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By Mark Gongloff

News reports that Italy is in talks with China to buy some Italian sovereign debt have completely turned around the stock market. The Dow has regained about 100 points in a very short period of time and is now down only about 50.
Pop quiz. This is a clear demonstration of:
1. How much of a grip Europe has on our imagination right now
2. How little good news it takes to flip everybody’s risk coaster right back to green
3. How headline-reading robots have completely replaced thinking humans in the market
4. How short our memories are — after all, the ECB has been buying Italian debt for weeks now, without actually solving anything. Will China buying the debt be that much of a help?
5. All of the above
6. None of the above
Update: Here are some details, from the FT by way of Bloomberg, of the talks:
The Italian government is making approaches to China with the aim of selling the cash-rich Asian country “significant” quantities of Italian bonds and investments in strategic companies, FT reports.
* China Investment Corp. Chairman Lou Jiwei was in Rome last week for discussions with Italian Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti and Italy’s Cassa Depositi e Prestiti, a government entity that has established an Italian Strategic Fund open to foreign investors, FT says, citing unidentified Italian officials
* Italian officials met China Investment Corp. and the country’s State Administration of Foreign Exchange, which manages most of China’s $3,200 trillion foreign exchange reserves, in Beijing two weeks ago, FT says
* Italy’s Head of Treasury, Vittorio Grilli, met Chinese investors in the Chinese capital in August, FT reports
* Further negotiations are likely to take place soon, FT says, citing unidentified Italian officials.
Update 2: The bounce was fairly short-lived. The Dow is now back down about 123 points, giving back most of its recovery. Joe Weisenthal points out that China announced it was buying Greek bonds nearly a year ago, to no avail
 
By Mark Gongloff

News reports that Italy is in talks with China to buy some Italian sovereign debt have completely turned around the stock market. The Dow has regained about 100 points in a very short period of time and is now down only about 50.
Pop quiz. This is a clear demonstration of:
1. How much of a grip Europe has on our imagination right now
2. How little good news it takes to flip everybody’s risk coaster right back to green
3. How headline-reading robots have completely replaced thinking humans in the market
4. How short our memories are — after all, the ECB has been buying Italian debt for weeks now, without actually solving anything. Will China buying the debt be that much of a help?
5. All of the above
6. None of the above
Update: Here are some details, from the FT by way of Bloomberg, of the talks:
The Italian government is making approaches to China with the aim of selling the cash-rich Asian country “significant” quantities of Italian bonds and investments in strategic companies, FT reports.
* China Investment Corp. Chairman Lou Jiwei was in Rome last week for discussions with Italian Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti and Italy’s Cassa Depositi e Prestiti, a government entity that has established an Italian Strategic Fund open to foreign investors, FT says, citing unidentified Italian officials
* Italian officials met China Investment Corp. and the country’s State Administration of Foreign Exchange, which manages most of China’s $3,200 trillion foreign exchange reserves, in Beijing two weeks ago, FT says
* Italy’s Head of Treasury, Vittorio Grilli, met Chinese investors in the Chinese capital in August, FT reports
* Further negotiations are likely to take place soon, FT says, citing unidentified Italian officials.
Update 2: The bounce was fairly short-lived. The Dow is now back down about 123 points, giving back most of its recovery. Joe Weisenthal points out that China announced it was buying Greek bonds nearly a year ago, to no avail

magico Gipa , le trovi solo tu
pensavo justo stamane cosa pensano i cinesi di un eventuale default dell'euro ... gli conviene, ai cinesi?
darebbe fiato all'america
una europa divisa è più facile da gestire
ma ....
ma io credo che loro preferiscano un equilibrio eur-doll
non saprei dire da dove mi punza l'idea :wall: ma questa ho :rolleyes:


nè a te nè a Fleu scapperà l'ironia che il zilvio ci ha portato ad essere salvati dai comunisti, se non è una nemesi questa ! :D:D
 
Suzuki-Volkswagen, è rottura

ECONOMIALa casa giapponese pone fine all'accordo che durava
dal 2009 dopo l'ultimatum di quella tedesca che voleva imporre ai nipponici il divieto di comprare motori diesel dalla Fiat
 
Gli USA sembrano tenere il canale ascendente identificabile con una bear flag non confermando la figura in atto...


hanno fatto un recupero sul finale non da poco ...
perchè ??



The bear flag is a continuation pattern which only slightly retraces the decline preceding it. The technical sell point is when price penetrates the lower trend line of the flag area, ideally on volume expansion.
 
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per il momento sono gli switch da europa questi... ma poi la dicotomia si fa troppo forte e gli short europei sono costretti s reversare
 
perchè secondo me entro breve si rimbalza molto forte...


su ??


(ok. ho letto il paper di ieri, ma la giornata di oggi, non quella dei mercati la mia, mi ha un pò sbalestrato )
( e fino a stamane ero concord al 100% ma altre vicissitudini mi hanno amareggiato ... puà essere che lo stato d'animo faccia cambiare view?)

( OT Gipa sono inciampato in un libro di finanza comportamentale ;) )
 
un'altra mossa fantastika del duo cabarettistiko :wall::wall: 3conti quello che voleva mettere il dazio ai cinesi
mò ci vendiamo il q alla cina, chissà quanto saranno contenti gli americani:rolleyes:
cmq bello short squeeze finale, peccato che la notizia è uscita mentre mi stavo a fare du spaghi aglio e oglio :D:wall::wall: cazzu cazzu io ero rimasto che dovevano andare a fare il test dei minimi
 

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