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Prime Minister George Papandreou spoke on the telephone to European Council President Herman van Rompuy, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton late on Thursday to inform them of the outcome of his talks with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during the latter’s visit to Athens at the beginning of the week. According to Papandreou’s office, the Greek premier traveled to Crete yesterday for a short break.

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Greece expects pressure to resolve dispute to come soon
The prime minister of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), Nikola Gruevski, said yesterday there is “nothing new” to report on talks to resolve its name dispute with Greece but sources in Athens said they expect the pressure on both countries to find a solution to be ratcheted up in the coming days. Diplomatic sources said a meeting of NATO foreign ministers is due to be held in New York next month and the issue of the name dispute will be discussed with a view to a fresh bid to accept FYROM into NATO being made when the alliance holds its summit in November.



(Kathimerini.gr)
 

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L'Argentina si trova a 825, il Venezuela un poco più avanti a 1191.
Non c'è dubbio che gli assicuratori sulla Grecia non fanno sconti ...

Non mi preoccuperei troppo dei CDS, sono strumenti speculativi che variano in relazione a quello che si vuole ottenere dal mercato e non ai dati macro. Nel caso della Grecia è stato superato il 60% di probabilità di default senza fossero avvenuti eventi specifici nei mesi scorsi.

Se si prosegue sulla strada definita dall'EU nel memorandum il debito ora stimato intorno al 130%, raggiungerebbe il 145% nel 2013 quindi meno del 150% inizialmente temuto.

Il memo indica alla Grecia cosa fare per ogni trimestre sino a fine 2011, non mi pare di aver letto misure così sconvolgenti da poter produrre agitazioni di piazza fino a tale data (liberalizzazioni, privatizzazioni, etc).
Se non ci sarà una caduta del PIL più significativa del previsto l'anno prossimo mi pare le cose siano più sotto controllo rispetto alcuni mesi fa.

Per avviare una ristrutturazione gli stessi greci dovrebbero tornare ad una situazione di deficit nullo oppure avere un avanzo che gli consentisse di pagare il deficit di almeno un paio d'anni poichè nel breve gli sarebbe negato l'accesso al mercato (in questo senso ho notato che stanno accrescendo le riserve mi auguro però per altre ragioni :D).

Ci sono variabili come la germania con personaggi da barzelletta come weber che potrebbero però scaricare la Grecia se ne avessero una convenienza locale quindi non darei nulla per scontato.
 

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Per avviare una ristrutturazione gli stessi greci dovrebbero tornare ad una situazione di deficit nullo oppure avere un avanzo che gli consentisse di pagare il deficit di almeno un paio d'anni poichè nel breve gli sarebbe negato l'accesso al mercato (in questo senso ho notato che stanno accrescendo le riserve mi auguro però per altre ragioni :D).

Ci sono variabili come la germania con personaggi da barzelletta come weber che potrebbero però scaricare la Grecia se ne avessero una convenienza locale quindi non darei nulla per scontato.

Per il momento teniamo la barra avanti a dritta ...
 

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Scusa Tommy ma in gergo marinaresco....barra a dritta....vuol dire andare tutto a destra......non che in grecia stia cambiando colore ?

Sono previste le elezioni locali a novembre, forse ci sarà un piccolo rimpasto in alcuni ministeri a settembre. Al momento la situazione all'interno del Pasok è compatta con qualche leggero distinguo.

Per barra a dritta intendevo che ci allontaniamo dai pensieri "sinistri" (lugubri). Niente a che vedere con la politica, era solo una contorsione mentale.
 

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PAPOULIAS EXPRESSED IS OPPOSITION TO NETANYAHU'S VISIT

Greek President Karolos Papoulias did not received Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to show his opposition to the Israel. The veteran Greek politician Papoulias was Greek Foreign Minister for eight years during the premiership of Anreas Papandreou. Greece did not recognized the Israel until 1991, when Andreas Papandreou was in power. Netanyahu arrived in Athens and met with Prime Minister George Papandreou and Head of center–right New Democracy Party Antonis Samaras, but other heads of Greece political parties, by declaring opposition to the establishment of ties between Athens and Tel Aviv, did not accept to meet with Netanyahu.
Labor Union, Women Union, Democratic Force Union as well as a number of other unions, by issuing statements, asked the government not to continue this talk. Simultaneously, Greek media and websites questioned Greece political ties with the Israel and said that establishment of relations with the Israel would be sharing the massacre of the innocent people of Palestine.


(Greek Reporter)
 

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Greece cannot compensate entirely for the damage that was caused by the reversal in Israel-Turkey relations.

Greece: A Strategic Alternative to Turkey?

By INSS Saturday, August 21, 2010 By Oded Eran


In less than a month the prime ministers of Israel and Greece exchanged official visits; each visit was the first of its kind. It is hard to find a precedent for this proximity of visits in the annals of Israeli diplomacy.
Until recently the low profile of their bilateral relations suited the interests of both Greece and Israel. While appearing at the Arab Economic Forum on May 20, 2010, George Papandreou noted the friendship between many Arab leaders and his father, then-Prime Minister Andreas Papandreou, and spoke about the solidarity of the Greek nation with Arab nations. He stipulated, “Israel, must respect United Nations Security Council resolutions. And of course the Arab peace initiative must be promoted. The roadmap obligations must be fulfilled, to move forward on core issues, on the basis of a two-state solution along the 1967 lines.”

There is little likelihood that the reference to the 1967 lines escaped the Israeli team that prepared for the Greek prime minister’s visit to Israel in late July and the Israeli prime minister’s visit to Greece this week (August 16-17). But it is also likely that at the same time, they eyed a no less important strategic issue, namely, containing the damage caused by the souring of relations between Israel and Turkey . The shift in Turkey’s foreign policy that has led it to draw closer to Iran, Syria, Hamas, and Hizbollah signals a significant change in the strategic balance, not only from Israel’s perspective. Cairo, Amman, Beirut, and Ramallah also see this shift as cause for concern, although perhaps with less severity than Israel. Athens almost certainly is worried by this shift in Turkey’s foreign policy, as well as the ramifications of this change and the internal processes in Turkey.

Greece cannot compensate entirely for the damage that was caused by the reversal in Israel-Turkey relations. Its willingness to approve Israeli air force exercises in its air space is an important step and to a large balances the loss of Turkey as a partner for joint exercises. However, it will be difficult to find an alternative to cooperation with Turkey on intelligence. Furthermore, thus far Israeli intelligence has not included Turkey among its intelligence targets. The changes in Turkey will require changes in Israel’s intelligence orientation.
In previous years Turkey’s size and its geopolitical location made it a major customer for Israel’s defense industry. Greece will neither want nor be able to fill this gap, and Israel will be hard pressed to make an inroad into the Greek market, dominated by American and European industries.

Possible strategic cooperation exists in the energy field. The discovery of large amounts of natural gas in the waters between Cyprus and Israel will make these states potential suppliers to Europe. Israel and Cyprus have an interest in bypassing Turkey and shortening the distance between the gas fields and the European consumer. Both its special relations with Cyprus and its location make Greece a critical link in the natural gas route. Egypt and the Palestinians might also join this effort, if natural gas reservoirs are discovered off the coast of Gaza.

Israel has a clear and natural interest in seeking even a partial substitute for its disappointing Turkish partner. The situation affirms yet again the words of Britain’s Prime Minister Palmerston, who in 1848 declared in the House of Commons, “We have no eternal allies and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow.”

When he appeared in Jerusalem on July 22 with Prime Minister Netanyahu, Prime Minister Papandreou said, “I have been asked, Mr. Prime Minister, by many here in Jerusalem why I am in Israel today.” He answered, “We are neighbors. We live in the same region and we want peace in this region,” and, “I have made it a goal to take initiatives,” which includes advancing peace in the region. Indeed, on the European landscape Papandreou is a man whose stature exceeds Greece’s borders. The informal coalition of states concerned at this time by the Turkish challenge may provide him with an important arena.

Furthermore, tourism can become an additional source of Greek income in the amount of tens of millions of dollars. If Israeli travelers replace Antalya as a major
destination with Greece and the Greek islands, this will be a useful source of revenue to an economy that not long ago needed a major financial bailout
Perhaps the neo-Hellenist option does not fully replace the strategic assets lost with the disintegration of the neo-Ottoman option, but it embodies much interesting potential that is well worth cultivating.
 

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Opposition blasts updated memorandum


Opposition political parties issued stern reactions on Saturday following the previous day’s unveiling of the closely watched updated memorandum between the Greek state and the “troika”, a landmark set of obligations that must be met to ensure continued emergency loans offered to the country.

Main opposition New Democracy (ND) party spokesman Panos Panayiotopoulos emphasized that the latest memorandum merely “brings our people more problems ... those who voted for it (memorandum) should consider their responsibility. New Democracy insists that there is another path for the country, and it has also proposed specific measures.”

A statement by the Communist Party of Greece (KKE) stated that the memorandum “is yet more proof of the barbarous and anti-popular measures have no end.”

The Radical Left Coalition (SYRIZA) party said the government and troika have failed in their policy “and have decided to implement new measures, absolutely in the same dead-end direction of the up-until-now memorandum”.

(Ana.gr)
 
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