cort
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quoto in toto..
prima 3 adesso 4.. azz.. il 25% di differenza.. er fortuna sono solo caramelle.. eheheheh
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prima 3 adesso 4.. azz.. il 25% di differenza.. er fortuna sono solo caramelle.. eheheheh
mark2010
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daccordo che il lev gas è na ciofeca, ma se il gas scende come fa il lev a salire???
in più ci si sta mettendo di mezzo anche il cambio non favorevole
MARCO12
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ahahaha
ma allora siete un po duretti...è come dire perchè una bilia non sale in salita!!! si puo fermare ma puo cadere e precipitare e poi saltare ma alla fine va sempre verso il fondo cioè a zero....solo con lo shortgas ti puoi salvare...
ma c'è chi non capisce ... quando cade velocemente al rimbalzo si puo tentare ad entrare ma quando lateralizza si scende ...sempre... ma forse è inutile ripetere ai dei sordi....okkio mettete gli stop loss con i lev....e aumentate gli short unico gain sicuro
mark2010
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mark2010
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ti prego, parlami ancora degli MM...
delle caramelle....
dei bambini...
del LOVE short...
EzraWest
Nuovo forumer
Ciao Ragazzi,
bene, ringrazio soprattutto Marco12 che negli ultimi post ci ha deliziato con l'uso del carattere normale e non da presbite.
Tra parentesi mi fa piacere anche che abbia deciso di conversare, dato che ultimamente mi sembrava come mia nonna che non ascolta nessuno e continua a ripetere quelle che viene in mente a lei.
Comunque il nostro "amato" gas non ha combinato niente, inutile dire short long, ci attacchiamo agli specchi, a meno che non si adori l'Intraday schietto e il continuo stress di trovare i timing giusti 10 volte al giorno.
Insomma qualche giorno di trading range, e col brivido del cambio, cui noi tradari dobbiamo fare i conti se operiamo coi temutissimi ETC.
Comunque caro marco12 dopo giorni che lo dici ho deciso di sposare l'eventualità dello short, naturalmente virtuale, dato che io se non si attivano i buy stop non entro in campo comunque.
Ecco dunque la mia idea short:
La mia idea Long è tramontata il 6 agosto. Ma non ho reversato dato che c'era una trend line up che stava tenendo.
Adesso la nuova trend line up è quella verde tratteggiata in basso, che ha tenuto ai minimi del 16agosto.
In ogni caso ho sviluppato una nuova forchetta di Andrews ribassista (la rossa), abbandonando la rialzista (verde).
Il Reversal swing tra la freccia verde e rossa ha determinato un Reaction swing che potrebbe durare fino al 30 agosto in area 3.95, a 21 giorni dalla fine del Revelsal swing (freccia rossa), simmetricamente all'inizio della Action con i massimi del 15 giugno.
Se così fosse andremmo ad intercettare i minimi del 6 maggio (5 punti sotto la linea di supporto in basso verde).
A questo quadro ribassista abbiamo 2 elementi avversi, il precedente trading range (vedere le due ellissi blu) dall'8 al 15 luglio è terminato con una barra che sembrava un ulteriore ribasso, ma in un giorno il gas ha fatto da 4.25 a 4.59.... Sappiamo tutti che il gas è volubile/volatile.
Lo stocastico di breve non si è incrociato ma manca poco e l'ATR non è per niente male.
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Per ultimo ma non per ultimo, vi invito a osservare nel suguente comparativo gli effetti del cambio EUR/USD sul ETC SNGA.
nel grafico:
Verde=SNGA
BLU=EUR/USD
NERO=GAS FUTURE
Quindi occhio a fare calcoli basandosi sul fatto che lo SHORT GAS ha anche toccato i 125euro a maggio.
Bene chiudo la parte tecnica.
- - -
Per la parte noiosa ho da dire questo.
Il susseguirsi di commenti poco costruttivi ha fatto si che in questi giorni il 3D si è affievolito (salvo eccezioni, naturalmente, e mettiamoci un po' fi ferragosto).
Quindi ragazzi... caramelle o no, MM e tutto il resto.
Siamo tutti nello stessa barca
, vediamo di contribuire al meglio, sia i bravi per migliorare, gli altri per imparare e non dimentichiamoci che ci potrebbero essere alcuni sotto pesante stress per qualche brutta situazione in loss (a proposito: tagliare sempre, per tempo).
Un salutone a tutti,
Ezrawest
bene, ringrazio soprattutto Marco12 che negli ultimi post ci ha deliziato con l'uso del carattere normale e non da presbite.
Tra parentesi mi fa piacere anche che abbia deciso di conversare, dato che ultimamente mi sembrava come mia nonna che non ascolta nessuno e continua a ripetere quelle che viene in mente a lei.
Comunque il nostro "amato" gas non ha combinato niente, inutile dire short long, ci attacchiamo agli specchi, a meno che non si adori l'Intraday schietto e il continuo stress di trovare i timing giusti 10 volte al giorno.
Insomma qualche giorno di trading range, e col brivido del cambio, cui noi tradari dobbiamo fare i conti se operiamo coi temutissimi ETC.
Comunque caro marco12 dopo giorni che lo dici ho deciso di sposare l'eventualità dello short, naturalmente virtuale, dato che io se non si attivano i buy stop non entro in campo comunque.
Ecco dunque la mia idea short:
La mia idea Long è tramontata il 6 agosto. Ma non ho reversato dato che c'era una trend line up che stava tenendo.
Adesso la nuova trend line up è quella verde tratteggiata in basso, che ha tenuto ai minimi del 16agosto.
In ogni caso ho sviluppato una nuova forchetta di Andrews ribassista (la rossa), abbandonando la rialzista (verde).
Il Reversal swing tra la freccia verde e rossa ha determinato un Reaction swing che potrebbe durare fino al 30 agosto in area 3.95, a 21 giorni dalla fine del Revelsal swing (freccia rossa), simmetricamente all'inizio della Action con i massimi del 15 giugno.
Se così fosse andremmo ad intercettare i minimi del 6 maggio (5 punti sotto la linea di supporto in basso verde).
A questo quadro ribassista abbiamo 2 elementi avversi, il precedente trading range (vedere le due ellissi blu) dall'8 al 15 luglio è terminato con una barra che sembrava un ulteriore ribasso, ma in un giorno il gas ha fatto da 4.25 a 4.59.... Sappiamo tutti che il gas è volubile/volatile.
Lo stocastico di breve non si è incrociato ma manca poco e l'ATR non è per niente male.
---
Per ultimo ma non per ultimo, vi invito a osservare nel suguente comparativo gli effetti del cambio EUR/USD sul ETC SNGA.
nel grafico:
Verde=SNGA
BLU=EUR/USD
NERO=GAS FUTURE
Quindi occhio a fare calcoli basandosi sul fatto che lo SHORT GAS ha anche toccato i 125euro a maggio.
Bene chiudo la parte tecnica.
- - -
Per la parte noiosa ho da dire questo.
Il susseguirsi di commenti poco costruttivi ha fatto si che in questi giorni il 3D si è affievolito (salvo eccezioni, naturalmente, e mettiamoci un po' fi ferragosto).
Quindi ragazzi... caramelle o no, MM e tutto il resto.
Siamo tutti nello stessa barca
, vediamo di contribuire al meglio, sia i bravi per migliorare, gli altri per imparare e non dimentichiamoci che ci potrebbero essere alcuni sotto pesante stress per qualche brutta situazione in loss (a proposito: tagliare sempre, per tempo).Un salutone a tutti,
Ezrawest
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What No One Else Has Caught... Yet
By Ian Cooper | Wednesday, August 18th, 2010
I'll make this short.
Here’s what no one else will tell you with regards to natural gas: Buy it — or miss the historical September run.
You see, it doesn’t matter what the bears say. It’s time to buy natural gas while no one’s looking.
Just as I called the $4 bottom on natural gas on May 19, I’m calling for natural gas to rally once again
“You’ve heard it all before: Supply is outpacing demand… Our ability to horizontally drill for shale gas has made the supply picture seem unlimited... the short-term outlook is bleak,” I said back in May.
“But those are all fine examples of herd-mentality thinking. Contrarians, like us, though, are buying hand over fist.”
And we were right. Natural gas would spike well above $5 in coming weeks.
But, as expected, the bears are coming out again as natural gas pulls back. And as a result, they might miss out on the buying opportunity of a lifetime.
This may be because they don’t want to watch the charts:
Notice that every September — even in the steep 2008 sell-off — natural gas has spiked big.
And the reason for this annual spike is simple: Summer is typically the worst time for natural gas consumption, setting up the perfect trade for natural gas stocks around the month of September as consumption turns up.
Last summer, for example, natural gas suffered. But once September rolled around, natural gas roared from $2.50 to more than $5 by January 2010.
And it will do the same thing this year.
In fact I’m buying as much natural gas as I can right now in Pure Asset Trader… and I advise you to do the same.
But how do you know when exactly to pull the trigger?
One way is to watch for MACD (moving average convergence divergence) and DMI (directional movement indicator) to crossover and agree. When they do, it's time to pull the trigger.
Let’s start with the Dow, as an example...
Take a look at the MACD and DMI on this chart of the Dow.
Notice in this chart the noticeable drop from 11,200. As soon as the Dow began to show signs of cracking at the top, DMI- (red line) crossed above DMI+ (blue line). At the same time — and this is important — MACD (12, 26), the blue line, crossed under MACD (9).
When the two agreed, we had confirmation of a big move on the way, and the market collapsed. Used alone, these two indicators — when in agreement — are powerful tools.
Here’s how we’ve used them to find natural gas stocks.
Knowing that natural gas stocks historically pop in September, we can also use MACD and DMI to determine our exact entry price. Let’s use PetroQuest (PQ) as an example here.
Notice in the chart that MACD was already displaying a bullish signal (MACD blue line was above MACD red line). We just needed DMI+ (blue line) to cross above DMI- (red line) and we had bullish confirmation for upside.
Once we got that in late August/early September in 2009, we bought and watched the stock pop from $4 lows to more than $8 in less than two months.
A 100% gain in no time at all…
It can be that easy.
In the next few weeks, we'll be issuing a brand-new report that details more quick-gain investment opportunities... So keep an eye out on your inbox.
Stay Ahead of the Curve,
Ian L. Cooper
Energy and Capital
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Aug 17 - Building Permits
Aug 17 - PPI
Aug 18 - Crude Inventories
Aug 19 - Initial Claims
Aug 19 - Leading Indicators
Aug 19 - Philadelphia Fed
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What No One Else Has Caught... Yet
By Ian Cooper | Wednesday, August 18th, 2010
I'll make this short.
Here’s what no one else will tell you with regards to natural gas: Buy it — or miss the historical September run.
You see, it doesn’t matter what the bears say. It’s time to buy natural gas while no one’s looking.
Just as I called the $4 bottom on natural gas on May 19, I’m calling for natural gas to rally once again
“You’ve heard it all before: Supply is outpacing demand… Our ability to horizontally drill for shale gas has made the supply picture seem unlimited... the short-term outlook is bleak,” I said back in May.
“But those are all fine examples of herd-mentality thinking. Contrarians, like us, though, are buying hand over fist.”
And we were right. Natural gas would spike well above $5 in coming weeks.
But, as expected, the bears are coming out again as natural gas pulls back. And as a result, they might miss out on the buying opportunity of a lifetime.
This may be because they don’t want to watch the charts:
Notice that every September — even in the steep 2008 sell-off — natural gas has spiked big.
And the reason for this annual spike is simple: Summer is typically the worst time for natural gas consumption, setting up the perfect trade for natural gas stocks around the month of September as consumption turns up.
Last summer, for example, natural gas suffered. But once September rolled around, natural gas roared from $2.50 to more than $5 by January 2010.
And it will do the same thing this year.
In fact I’m buying as much natural gas as I can right now in Pure Asset Trader… and I advise you to do the same.
But how do you know when exactly to pull the trigger?
One way is to watch for MACD (moving average convergence divergence) and DMI (directional movement indicator) to crossover and agree. When they do, it's time to pull the trigger.
Let’s start with the Dow, as an example...
Take a look at the MACD and DMI on this chart of the Dow.
Notice in this chart the noticeable drop from 11,200. As soon as the Dow began to show signs of cracking at the top, DMI- (red line) crossed above DMI+ (blue line). At the same time — and this is important — MACD (12, 26), the blue line, crossed under MACD (9).
When the two agreed, we had confirmation of a big move on the way, and the market collapsed. Used alone, these two indicators — when in agreement — are powerful tools.
Here’s how we’ve used them to find natural gas stocks.
Knowing that natural gas stocks historically pop in September, we can also use MACD and DMI to determine our exact entry price. Let’s use PetroQuest (PQ) as an example here.
Notice in the chart that MACD was already displaying a bullish signal (MACD blue line was above MACD red line). We just needed DMI+ (blue line) to cross above DMI- (red line) and we had bullish confirmation for upside.
Once we got that in late August/early September in 2009, we bought and watched the stock pop from $4 lows to more than $8 in less than two months.
A 100% gain in no time at all…
It can be that easy.
In the next few weeks, we'll be issuing a brand-new report that details more quick-gain investment opportunities... So keep an eye out on your inbox.
Stay Ahead of the Curve,
Ian L. Cooper
Energy and Capital
Related Articles
Peak Natural Gas
How To Invest in Natural Gas
Natural Gas Market Outlook
Economic Releases for the week of Monday, August 16th, 2010:
Aug 17 - Housing Starts
Aug 17 - Building Permits
Aug 17 - PPI
Aug 18 - Crude Inventories
Aug 19 - Initial Claims
Aug 19 - Leading Indicators
Aug 19 - Philadelphia Fed
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From the Archives...
A Different Way to Play the U.S. Oil Comeback
2010-08-16 - Keith Kohl
Which side are you on?
2010-08-16 - Keith Kohl
Energy & Capital's Weekend Edition
2010-08-15 - Nick Hodge
The U.S. Needs an Energy Policy
2010-08-13 - Christian A. DeHaemer
What the EIA Won't Tell You About U.S. Oil Production
2010-08-12 - Keith Kohl
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