Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate Allianz 2022 sub - XS0148887564 - call 2012

grazie Mark per le delucidazioni sulla salute di Allianz. Insomma stanno bene ... se i mercati reggono e se i tassi così bassi non durano troppo a lungo.

Qui il contesto valutativo più generale... se leggi fra le righe, intendi come per loro una ripresa dei mercati azionari (prima attesa per la seconda metà del 2009) sia stata poposta, in termini di verosimile previsione (nessuno ha la sfera di cristallo :D) al 2010.

Un'altra considerazione: potremmo non essere nella fase più critica nel movimento verso il basso dei rating compartimentali... (:cool:)

Various Rating Actions On European Global Multiline Insurers After Portfolio Review

FRANKFURT (Standard & Poor's) March 31, 2009--Standard & Poor's Ratings Services announced today that it had completed its review of seven European global multiline insurers (GMIs).

As a result of the review, Standard & Poor's lowered its counterparty credit and insurer financial strength ratings on various operating entities of AEGON N.V. (AEGON), ING Groep N.V. (ING), and Assicurazioni Generali SpA (Generali).

In addition, it lowered its counterparty credit ratings on the holding companies of AEGON N.V., ING Groep N.V., and Aviva PLC. The long-term rating on AEGON N.V. was removed from CreditWatch, where it was placed with negative implications on Feb. 18, 2009.

The ratings on Allianz SE, AXA, AXA France Vie, and Aviva International Insurance Ltd. were affirmed.

At the same time, the outlooks on various operating entities of the Zurich Financial Services insurance group were revised to negative from stable (see below for the full list of European GMIs reviewed and refer to the separate articles on each company listed above for full details on our rating actions).

Our review has taken place against the backdrop of the continued deterioration of financial markets and the rapid downswing of the world economy, which together weigh significantly on GMIs' capital adequacy and earnings prospects.

We are of the opinion that the worsening outlook for credit risk, combined with continued volatility and weakness in equity markets, will remain a key rating sensitivity for GMIs in 2009 and potentially in 2010.

The ratings remain supported by our view of the GMIs' very strong competitive positions, generally sound business fundamentals, and robust liquidity. We also believe that GMIs entered this period from a position of relative strength, with robust balance sheets supported by improved risk management.

Capital adequacy has become a relative weakness to the rating for the majority of GMIs.

The exceptions are AEGON and ING's insurance operations, which both continue to show what we consider to be very strong risk-based capital adequacy, partly as a result of capital injections of €3 billion and €10 billion, respectively, from the State of The Netherlands (AAA/Stable/A-1+) to bolster capitalization.

In the case of ING, €4 billion was provided to the insurance business, €5 billion to the bank, and €1 billion was retained at the holding company as of year-end 2008. We do not factor in future extraordinary state support for any of the entities covered by this review.

Our criteria permits a degree of latitude for highly rated insurers operating with lower capitalization than is usual for their respective rating categories, to the extent that we believe an insurer's earnings capacity is still sufficient to bring its capital adequacy close to a level consistent with the rating over the next two years.

Where this convergence of capital adequacy and rating is uncertain, the ratings generally carry a negative outlook.

Amid a daunting financial landscape, GMIs' ability to raise capital is more restricted than would previously have been the case. Despite their reduced financial flexibility, we regard GMIs' aggregate refinancing risks as manageable and believe that they are adequately positioned to meet their near-term debt maturities and interest payment requirements through healthy operational cash flows and sufficient liquidity.

The widening of the gap between the holding companies of Aviva and AEGON and their respective operating subsidiaries reflects our view of greater structural subordination and lower holding company inflows, owing to challenging operating and financial market conditions.

Operating performance faltered during 2008, and our ratings generally factor in a further decline in GMIs' top-line growth and earnings in 2009.

Life operating profits will, in our view, be under greater pressure, reflecting their relatively higher correlation to economic and financial market conditions.

Declines in asset values will continue to erode underlying earnings from equity-linked products. At the same time, long-term interest rates have contracted significantly, increasing the cost of options and guarantees.

Higher hedging costs and ineffective hedging may further depress earnings. The ratings on GMIs with a property/casualty insurance bias have proven more resilient because of healthy underwriting profits in 2008, although partly aided by reserve releases related to previous years. We believe that their future resilience depends on their continued ability to maintain pricing discipline.

Our ratings are underpinned by our view that in 2009 and 2010, GMIs active in property casualty insurance should be able to continue to effectively manage the cycle, resulting in combined ratios
comfortably below 100%, barring major-catastrophe losses and without substantially reducing loss-reserve strength.

Standard & Poor's ongoing surveillance of GMIs will continue to assess the resilience of earnings and balance sheets through this period of heightened market and financial stress.

S&P rating actions insurance companies.GIF
 
per le agencies insomma la ripresa ..."longa" dei mercati azionari si sposta al 2010... quindi o siamo noi che la pensiamo come loro o sono loro che la pensano come noi...:
è ancora presto.

scusate il piccolo OT
 
outlook secondo Allianz

Outlook for the Allianz Group
Whilst the challenging environment described above will
clearly impact our business in 2009, Allianz is well positioned,
with a solid platform for delivering earnings in the
core insurance and asset accumulation businesses. We are
strongly capitalized, and with a pro-forma solvency ratio of
161 % net of a Euro 1.6 billion dividend accrual at the end of the
current reporting period, we are able to withstand a prolonged
difficult market environment.
The underlying fundamentals in our operations are healthy.
The major part of our operating profit is driven by our Property-
Casualty business, which is least affected by the financial
markets crisis. Our combined ratio is strong and expected
to benefit from the ongoing efficiency and effectiveness
improvements we are realizing from our operational transformation
program and sustainability initiative. This will
serve to mitigate claims and cost inflation. Even if a severe
recession would cause a shortfall in revenues, the shortterm
impact on operating profit would not be significant.
The level of dividend and interest income is robust.
In the Life/Health operations we expect a consistently positive
development in traditional business, while a recovery in
the investment-oriented products is likely to occur over the
longer-term. The investment margins will remain vulnerable
to adverse financial market developments.
The investment assets of the Allianz Group amounted to
Euro 443 billion at the end of the current reporting period. We
will maintain a defensive portfolio, managed under a sustainable
investment strategy and generating a reliable
stream of coupons and dividend yields. Whilst this portfolio
includes a significantly reduced level of equity exposure, in
the ongoing financial crisis, we cannot rule out further
impairments, or indeed credit defaults on corporate bonds.
Our asset management business is managing in excess of
Euro 700 billion of third-party assets. Whilst the equities side
has been badly affected by the turmoil and investors’ loss of
confidence, the fixed-income side remains resilient, and we
expect that to continue.
As mentioned repeatedly throughout this report, we expect
the difficult conditions in the capital markets to continue
throughout 2009. We are in the midst of the toughest economic
downturn for decades, and reliable statements about
profit levels for 2009 are not possible in this environment.

As always, natural catastrophes and adverse developments
in the capital markets, as well as the factors stated in our
cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, may
severely impact our results of operations
 

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si ma non vi fate attrarre dai prezzi, è sempre un subordinato ut2, lungo se non viene callato.
Il mercato in questo momento è alquanto severo vs la tipologia di bond.
 
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Buon giorno a tutti, è da un pò che "gioco" con questa obbligazione:
da Ottobre ad oggi l'ho comprata e rivenduta alcune volte, ha sicuramente scambi molto ridotti e a volte ampi margini denaro lettera, ma con quantità ridotte si potevano trovare dei buoni affari.
Ora purtroppo le ho in carico ha 91 e dopo il crollo dei subordinati dovrò aspettare tempi migliori.
 

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