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Greece Isn't Lost, Yet

Other debt-ridden countries have also managed to dig themselves out of similar fiscal crises.


By MICHAEL HEISE

Conventional wisdom increasingly has it that the €110 billion European Union/IMF bailout for Greece will only delay a debt restructuring. The Greek economy, so the argument goes, could not possibly pull off the required austerity program.
But back-of-the envelope calculations supposedly showing Greece's inevitable fiscal death are somewhat exaggerated. The slashing of the Greek budget deficit (13.6% of GDP last year) is actually proceeding faster than planned. The consolidation program agreed with the EU and the IMF projects for this year a deficit of 8.1%. In light of the progress in the first five months of this year, Greece might even manage to undershoot this target.
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That's partly because the government had already started to curb its spending—particularly on the investment front—before the EU and IMF imposed the current savings program. And if Greece implements the measures in full, more substantial savings will come in the second half of the year. Even if we factor in the blow that a "stabilization recession" could potentially deal to the deficit-to-GDP-ratio (the economy is expected to contract 4% this year and 2% next) the deficit could be cut roughly in half this year to between 6% and 7% of GDP. This should help restore some of the trust that the capital markets have lost in Greek fiscal policy.
For 2011, the new borrowing target is 7.6% of GDP. This is not ambitious enough. There is no sense in spreading out the pain of the consolidation process over several years. An acute confidence crisis on the capital markets can only be overcome with swift and stringent budget cuts. I believe that this is within Greece's grasp, not least as new legislation enables the government to pursue tax debtors more successfully.
It is not true that Greece is destined to suffocate under the enormous public sector interest burden. Historically, those interest rates are still relatively modest. Last year, the country was paying an average interest rate of around 4.4% on its outstanding government debt. This year, the interest rate is likely to climb to 4.8%, rising to 5% by 2014, according to European Commission data. But this would still be much lower than the 7% Greece had to pay in 2000, immediately before joining the euro. Seen from this perspective, the consolidation efforts would certainly not appear to be doomed to fail, even if the debt level does climb further.
True, at around 5% to 5.5% of GDP in the 2009-2010 period, Greek government interest payments make up a relatively large share of the economy by international standards. And that ratio looks set to rise even further in the coming quarters. Nevertheless, there are other countries, such as Italy and Brazil, that manage to get by with interest burdens on this scale. The South American country has more than once been on the brink of insolvency, but has managed to turn things around in the past 10 years by focusing on fiscal stability and debt reduction. Despite an interest burden hovering around the 6% mark in recent years, nobody is calling Brazil's solvency into question.
There are plenty of other examples of debt-ridden countries that have managed to dig their way out of their fiscal crisis within a reasonable period of time. Between 1987 and 2002, Ireland cut its debt ratio by around 80 percentage points to less than 40% from approximately 120%. Belgium cut its debt level around 50 percentage points between 1993-2007. And between 1996 and 2007, Spain managed to lower its debt ratio by more than 30 percentage points.
In Belgium's case the fiscal indicators, such as interest expenditures and debt-to-GDP ratio, were substantially worse than Greece's today, and still the country managed to emerge from the quagmire within a few years. Moreover, none of the countries mentioned were faced with the massive international political pressure that is coming down on Greece. And, in most cases, exchange-rate adjustments—which euro-zone member Greece cannot use—were only minor.
Greece's predicament is anything but a lost cause. It does not make sense to rashly evoke an unprecedented sovereign default in the euro area, which would have unforeseeable consequences for other member states and the standing of the euro as an investment currency.
Driving the campaign for debt restructuring is often the desire to ensure that private investors foot some of the bill. But debt waivers would automatically also drag in EU taxpayers, who'd be left with at least a partial write-down on the loans their governments had granted to Greece.
The best solution for Europe's taxpayers is if the situation in Greece is stabilized so that it can pay back its debt with interest. This is exactly what the Greek government has pledged to do. Let's not try to prove Athens wrong.
Mr. Heise is chief economist at Allianz.
 

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Il deficit di bilancio greco scende più del previsto

Nei primi sei mesi dell'an­no si è attestato al 4,9%, meglio del 5,8% del target


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Il deficit di bilancio della Gre­cia procede meglio rispetto al­l'obiettivo di riduzione all'8,1% del Pil nel 2010, e nei primi sei mesi dell'anno si è attestato al 4,9%, meglio del 5,8% fissato co­me target.
Lo ha detto il ministro delle Fi­nanze George Papaconstantinou, secondo la Bloomberg.
Papaconstantinou ha detto di at­tendersi che il prodotto interno lordo segni un calo di circa il 3% nel secondo trimestre. Tuttavia la previsione di un -4% per l'intero anno potrebbe dimostrarsi «ec­cessivamente pessimistica».
La Grecia si aspetta - ha aggiun­to il ministro - che l'ultima tran­che del prestito dell'Unione eu­ropea e del Fondo monetario in­ternazionale, da 9 miliardi di eu­ro, sia sborsata fra fine agosto e inizio settembre.
Intanto il Governo procede con il programma concordato e con le dismissioni, che includeranno Hellenic Rail, la rete ferroviaria nazionale. Papaconstantinou spe­ra che il Tesoro possa tornare a fi­nanziarsi sui mercati finanziari (attraverso l'emissione di titoli di Stato) nel 2011, contro una sca­denza fissata fino al 2012.


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tommy271

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Secondo me se volevano fare default l'avrebbero fatto a metà maggio. Certo l'impresa non è semplice ma hanno gli aiuti per poterne uscire. Il fatto che la Bce ha diversi mld di tds greci almeno per il breve mi fà stare + tranquillo. Ovvio che il corso degli eventi puo' cambiare la storia, quindi sempre con gli occhi aperti....

Il default a maggio avrebbe innestato una crisi senza precedenti con conseguenze catastrofiche su tutti i periferici: abbiamo visto alcune "prove" di crash test sulle borse ...
Ora le alternative non sono troppe: o la Grecia riesce a riprendersi con le proprie gambe oppure si cercherà una via di uscita lenta e ordinata.
Io propendo, attualmente, per la prima ipotesi.
 

tommy271

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Crisi: Sapelli, positivo se Grecia fa sacrifici (Sky Tg24)


MILANO (MF-DJ)--"E' positivo che la Grecia sia disposta a fare dei sacrifici per superare la crisi. Ha un'economia debole, che puo' si' crollare facilmente, ma anche ripartire altrettanto bene. Tuttavia ha un deficit pauroso e il Governo deve riuscire a far accettare i sacrifici".
Lo ha affermato l'economista Giulio Sapelli ai microfoni di Sky Tg24 Economia, rispondendo a chi gli chiedeva la sua opinione sulla capacita' della Grecia di uscire dalla crisi.
L'economista ha aggiunto che "i mercati non si fidano, nonostante le parole positive di Trichet. Stiamo andando verso una seconda recessione e la reazione dell'Italia dipendera' molto da quello che fara' la Germania. Ormai siamo troppo dipendenti dall'export: quello che accade al mondo accade anche a noi. Dobbiamo resistere ancora 6-7 mesi, poi il peggio sara' superato".
 

tommy271

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Grecia: l'economia ha imboccato la strada per liberarsi dalla crisi

2010-07-06 09:28:18 cri


Il 5 luglio, il ministro delle Finanze greco George Papaconstantinou ha affermato che l'economia del paese ha imboccato la strada per liberarsi della crisi.
Nel corso della conferenza stampa, Papaconstantinou ha osservato che secondo il piano previsto, entro la fine del 2011, il paese ridurrà il deficit finanziario dall'attuale 13.6% all' 8.1%. Nello stesso tempo, il margine della riduzione del PIL greco del 2010 sarà inferiore alla previsione del 4%.



(Radio Cina Internazionale)
 

tommy271

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Partenze sempre allargate per gli spread/bund sul decennale ma ogni giorno sempre leggermente più ristrette. Teniamo conto che sono sempre i primi scambi, servono per saggiare gli "umori" ...
Nelle ultime posizioni rientra il Belgio. New entry la Norvegia.

Grecia 876 pb. (894)
Portogallo 288 pb. (287)
Spagna 217 pb. (201)
Italia 152 pb. (145)
UK. 77 pb. (78)
Norvegia 70 pb.
Belgio 69 pb. (70)
 

tommy271

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LA STAMPA TEDESCA

Anche oggi l'Handelsblatt non molla:" Il deficit della Grecia diminuisce, il pericolo di fallimento rimane. I tagli imposti contro aspre resistenze mostrano i primi effetti, con quasi sette miliardi in meno nel deficit, ma il rischio di una bancarotta statale ancora non è stato affatto scongiurato".
 

vegar

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Ora le alternative non sono troppe: o la Grecia riesce a riprendersi con le proprie gambe oppure si cercherà una via di uscita lenta e ordinata.
Io propendo, attualmente, per la prima ipotesi.

Anche io propendo per la prima ipotesi, anche perché i margini di riduzione del deficit erano ampi.
Spero che questo recupero dia effetti benefici anche ai periferici :up:
 

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Greek default status shows further fall

By Anousha Sakoui
Published: July 5 2010 18:55 | Last updated: July 5 2010 18:55

Greece has become the second-most risky sovereign borrower in the world with credit markets indicating that it is more likely than not to default on its debts, according to a study.
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A study of credit default swap markets, which measure investor sentiment towards a borrowers’ likelihood of default, indicates that, over the past three months, Greece has jumped from ninth to second in a league table of the riskiest sovereign borrowers, compiled by data provider CMA.
Greece’s five-year CDS as at the end of the second quarter closed at 1,003.40 basis points, which is equivalent to a cost of $100,340 a year to protect $10m of Greek bonds from default over five years.
This price implies a default rate of 55.6 per cent over five years and a rating of triple C. Greece’s credit rating is much higher at double B-plus, according to Standard & Poor’s.
Indeed, the analysts at CMA said that, towards the end of the second quarter, Greece briefly overtook Venezuela as the sovereign with the highest default probability.
Mehernosh Engineer, senior credit strategist at BNP Paribas, said: “While CDS is telling you what the market is saying about a countries’ creditworthiness, it does not tell you anything about timing for a default or restructuring. Argentina has been trading at a spread of 1,000bp for two years.”
The riskiest sovereign debtPosition in second quarter 2010Cumulative probability of default over five yearsCMA implied rating1 Venezuela58.7CCC-2 Greece55.6CCC3 Argentina47.9CCC+4 Pakistan39.0B5 Ukraine35.9B6 Dubai29.4B+7 Iraq29.0B+8 Romania25.5BB-9 Latvia23.6BB-10 Bulgaria22.8BB-Source: CMA
Argentina defaulted on its debts in 2001 and is third in the top 10 with a probability of 47.9 per cent.
Romania and Bulgaria were new entrants in the top 10, at eighth and 10th place, respectively, with Latvia in ninth place.
Their probability of default ranges between 25.5 per cent for Romania and 22.8 per cent for Bulgaria, just behind Iraq, which has a probability of 29 per cent. These countries replaced Iceland and Egypt.
The top 10 safest global borrowers have not changed – they are Norway, then Finland, with the US up from 10th place to third. Belgium, Spain, Portugal and France saw the biggest deterioration in their CDS spreads over the quarter.
“The world is no longer divided into emerging market or developed market risk but it is viewed in terms of a country’s ability to repay its debts,” said Nigel Rendell, strategist at RBC. “There are several European countries in the top 10 riskiest sovereign nations, highlighting the fact that some of the gains from EU membership start to ring hollow for the likes of Bulgaria, Latvia and Romania, where it was assumed that membership promised reduced risk and lower borrowing costs.”
 
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