Titoli di Stato paesi-emergenti Dubai, le entità "government-related" ed il supporto che potrebbe non arrivare... (6 lettori)

Capirex85

Value investor
Grazie, Capirex... dal 3d si comprende bene che si capiva già da aprile come sarebbe andata a finire ... evidentemente dall'alto hanno fatto intendere a quelli di Dubai che non era il caso di recare ulteriore turbamento ai mercati per qualche mese... ;)

E' vero... vediamo mano a mano che si va a scavare quanto marcio viene fuori.
 

ilfolignate

Forumer storico
Toh che perspicacia:

Dubai: lo spauracchio default fa rimettere mano ai rating Fitch


Le banche dell'Emirato Arabo non sono più un porto sicuro. Lo spauracchio di un fallimento di Dubai fa correre gli analisti dell'agenzia di rating internazionale, Fitch a rimetter mano ad alcune valutazioni. Gli esperti ha abbassato i rating di lungo termine su Dubai Bank a BBB- da BBB+, su Tamweel a BB da BBB e infine su Taib Bank a BB da BBB-. Gli outlook su Dubai Bank e Taib sono negativi mentre su Tamweel resta in creditwatch. I tre istituti fanno indirettamente capo al Governo del Dubai.
 

Imark

Forumer storico
:clava:Holding 2014 ?

Chiude 62 - 62,9 a Stoccarda, last 62,75, e poco più di 4.3 mln euro di nominale scambiati (va atteso il finale), ai quali va ad aggiungersi attorno ad 800k euro sugli altri mercati tedeschi...

Chiaramente in attesa di capire come butta, perché se il rating Ba2 rispecchiasse il reale profilo di rischio dell'emittente, qui bisognerebbe entrare di corsa, ma evidentemente di Dubai nessuno si fida...
 

Capirex85

Value investor
Ed ecco che come al solito quando le cose si mettono male saltano fuori strane cose fuori blancio:rolleyes:

Le stime di potenziale esposizione verso l'emittente potrebbero essere ben più alte degli 80-90 B stimati ad oggi dal mercato. Se ciò fosse vero il debito emesse nelle ultime settimane da Dubai potrebbe non essere sufficiente per fare un rollover del debito in scadenza a dicembre...:specchio:
Alcuni previsioni, tipo quella sull'aumento futuro del tasso di default dei mutui immobiliari, sono inquietanti. Temo che qualche banca locale salterà con i piedi per aria se non ci sarà qualche intervento di terze parti.


Dubai Debt May Be Higher Than $80 Billion, UBS Says (Update1)


By Anthony DiPaola and Chris Bourke

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Dubai, the Persian Gulf emirate whose state-run companies are seeking to defer debt payments, may owe more than the $80 billion to $90 billion in liabilities assumed by investors, UBS AG analysts said.

“Perhaps Dubai’s debt includes sizeable off-balance sheet liabilities that imply a total debt burden well above the $80 billion to $90 billion markets have estimated so far,” Dubai- based real estate analyst Saud Masud wrote in a note. “This could imply that the debt issued by Dubai in recent weeks is insufficient to meet upcoming redemptions.”
Dubai, which has said it will raise as much as $20 billion selling bonds to repay borrowings, said on Nov. 25 that state- run Dubai World, with $59 billion of liabilities, would ask creditors for a “standstill” agreement as it negotiates to extend debt maturities.
The request to delay debt repayment “came as a major shock” to investors, Masud and fellow UBS London-based analyst Reinhard Cluse told clients on a conference call today. Dubai World property unit Nakheel PJSC has $3.52 billion of Islamic bonds due Dec. 14. Dubai World may seek to negotiate all its liabilities as it reorganizes the business, Masud said.
“The Nakheel sukuk is the largest that has ever been issued,” Cluse said on the conference call. “Markets will take some time to digest this blow.”
‘Significant Sweetener’
Dubai accumulated $80 billion of debt by expanding in banking, real estate and transportation before credit markets seized up last year. The second biggest of seven sheikhdoms that make up the United Arab Emirates formed a fund to help reorganize state firms and sold $10 billion in bonds to the national central bank in February.
It borrowed an additional $5 billion from Abu Dhabi government-controlled banks Nov. 25, half the $10 billion in bonds that Dubai ruler Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al-Maktoum said he planned to raise by yearend.
Nakheel bondholders could demand a “significant sweetener” to renegotiate the debt and look to determine which of the real estate unit’s assets they may be able to claim, according to Masud.
There is growing interest from Persian Gulf investment funds in acquiring properties owned by Dubai entities, including Nakheel, which may be forced to sell assets to reduce debt, said Michael Atwell, head of Middle East operations at real estate broker Cushman & Wakefield.
‘Still Buzzing’
“We can sense it, and we’re hoping to have some transactions from several funds with buying requirements, some over $100 million,” he said. Potential buyers may be seeking stable cash flow from buildings with long leases.
“The city is still buzzing. Dubai won’t turn into a ghost town, but there’ll be some big restructuring and reorganization, without a doubt.”
Seeking a repayment delay may indicate that Abu Dhabi, the U.A.E.’s largest sheikhdom, may not want to support Dubai further financially until the smaller emirate addresses internal problems at government-run companies, Masud said.
“This could be the realization that you cannot simply buy your way out of this crisis,” Masud said.
The request could also suggest that Abu Dhabi and Dubai have decided to seek to bolster long-term confidence in the market by forcing weaker parts of government businesses to take responsibility for bad decisions and could involve defaults at some Dubai firms, Masud said.
Mortgage Defaults
Dubai property developers may be liable for an estimated $11 billion required to build 40,000 homes that they have started, said Masud in an interview yesterday. That amount represents the off-balance sheet cost, or “funding gap” required to complete and hand over the properties, on which investors are now defaulting, by the end of 2010.
Nakheel’s share of that funding gap is about $2 billion, estimated Masud. Around half of the investors in the 40,000 unfinished homes may default by the end of next year, he said.
Mortgage defaults, which stand at about 3 percent of the total in the U.A.E., may increase fivefold to “the teens,” :)eek::eek: ndr) Masud said on the call today.
 

Capirex85

Value investor
Considerazione molto interessante di BofA... + dato sull'andamento dei prezzi degli immobili... 50% dal picco di metà 2008... ok, è ufficiale che le banche e il settore real estate locali sono nel pantano fino al collo...

Dubai Woes May Reach ‘Sovereign Default,’ BofA Says (Update1)

By Tal Barak Harif

Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Dubai’s debt woes may worsen to become a “major sovereign default” that roils developing nations and cuts off capital flows to emerging markets, Bank of America Corp. said.
“One cannot rule out -- as a tail risk -- a case where this would escalate into a major sovereign default problem, which would then resonate across global emerging markets in the same way that Argentina did in the early 2000s or Russia in the late 1990s,” Bank of America strategists Benoit Anne and Daniel Tenengauzer wrote in a report.
A default would lead to a “sudden stop of capital flows into emerging markets” and be a “major step back” in the recovery from the global financial crisis, they wrote.
Stocks around the world have slumped for two days on concern a debt restructuring by Dubai World, with $59 billion of liabilities, will add to the $1.72 trillion of losses and writedowns from the global credit freeze. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index fell 1.8 percent to 941.14 as of 11:15 a.m. in New York, extending this week’s decline to 2.5 percent, the biggest in a month.
Dubai, which borrowed $80 billion in a four-year construction boom to transform its economy into a tourism and financial hub, suffered the world’s steepest property slump in the recession. Home prices fell 50 percent from their 2008 peak :)eek::eek::eek: ndr), according to Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank AG.
In a best-case scenario, this will remain limited to a Dubai corporate sector problem, with either some bailout from UAE authorities or a market-friendly debt restructuring,” they wrote.
 

ironblade79

Nuovo forumer
Io mi sarei augurato il fallimento, per il bene dei mercati e per un ritorno ai fondamentali, ma alla fine ci metteranno una pezza: Allah akbar.


Ciao a tutti.

io oggettivamente non capisco perchè la chiamate "economia di carta".

Mi sembra che i soldi sono stati impegati per fare delle costruzioni che dopo le materie prime sono i beni rifugio per eccellenza.

C'è stata la crisi e i prezzi degli immobili sono crollati.

Di finanziario a Dubai, da quel che leggo non è che passano sti milardi di dollari... quindi sinceramente non capisco cosa c'è "di carta" a Dubai.

grazie
ironblade79
 

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