for the losing side.

How you understand your plan is how you will react to a situation. You must learn that when you are told not to do something in trading, it is not ever the same thing, as saying you must do the opposite.

I often get feedback telling me I told someone to do what I never said. As an example I will tell you not to sell beans today. Would you tell me I told you to buy beans today? It's not funny because most traders would. This is what I mean by correctly.

We have covered assumption and correctly in my terms of what I expect you to understand in the first rule and second rule. If you don't have those correct you will not be able to fully understand and accept the two rules for trading required in all plans.

ALS - Let me get this straight! When you say to not do something you are never telling me I must do the opposite. Seems simple enough. Thanks for making that point by example.

On your meaning when you say assume, you are telling me there is a possibility or probability based on some fact of the situation which requires me to acknowledge and always have a plan for the possibility or surprise side in trading.

Your meaning of the surprise side of trading is the side, which presents the possibility but not the highest probability. Am I correct on this?

POP - It really is quite simple. After our dialogue it will be more clear to the traders as to how to interpret our rules. I don't want any misunderstanding. I say with a high probability that the readers will read again our dialogue.

We often don't understand how news stories get out of context but it can be done pretty easily. Lack of proper assumption is a routine by Lawyers a lot of the time. They'll ask someone something like who is in the picture and when they find out it was the defendant their next question is were you there when the picture was taken.

In their case it might be proper for information gathering but you as a trader must have proper assumptions as you can not know exactly how a market is going to react each day.

Trading is not a favorable game in most circumstances and that is what we must use as our assumption in trading. The big mistake made by traders is thinking and expecting trading to be a favorable game.

You have execution costs or slippage when getting in and out of a position as well as commissions as a cost factor to be subtracted from your winnings or added to your losses. The market spends much time in an unpredictable mode. Trends both short and long term do exist but not one hundred percent of the time.

The correct way to control positions is to only hold them once they prove to be correct. Let the market tell you your position is proven correct but never let the market tell you that your position is wrong. You as a good trader must always be in command of knowing and telling yourself when your position is bad.

The market will tell you when your position is a good one to hold. Most trader do the opposite of what is correct by removing positions only when proven wrong. Think about that. Your exposure and risk is much higher if you let the market prove you wrong instead of your actions removing positions systematically unless or until the market proves your position correct.

Let me give you an example before we state the first rule. Today let us say you sold beans just like your plan said to do at 630 on the open. If that position did not prove you correct you must in order to reduce risk remove it. You decide what is correct according to your plan. (Example) let us say you expected hedging to come in early and the price to drop from 5 to 8 cents in the first hour.

It didn't even drop 3 cents so you remove the position. Say you removed it at 629. Just because it showed a profit of 1 cent when you got out did not declare it a good position. However, your exit is a better exit than if you made the market tell you the position was wrong. When you remove the position because the market proved you wrong, it is always a higher loss and on stops it is usually with higher slippage also.

This is not the same as removing the position because the market proved you wrong say buying back at 645 on a 642 stop. By making the market prove you correct in order to hold a position is acknowledging that trading is a losers game and not a winners game. If you only remove your position because the market proves you wrong you are acknowledging that trading is a winners game.

You never want to be in a position, which is never proven correct. If you only get out when the market proves you wrong it is possible to have higher risk due to the longer time period required to prove your position wrong. We will further clarify these thought for you further into the book.

Here is rule number one!



RULE NUMBER ONE



IN A LOSING GAME SUCH AS TRADING, WE SHALL START AGAINST THE MAJORITY AND ASSUME - WE ARE WRONG UNTIL PROVEN CORRECT! (We do not assume we are correct until proven wrong.) POSITIONS ESTABLISHED MUST BE REDUCED AND REMOVED UNTIL OR UNLESS THE MARKET PROVES THE POSITION CORRECT! (We allow the market to verify correct positions.)

In rule 1 it is important to understand we are saying the one criteria for removing a position is because it has not been proven correct. We at no time use as criteria for removing a position the fact that the market proved the position incorrect. There is a big difference here as to how we treat all positions from what most traders use. If the market does not prove the position correct, it is still possible that the market has not proven the position wrong.

If you wait until the market proves the position wrong you are wasting time, money and effort in continuing to hope it is correct when it isn't. How many traders ever hoped it wouldn't be proved wrong instead of hoping it was correct? If you are hoping it is correct it obviously wasn't ever proven to be correct.

Remove the position early if it doesn't prove correct. By waiting until a position is proved wrong you are asking for more slippage as you will be in the same situation as everyone getting the same message.

What makes this strategy more comfortable is that you must take action without exception if the market does not prove the position correct. Most traders do it the opposite by doing nothing unless they get stopped out and then it isn't their decision to get out at all as it is the markets decision to get you out. Your thinking should be - when your position is right you have to do nothing instead of doing nothing when you are wrong!

I don't mean to repeat and repeat but in this case you will better understand the more you read it. It is very critical in your success in trading. Over time it has proven to be the rule which keeps the losses small and keeps a trader swift and fast to take that loss. A person thinking when the market proves a bad trade is counter to what is productive.

By using the rule properly you are productive and don't have to face the demoralizing affect of the market when you have a proven wrong position. This enables you to continue to trade with the proper frame of mind. You are more objective in your trading this way than letting a negative re-enforce your thinking. This way you only let good trading re-enforce your thinking and actions.

ALS - Phantom, Not everyone is going to agree with your first rule. There will be traders who don't feel this is a good rule for them.

POP - Look at it like you would buy a new car. The dealer says you can drive the car which you think you want for a month and we will give you credit toward another car if you don't want to keep it. Ok after a week you decide you don't want this car because it just isn't right for you. You take it back and the dealer says you only owe eighty dollars for rental.

You don't buy the car and keep it until it proves to be the wrong car for you, which could be months from now. If you did you would lose more of what you would have to pay for the car. Most traders keep their position until it proves to be wrong for them. I say don't keep any position unless it proves to be correct.

ALS - Yes, but who is to say a position which was not proven correct turns from a bad position to a correct position?

POP - That is the kind of thinking most traders have. They fear being wrong when they get out and that the market will show them they should have stayed with the position. If they don't take early losses it becomes more difficult to take a loss as it gets larger. However, the market assumption you must make is that big losses will eventually take you out of trading.

My rule one is to address the swiftness needed in keeping your losses as small and quick as possible. It won't always prove to be correct but you will stay in the game this way.

Which would you chose? You have an opportunity of a ten- percent probability of making money in the long run if you take a position until you have lost ten- percent of your equity or made ten percent. Or take the opportunity to have a ninety-percent probability of making money if you only keep a position for three hours unless they have proven to be correct by that time. It is pretty clear which choice you would make.

It is that most traders don't know what their choices are when it comes to assumptions of what is possible in trading. Keep in mind that traders are usually unaware that trading is a loser's game. He who loses best will win in the end!

Why not make a time proven decision to change your behavior to trade the method, which gives you the best long-term outlook. Trading is not gambling! Treat it as a business where you only want the best merchandise for the shortest possible time in order to have the maximum profit with the least possible chance of failure. That is what rule one does for you.

ALS - I can see the need for much discussion and review on your first rule.

Phantom - It's critical to have rule one in force by next surprise day. The one thing, which teaches most traders to take a small loss, is a big loss.

ALS - Yes, but that is expensive behavior modification. My wife, Karen just gave another parallel example of your rule one. She points out that you don't go buy clothes, take them home and wear them until they prove to be wrong for you. Instead you try them on and make sure the have a proper fit and look before you buy them. I like her thoughts along this line.

POP - You can see in ordinary life you try and spend the least amount of money and have the least amount of waste. Why should you do it differently in trading?

ALS - The answer is surely that in trading there are human elements which take over. Everyone knows them and most likely have come face to face with them. They are fear and greed.

POP - We must remove the emotional element as quickly as possible in trading. If you can do it before you put a position on, you have a good start.

Note: In order to give some insight on Phantom's rule #1 several traders have indicated their experience with it as presented on the traders forum. The following is a copy from one such trader.

Author: M T

email:

An anecdote about Rule #1

I've read phantom's postings about rule #1. The price action must confirm the position or get out quick. What I have done in trading is to enter a position, and have a chart position that is a good spot to exit if price moves adversely. This would usually either be the previous swing point, which if violated would be a signal for possible new trend and would definitely be the signal for me to exit my position, or the first 15 minute high (resistance) and low (support), if it was violated adverse to my position.

So that meant that there were times when I entered a position and the price action was flat or slightly adverse but not so adverse as to violate my predetermined chart exit position.

I would stay in because there was no violation. I thought this meant I was following rule #1. I was staying in, not because the price action "confirmed" my position, but because the price action did not "confirm" my stop loss chart signal. I was thinking that this is what Phantom means. I have to tell you that with this strategy I was keeping my losses small, just by the nature of my plan.

But I was unwittingly violating Phantom's rule #1. I thought I had modified my behavior but in reality I was "behaving" incorrectly. It's a very subtle thing, I believe.

Then, last night, in a restless sleep thinking about my trading, an inspiration came to me.

(don't laugh too hard). A lot of my losses had come after I had been in a trade for an hour or longer, where price action was mostly flat, but my stop point was never touched. I realized I would have been better off if I had just gotten out in the first 15 minutes. It would have been a loss, but it would not have been as much of a loss as my chart stop point would give me.

Then I realized that is what Phantom means. My position was not confirmed in those first 15 minutes! It wasn't violated according to the nuances of my plan but it also was NOT confirmed. Get out.

Well, low and behold I went back over the last 3 months of trading and using the exact entry points (fills) that I used every day and reviewed what would have happened if I had followed this 15-30 minute confirmation rule. Let's just say it made a huge difference. I know backtesting is not completely reliable but it was significant.

Anyway, thanks Phantom. I'm still learning. I'm still here trading. Started with only a 5K account, daytrading, and I'm still alive w/o following your rules even. I'm below breakeven. Let's see if I can change that. I'll keep you filled in. Once again, many thanks. You once asked for rule #1 stories. Well, there is mine.

Cheers

Note: The following is an excerpt from a message which Phantom had presented to help understand rule 1.

Behavior modification is knowing the limits. Let us use basketball shooting as an example. Say you shoot and see after 1000 shots you average less than 50% baskets made. This means you have a better chance of missing than hitting. With practice let us say you now hit 55% of your shots. You would expect to say when you shoot that you have a better chance now that the shot will go in than not. Same in trading, you must know what the limits are!

In trading most of you have a greater chance of being wrong than right! Trade accordingly which means expect the limit (being wrong more likely) in your trading.

How can you come out ahead? In the short run you can only with luck but in the long run luck tends to evens back the other way. You must trade in the long run! So what is a trader to do in a losing game? You must trade in the long run!

How can you trade in the long run? Only way I know is that you must keep your losses small and take more small losses than small winners to come out ahead. This often means washing a position for the sake of being able to keep in the game.

Theorem being now to assume your position is wrong until the market proves what you positioned is correct. Keep your losses quick and small. Don't ever let the market tell you you're wrong. Always let the market tell you when your position is correct.

It is your job to know you are wrong and not the markets job.

The other side of the coin is that you will get positions, which are correct. You must be bigger at that time. This will require a rule 2, which is designed around adding to winners in an unfavorable game to come out ahead in the long run. When you are correct, you must continue to use rule 1 to keep losses small.

It's ok to be wrong small but never ok to be wrong big if you expect to trade in the long run. Trading is not easy. Most traders just let the market do its thing. The correct way is that you do your thing and control your positioning. You control you positions by using rules, which keep you in the game. Rule 1 is the most important rule in any trade plan. Rule 2 will be the other side of the coin, which must be dealt with if you are expecting to remain in the game in the long run.

Learn to be wrong, fast.

"IN A LOSING GAME SUCH AS TRADING, WE SHALL START AGAINST THE MAJORITY AND ASSUME - WE ARE WRONG UNTIL PROVEN CORRECT! (We do not assume we are correct until proven wrong.) POSITIONS ESTABLISHED MUST BE REDUCED AND REMOVED UNTIL OR UNLESS THE MARKET PROVES THE POSITION CORRECT! (We allow the market to verify correct positions.)"
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apertura prevista invariata a NY sulla falsariga di Londra


CSCE Coffee Pre-Open: Called Unchanged; London Up Slightly


-- Funds Trimmed Longs Considerably, Commitments Show

By Susan Buchanan
New York, Dec. 23 (OsterDowJones) - Arabica coffee futures are called to
open unchanged on the Coffee, Sugar & Cocoa Exchange Monday while the London
robusta market is slightly higher, traders said.
CSCE prices rose Friday, recovering after the market broke Thursday's lows
in early action.
Funds trimmed longs considerably in the week ended Tuesday and added to
shorts, Friday's commitments showed. Funds stood net long 3,475 lots, while
small speculators were long 7,012 lots and commercials were short 10,487 lots.
Good buying from roasters, trade houses and speculators lies below the
market at 60.00c in Mar, according to traders.
Chart support for CSCE Mar lies at 61.00c, 60.50c, 60.00c, 59.50c, and
59.00c and 58.40c. Resistance is found at 62.50c, 62.85c to 63.00c, 63.20c,
63.80c to 64.00c, and a gap at 65.00c to 65.50c, traders said.

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Fleursdumal

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Giornata con volumi ridotti ieri con i locals in pressione in vendita che hanno cercato di raggiungere gli stop posti intorno ai 60,5cents ma con l'industria a comprare e a sostenere il mercato sui minimi intraday

CSCE coffee ends lower as locals sell in quiet trade
NEW YORK (December 24 2002) : CSCE coffee futures closed lower Monday as local selling overcame some early buying by some smaller commodity funds, brokers said.

"A few funds did some early buying but that didn't last. The locals were pretty much behind the decline, looking to try to reach sell stops under 60.50 cents (on March)," said one commission house broker.

CSCE active March arabica ended down 0.75 cent at 61.45 cents a lb after trading 60.75-62.40 cents.

May shed 0.65 cent to 63.85 cents and all the back months fell the same.

"There isn't much to say about today. It takes volume to push a market up and today all you saw was gravity.

Things are likely to be worse on Tuesday and Friday," said a trader.

In London, robusta prices closed mixed in active turnover.

Liffe March finished $1 firmer at $781 per tonne after trading a $779-$786 range. January closed unchanged at $760.

Coffee prices have moved sideways since Thursday when Brazil's estimate of 29.73 million 60-kg bags for its 2003/04 crop was released.

Even though the market now has an initial crop forecast to work with, traders still watched the weather in Brazil's coffee belt.

Rains will arrive in Brazil's southern coffee belt on Tuesday, intensifying as they pass north over the main growing state of Minas Gerais later in the week, local meteorologist Somar said Monday.

"We are after the flowering and the Brazilian crop is recovering with good rains the first three weeks of December," said Craig Solberg, meteorologist with Freeze-Notis Weather of Des Moines, Iowa.

Technicians see support in March in the 60.75-60.50 area, with resistance at 62.50 and then in the 63.20-63.60 cents area.

Estimated volume slowed to just 3,755 contracts Monday from Friday's official tally of 6,088 lots. Call volume amounted to 1,138 lots and puts came to 638 lots.

Open interest increased 328 contracts to 67,775 lots as of Friday.-Reuters
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DJ GWS Global Ag weather Watch-dec 23

BRAZIL: A cold front will slowly move across the country this week, bringing showers and thunderstorms to most of the growing districts. The frontal boundary will eventually stall across central Brazil late in the week, producing another round of frequent and oftentimes heavy showers in the northern soybean districts.

COLOMBIA: Drier weather will linger across Colombia this week, allowing the ongoing coffee harvest to continue with little delay.
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Fleursdumal ha scritto:
DJ GWS Global Ag weather Watch-dec 23

Non avendo niente di meglio da fare, questo pomeriggio uggioso di natale, con le figlie dormienti (finalmente...) e la moglie pure, dopo aver bevuto il 4° caffè da stamattina, mi sono letto , anzi , ho tentato di leggere le 4 pagine di questo post dedicato alla mia commodity preferita..
Devo ammettere che essendo buona parte del post scritto in inglese, dalla prima pagina sono subito corso all'ultima; e dove mi ritrovo il prezzo del Future sul Coffee Arabica?? Dal 4 dic. che era a 70 ora è intorno a 60!!! Se uno avesse preso posizione allora, adesso dovrebbe avere i nervi ben saldi, grazie al caffè!! Ma, a parte l'ironia, forse a questo prezzo, ben vicino al suo minimo storico, potrebbe essere interessante prendere una posizione long. Daltronde, e non sto a controllare se ciò sia già stato detto da Fleurs., il coffee è la commodity + trattata al mondo per volumi, dopo, naturalmente l'oil; e scusate se è poco...! Ora, con l'oil a 30$ al barile o giù di lì, il Gold ai massimi storici, perchè proprio il nostro amato coffee dev'essere così in basso?? Ma questo è un discorso da profano; passo con piacere il mouse a chi + di me se ne intende!!
 

Fleursdumal

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Ciao mtb, il caffè è sui suoi minimi assoluti perchè ne è stato prodotto troppo e l'offerta ha superato di gran lunga la domanda , che pur in tutto il mondo è in crescita di circa il 3,5% annuo. Eh sì , se uno avesse comprato un contratto a 70cents adesso avrebbe sul groppone un loss di 3750$ (1cent =375$) , poi devo correggerti sul fatto che il coffee sia la commoditie più scambiata dopo il petrolio, ce ne sono molte altre che scambiano di più tipo il grano, il mais, il cotone , lo zucchero etc
Grafichetto riepilogativo degli ultimi giorni di trattazione dell'anno, da notare che alla fine son andati a prendersi gli stop che si erano individuati , o meglio che i locals, i floor traders,avevano scoperto in essere sui 60,50 cents !
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