T-Bronx5Y-10Y-Bund .. la notte dei morti viventi (vm18)

Ditro oggi porta a casa una parte ed è contento .... :) :)

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Short su Roussel + 3040 € netti
short su mini-DJ + 2529 € netti
short su dax con le opzioni : +6555 € - 2375 € (vecchie put su novembre bruciate) - 200 € (commissioni) = + 3980 € netti

tot = 3040 + 2529 + 3980 = + 9549 € netti

... un doveroso ringaziamento al CBOT, CME ed EUREX che anche questo mese pagano lo stipendio ! :D :)

... il resto provo a tenerlo, si sà mai che questa sia la volta buona che stornano veramente ... se va bene tanto meglio, altrimenti si continua a scalare gli short. ;)

Rimango con 4 short roussel e 6 short mini-DJ.

Sera a tutta la bbanda. :) :)
 
dan24 ha scritto:
che fai giri il dito nella piaga? :sad:

no
dan, non c'entra niente la previsione con le operazioni
ne abbiam parlato venerdì e stamattina
se in corso decidi diversamente, è ok...
meglio essere fuori e invidiare chi è dentro che essere dentro e invidiare chi è fuori

per me 39700 è l'area in cui entrare
ma entro 3gg torna su comunque :rolleyes: per me :ops:
 
1385 :V
il T-Bronx ha dato grande dimostrazione di forza , recuperando sia i 113 che i 113,5 : solo effetto flight to quality?
oggi giornata di rollaggio




U.S. Treasuries edge higher as stocks tumble
Mon Nov 27, 2006

By Zubin Jelveh

NEW YORK, Nov 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Treasuries were slightly higher on Monday as a sharp drop in stocks supported bond prices while traders prepared for a slew of key economic data and Federal Reserve speakers later this week.

U.S. stocks dropped sharply on Monday with major indices posting their largest falls in four months after a disappointing sales forecast from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and concern shares of Google Inc. (GOOG.O: Quote, Profile, Research) may be overvalued. The weakness in equities sent some investors into the relative safety of bonds.



"It looks a like a flight to quality from equities," said Don Kowalchik, a debt strategist at A.G. Edwards & Sons in St. Louis.

Benchmark 10-year Treasury notes <US10YT>_were trading 3/32 higher in price for a yield of 4.55 percent compared with 4.56 percent late on Friday. Bond prices and yields move inversely.

Bond prices had earlier been down as investors prepared for the possibility that the data deluge this week could derail a month-long rally.

While Monday was a light day for market-moving news, activity was guaranteed to pick up with data on home sales, consumer confidence, and the Fed's favorite gauge of inflation -- the core personal consumption expenditures (PCE) price index.

Bond prices were also under some selling pressure ahead of auctions of new debt this week. Traders often move to cheapen bond prices ahead of new debt sales.
"Given that the market is still trading at relatively lofty price levels -- low yield levels -- we are seeing people getting set up for the auctions and a little bit of profit taking," said Mary Ann Hurley, vice president of fixed-income trading at D.A. Davidson & Co. in Seattle.

Bond prices have been rallying for a month, and yields falling, on general expectations slower economic growth could spur the Fed to cut official interest rates next year.

The Treasury will auction $20 billion of two-year notes on Tuesday and $14 billion of five-year notes on Wednesday.

Government bonds got a boost on Friday as a plunge in the dollar triggered a flight to safety away from U.S. stocks, although price moves were exaggerated in thin volume as trade was limited to a half-day session following the Thanksgiving holiday.


"Global bond markets are giving back part of Friday's rally today and Treasuries could have a rough week despite co-operative data as we have a slate of Fed speakers on tap, some of whom are hawkish ... and $34 billion of new bond supply to digest," said David Rosenberg, North American economist at Merrill Lynch.

Among the highlights of the many Fed speakers this week will be a speech on the economic outlook from Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke on Tuesday, which could give some clues to Fed thinking ahead of the central bank's Dec. 12 policy meeting.
 
How Skepticism Can Fuel a Rise


By E.S. Browning
The Wall Street Journal Online


The stock market has been in a surprisingly strong rally since the middle of July -- so strong, that many experienced investors find it too good to be true.

Ironically, that very skepticism could be one of the reasons the market is doing so well.

"Some of the best market advances seem to be the ones that are the hardest to believe, and this one is hard to believe," says Paul Desmond, president of research service Lowry's Reports in North Palm Beach, Fla.

Mr. Desmond was one of many analysts who saw signs during the summer that stocks were running out of steam and heading for more declines. The decline that began in May looked like it could last a while.

But by mid-July, with broad stock measures down less than 10%, stocks suddenly turned higher. In August, Mr. Desmond says, he decided the rebound was for real and started sending alerts to clients, urging them to buy more stocks. Yet, many experienced investors remained doubters.

"We keep getting calls, especially from our older clients, saying, 'I am deathly afraid of waking up and getting a 30% decline.' We are telling them that we think there will be plenty of warning signs before something like that happens," Mr. Desmond says.

"It is taking a very long time for people to believe in the rally," says Phil Roth, chief technical market analyst at New York brokerage firm Miller Tabak. "It is just hanging on and hanging on."

The doubters, of course, could be right, and you would think that all this skepticism would be bad for stocks. If a lot of smart people don't believe in the rally, how can that be good?

That's where the irony comes in. Stock rallies often happen when the market is full of doubters. Those are times when money managers and individuals alike have pulled money out of stocks and are holding cash, bonds or other investments. If the market begins to turn up, these people start to feel left behind. They have money available to shift into stocks, and they do so.

As long as doubters remain to be converted, money can keep moving away from other investments and into stocks, pushing prices higher.

Once the great majority is bullish, however, things are different. Froth appears, as it did during the 1990s. Instead of holding money on the sidelines, people borrow against their homes or from their brokers in order to invest. That is when stocks can be at risk, because there is little free money left on the sidelines to move into stocks.

What interests some analysts is that the market still doesn't seem frothy, even though the Dow Jones Industrial Average is up 14.9% since July 14 and has racked up 18 record finishes since October began, and even though the Nasdaq Composite Index is up 21% since July 21 and near a six-year high.

"The reason the advance has persisted is that traders, especially hedge funds, just got very bearish in the summer. They have been very reluctant to reverse their opinion. Now they are getting carried, screaming, into the market," Mr. Roth says. What he means is that they are buying stocks against their better judgment, for fear of being left behind by competitors. Until more of them give in and turn bullish, he adds, the market is likely to keep rising.

Bearish investors -- short sellers -- are throwing in the towel. These are people who borrow stock and sell it in the expectation that they can profit by buying it cheaper later. After all the gains, they are "covering" their bets by buying the stocks back, often at a financial loss. "I am seeing short-covering every day," Mr. Roth says.

Gauging market mood isn't easy, but analysts have various ways to do it. The indicators they look at show a big swing from rank pessimism in the summer to more investor optimism today. In general, however, the indicators still aren't showing excessive optimism. With these indicators, investor doubts are considered positive for stocks, and excessive optimism is considered a sign of possible trouble ahead.

A measure of short selling on the New York Stock Exchange shows that the practice remains widespread, suggesting that plenty of pros doubt the recent gains -- not much optimism there. A survey by the American Association of Individual Investors shows the percentage of bulls has risen sharply since summer, but remains only a little over 50%, still in a range analysts consider neutral.

A survey of market newsletter writers by a newsletter called Investors Intelligence shows slightly more bullish results -- about 2.5 times as many bulls as bears. That is just on the threshold of trouble, in Mr. Roth's view, but not yet into worrisome territory. A poll of futures traders by Consensus Inc. has begun to flash a warning signal, with more than 70% bulls.

None of these numbers, with the possible exception of the futures-traders poll, is extreme enough to worry most analysts. They suggest that the rally is aging, but not that it is ending.

What's more, investors tend to get more bullish at year's end, because the period from Thanksgiving to New Year's historically has been one of the best for stocks. So a higher level of bullishness now is to be expected.

Not everyone is relaxed about the outlook. Merrill Lynch investment strategist Richard Bernstein, long a market skeptic, says he sees signs of froth. One of the best indicators of the market outlook, he says, is his measure of the bullishness of other Wall Street strategists. Currently, he says, the indicator is showing too much bullishness, and flashing a warning signal.

More generally, he says, professional investors are showing high appetites for risky investments and aren't using the kinds of hedging strategies he would expect to see if they were worried about the market outlook. He says the recent market gains are due, not to the conversion of market skeptics, but to the plunging price of gasoline, which has boosted optimism about inflation, interest rates, consumer spending and the economy.

"People are still risk takers," he says.

But that isn't the prevalent view right now.

Analyst Ned Davis, founder of Ned Davis Research in Venice, Fla., says he is "on the lookout" for a bear market, "but I doubt it will happen until sentiment gets to extreme optimism." And that, he says, hasn't happened yet.

Some once-skeptical analysts have been turned into believers. Louise Yamada, former head of technical research at Citigroup's brokerage arm, who now runs her own firm, saw the market heading lower earlier this year. Now the rally seems so strong that she sees the Dow industrials pushing above 13000, perhaps far above that level.

"The important thing is to look at the flow of money into and out of market," says Mr. Desmond of Lowry's. And there, he says, there is every sign that money is continuing to move off the sidelines and into stocks.

Write to E.S. Browning at [email protected]
 
La seduta odierna è servita a porre in trappola molti degli investitori individuali entrati massiciamente in questa ultima fase del rialzo.
Come indicato dai molti post fatti gli investitori individuali hanno cominciato ad essere maggiormente positivi sui mercati solo dopo la fine della presunta stagionalità negativa e cioè solo dopo settembre e metà ottobre.
In quella fase mentre i big hanno cominciato a distribuire i carry o comunque a consolidarli per ridurre l'esposizione sull'azionario e nel frattempo costruire posizioni a copertura come mostrato dalle letture dei COT visti anche in un post odierno ma già indicati la settimana scorsa, i piccoli operatori si sono fatti più coraggiosi sui mercati azionari spinti dalle ottime trimestrali aziendali, dal calo del prezzo delle commodity e dalle considerazioni sulla stagionalità favorevole.
La candela odierna ha assorbito molto del rialzo di questo periodo e basterà ancora una o due candele per cancellare completamente i rialzi di questo periodo.
Nel frattempo però il sentiment degli individuali ha già cominciato a deteriorarsi velocemente e nel caso di termine delle chiusure delle posizioni carry o addirittura della ripresa delle aperture il mercato avrà nuovamente condizioni supportive e i piccoli investitori potranno leggere questa correzione come una occasione su cui entrare permettendo la continuazione della distribuzione da parte dei big.
In caso di continuazione del trend di chiusura dei big ci potrebbero essere degli operatori in difficoltà e questo potrebbe peggiorare lo scenario.
 
Giorno bbanda ... io come al solito sono il solito pipparolo ! :eek: :eek: :D :lol: :lol:
... ieri preso dalla "mania dei click" a fine serata ho chiuso tutto. Il classico errore da frenesia ! :rolleyes:

.. vabbè, alla fine sul dj e roussel è andata così ...

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... si poteva sicuramente fare di più, ma è sempre meglio che un calcio negli zebedei ! :D :D :D
Se mi danno l'opportunità di un rimbalzino sul pivot io rientrerei sul contratto marzo 2007 ... tanto per continuare a martellarli quando sono ancora in crisi, non mi faccio comunque grosse illusioni :
- siamo sempre a fine anno
- novembre e di per sè un periodo bullis per le borse
- credo che manterranno ancora appesi parecchi prima di scendere veramente ... se invece piombano giù questa settimana allora è solo uno storno tecnico prima di ripresentarsi in prossimità dei massimi per fine anno.

IMHO


Questa mattina non ci sono, tocca andare a comperare un nuovo martello pneumatico ... ergo ... "motopic" :D ... che quello vecchio si è cotto !! Pace all'anima sua ... :-o
Giovedì arriva il tetto nuovo :) :) :)
... ci si legge nel pomeriggio ... :bye: :bye:
 
ditropan ha scritto:
Giorno bbanda ... io come al solito sono il solito pipparolo ! :eek: :eek: :D :lol: :lol:
... ieri preso dalla "mania dei click" a fine serata ho chiuso tutto. Il classico errore da frenesia ! :rolleyes:

.. vabbè, alla fine sul dj e roussel è andata così ...

Immagine sostituita con URL per un solo Quote: http://www.investireoggi.it/phpBB2/immagini/1164691300azz1.jpg

... si poteva sicuramente fare di più, ma è sempre meglio che un calcio negli zebedei ! :D :D :D
Se mi danno l'opportunità di un rimbalzino sul pivot io rientrerei sul contratto marzo 2007 ... tanto per continuare a martellarli quando sono ancora in crisi, non mi faccio comunque grosse illusioni :
- siamo sempre a fine anno
- novembre e di per sè un periodo bullis per le borse
- credo che manterranno ancora appesi parecchi prima di scendere veramente ... se invece piombano giù questa settimana allora è solo uno storno tecnico prima di ripresentarsi in prossimità dei massimi per fine anno.

IMHO


Questa mattina non ci sono, tocca andare a comperare un nuovo martello pneumatico ... ergo ... "motopic" :D ... che quello vecchio si è cotto !! Pace all'anima sua ... :-o
Giovedì arriva il tetto nuovo :) :) :)
... ci si legge nel pomeriggio ... :bye: :bye:

Se hai sbagliato lo sai con il senno di poi.. per il momento hai portato a casa un pò di soldi e questo va già bene :up:
 
Attrattori:
fib 40836 40089
eurostock 4054 3954 ci8,2
iDax 6429,15 6289,64 ci6,6
iNasdq100 1822,82 1787,76 ci2,1
iS&P500 1403 1386 ci4,2

Notare:
la rottura del channel che accompagna il fib da Luglio 2006, la trend line, piu' negativa di ieri, che si allontana dalla sua media, il ci in crescita
......e pure Il Prudente che 3 giorni fà è andato short
e la possibile verifica dell'onda B che chiama la C

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