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German FM says return to Drachma would be wrong

Schaeuble suggests exit from euro would be 'beginning of the end'



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German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble has told Focus magazine in an interview that a Greek exit from the euro “is not taboo, but I think it’s wrong,” according to Bloomberg.

Greece’s return to the drachma would be “catastrophic” for the German economy because it would trigger an appreciation of the euro, damping the country’s exports, Schaeuble told the German magazine.

Allowing countries to exit the euro temporarily would mean “the beginning of the end” of the single currency, Schaeuble told Focus. German funds directed toward aiding indebted countries are an investment in the euro, he said.

The European Economic Advisory Group (EEAG), a group of leading European economists, recommended earlier this week drastic steps to prevent the EU from having to provide Greece with long-term aid.

The EEAG suggested that Greece should either return to its national currency, the drachma, or launch even tougher austerity measures, including general cuts in wages and salaries.

ekathimerini.com , Saturday February 26, 2011 (18:48)

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Le esternazioni di Schaeuble trovano sempre buona accoglienza sulla stampa ellenica.
La dichiarazione di Schaeuble mi ricorda la motivazione per cui io sono entrato, sui titoli GGB; e cioè che aiutare la Grecia a superare la crisi, è il minor male per tutti i paesi area euro.
Mi fa piacere, in questo periodo poco felice per i nostri titoli, che un tecnico di tale calibro, faccia sentire la propria voce, a sostegno di tale tesi.
Non risolvere i problemi dell'area debole dei paesi euro, vorrebbe dire penalizzare quegli stati a pagare, oneri finanziari più elevati, quindi una condanna certa.
Ma i paesi più virtuosi, dell'area, non possono pensare che un simile fatto non vada ad incidere sulle loro economie; gli effetti di tale scenario, infatti, potrebbero addirittura far collassare l'intero sistema euro.
Non posso pensare che la Merkel, ignori tale rischio e per questo, resto ancora, fiducioso....
 

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Wen Jiabao: ringraziamento per gli aiuti della Grecia e di Malta

2011-02-27 21:21:54 cri
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Il 27 febbraio il primo ministro cinese Wen Jiabao ha inviato un messaggio ai primi ministri della Grecia e di Malta per ringraziarli, a nome del governo e del popolo cinese, per aver fornito il loro appoggio e i loro aiuti al ritiro dei cinesi dalla Libia.
Wen Jiabao ha detto che dopo la richiesta di assistenza presentata dal governo cinese alla Grecia ed a Malta, i governi dei due paesi hanno stabilito subito una buona comunicazione, fornendo ai cinesi provenienti dalla Libia la possibilità di entrare nei loro territori e garantendo loro vitto e alloggio. Ciò dimostra l'amicizia che la Grecia e Malta nutrono verso il popolo cinese e il loro eminente spirito di aiuto in una situazione di emergenza.
Wen Jiabao ha detto che nei prossimi giorni arriveranno in Grecia ed a Malta ancora molti cinesi dalla Libia e che il governo cinese li rimpatrierà quanto prima, con la speranza che i governi dei due paesi possano continuare ad appoggiare le operazioni congiunte di rimpatrio dei cinesi.


(Radio Cina Internazionale)
 

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La dichiarazione di Schaeuble mi ricorda la motivazione per cui io sono entrato, sui titoli GGB; e cioè che aiutare la Grecia a superare la crisi, è il minor male per tutti i paesi area euro.
Mi fa piacere, in questo periodo poco felice per i nostri titoli, che un tecnico di tale calibro, faccia sentire la propria voce, a sostegno di tale tesi.
Non risolvere i problemi dell'area debole dei paesi euro, vorrebbe dire penalizzare quegli stati a pagare, oneri finanziari più elevati, quindi una condanna certa.
Ma i paesi più virtuosi, dell'area, non possono pensare che un simile fatto non vada ad incidere sulle loro economie; gli effetti di tale scenario, infatti, potrebbero addirittura far collassare l'intero sistema euro.
Non posso pensare che la Merkel, ignori tale rischio e per questo, resto ancora, fiducioso....

Non dobbiamo nasconderci dietro ad un dito: la recente tournee di Papandreou in Germania e in Finlandia non ha apportato significativi miglioramenti alla discussione, come speravamo.
Le parti, al momento, rimangono sulle rispettive posizioni.

In aggiunta a questo arriverà a complicare la situazione l'Irlanda, con la richiesta di rinegoziazione del pacchetto di aiuti.
La questione rimane estremamente complessa, con la Merkel decisa a proseguire sulla sua strada.
I principali "intoppi" - in questo caso - non credo arrivino direttamente dalla Grecia, ma dagli altri paesi.

La Frau ha subordinato il prolungamento del rimborso del pacchetto di aiuti (con una riduzione del tasso di interesse) assieme alla questione EFSF, ad una politica economica più convergente tra tutti i paesi dell'area Euro.
Tra gli scogli da superare rimangono l'innalzamento della pensione a 67 anni per tutta l'area euro, la gestione dei rispettivi deficit/Pil che non debbono superare il 3,5% e tendenzialmente convergere verso il 60%, l'abolizione della tassazione di favore per gli investimenti dall'estero applicata da alcuni paesi (Irlanda in primis). Oltre ad altri dettagli ...

Non sarà facile trovare convergenze e terreni di mediazione.
Ma non esiste nessun'altra strada: il percorso è obbligato.
 
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Wen cites China's thanks for evacuation




(ΑΝΑ-ΜPA) -- Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao has addressed a letter of appreciation to Greek Prime Minister to thank Athens for its contribution over the past week to the massive evacuation of several thousand Chinese nationals from strife-plagued Libya.

Wen Jiabao cites the “deep and sincere appreciation of the Chinese people” towards the Greek PM, the Greek government, local administrations as well as to the people of Crete and all Greece.

Several thousand Chinese citizens have been evacuated to Crete from Libya aboard Greek-flagged ferry boats this past week. Most are hosted in local hotels and resorts on the popular holiday isle before taking direct charter flights back to China.

Additionally, Wen referred to the “friendly feelings towards the Chinese people and the spirit of mutual assistance demonstrated (by the Greek people) during particularly difficult times”.

Beijing said some 30,000 PRC nationals lived and worked in Libya before the recent turmoil began.

Finally, China’s premier cited expressed his hope over Papandreou’s “significant support” and as well as that of the Greek government, while the same time calling for a meeting with the Greek prime minister in the near future.

(ana.gr)

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Cinesi riconoscenti ...
 

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Greece welcomes sanctions




(ANA-MPA)Greece on Sunday welcomed the UN Security Council resolution that "proves the international community’s volition for an immediate end to the violence in Libya and a peaceful solution of the problems, with the aim of satisfying the just demands of its people".

Foreign minister Dimitris Droutsas, in a statement, reiterated Greece's absolute condemnation of the actions of the regime in Libya, as expressed by prime minister George Papandreou in Berlin, and called on the Libyan regime to immediately halt the use of violence.

Greece, he said, also expresses its support to the people of Libya and, in cooperation with its EU partners, will continue to work towards facing the situation.

Droutsas further stressed that Europe has an obligation to continue taking decisive measures aimed at the immediate termination of the violence.

(ana.gr)

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La posizione ellenica sugli accadimenti libici.
 

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LAOS leader bashes German stance


Popular Orthodox Rally (LAOS) leader George Karatzaferis launched a harsh attack on Germany, prompted by German chancellor Angela Merkel's stance towards Greece, speaking on Sunday at the annual memorial service in Vigles, Megalopolis, for the 212 people executed by the Nazi occupation forces during WWII.

Addressing the event, which was also attended by German ambassador to Greece Dr. Roland Michael Wegener, Karatzaferis likened the German occupation with German's stance today towards Greece, adding that Germany must realise that it has obligations to the peoples of Europe, and especially the Greeks.

"Back then they devastated us, and are doing so again today, economically. All these things that are happening are disappointing the Greek people regarding those who believe that they can control our lives," Karatzaferis said, stressing "we can do so ourselves".

Karatzaferis said that today's Greeks must take their example from those great Greeks of the past "because today, too, we are under a singular occupation, an economic one this time, and we must wage the battle to be able to emerge winners once again".

(ana.gr)

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La posizione del Laos, partito di opposizione di destra.
 
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I TITOLI DEI GIORNALI:

The economy and speculation of political developments after the upcoming EU summit were the main front-page items in Athens' newspapers on Sunday.



APOKALIPSEIS: "Shock and Awe with new harsh measures".

AVGHI: "Government admits its failure and attempts...jump into the void".

AVRIANI: "Full speed towards bankruptcy after the March 25 EU summit".

CHORA: "The fuse has been lit, the uprising is on the way".

ELEFTHEROS TYPOS: "Economy and elections in Merkel's hands".

ELEFTHEROTYPIA: "Memorandum Street, no. zero".

EPOCHI: "The Memorandum has gone bankrupt".

ETHNOS: "Eight parties will enter parliament (in the event of early general elections)".

KATHIMERINI: "March, month of critical decisions".

LOGOS: "No more...Memorandum, ruling PASOK MPs say".

NIKI: "Farewell to benefits and tax reliefs - The middle class will once again pay the price".

PARON: "They're pushing us to uprising".

PROTO THEMA: "Merkel provocatively blunt to Papandreou: New measures for life, otherwise back to the drachma".

REALNEWS: "Revealing MRB opinion poll: PASOK is NOT here...lead over ND falls to just 1.9 percent"

RIZOSPASTIS: "Need is ripe for popular authority".

TO VIMA: "Now or never - Papandreou's dramatic appeal to Merkel".

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Three ex-ministers identified over submarine deal

Financial Crimes Squad to deliver report to prosecutor's office



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An investigation by the financial crimes squad (SDOE) has concluded that three former ministers as well as several public officials should face prosecution over the complex purchase of four submarines by the Greek navy, Sunday’s Kathimerini understands.

SDOE is due to deliver its findings to the Athens Prosecutor's Office this coming week and Greek judicial authorities will then make a request to German authorities for details of the financial transactions involved in the purchase of the submarines.

SDOE will also ask for the bank accounts of all those alleged to be involved to be frozen.

Greece had identified technical problems with the Type 214 diesel-electric submarine, manufactured by ThyssenKrupp in Germany, as being the reason for not accepting delivery of the four vessels that it ordered between 2001 and 2005

The first submarine, dubbed Papanikolis, had been docked in Kiel from 2006 until it was finally delivered last year. There was an agreement to build three of the submarines and refurbish another three at Hellenic Shipyards, west of Athens.

It has been claimed that Ferrostaal, a subsidiary of the MAN Group until 2009, which was part of the consortium that won the contract in 2000 to supply the submarines, paid 10 to 12 million euros to secure the deal for the first of these vessels.

The agreement for the four submarines was worth 1.26 billion euros.

ekathimerini.com , Sunday February 27, 2011 (15:24)

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Sottomarini e tangenti tedesche ...
 
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Non dobbiamo nasconderci dietro ad un dito: la recente tournee di Papandreou in Germania e in Finlandia non ha apportato significativi miglioramenti alla discussione, come speravamo.
Le parti, al momento, rimangono sulle rispettive posizioni.

In aggiunta a questo arriverà a complicare la situazione l'Irlanda, con la richiesta di rinegoziazione del pacchetto di aiuti.
La questione rimane estremamente complessa, con la Merkel decisa a proseguire sulla sua strada.
I principali "intoppi" - in questo caso - non credo arrivino direttamente dalla Grecia, ma dagli altri paesi.

La Frau ha subordinato il prolungamento del rimborso del pacchetto di aiuti (con una riduzione del tasso di interesse) assieme alla questione EFSF, ad una politica economica più convergente tra tutti i paesi dell'area Euro.
Tra gli scogli da superare rimangono l'innalzamento della pensione a 67 anni per tutta l'area euro, la gestione dei rispettivi deficit/Pil che non debbono superare il 3,5% e tendenzialmente convergere verso il 60%, l'abolizione della tassazione di favore per gli investimenti dall'estero applicata da alcuni paesi (Irlanda in primis). Oltre ad altri dettagli ...

Non sarà facile trovare convergenze e terreni di mediazione.
Ma non esiste nessun'altra strada: il percorso è obbligato.
I nodi da risolvere sono innumerevoli, non sarà semplice trovare una intesa che metta tutti i paesi daccordo; ma, come hai ben detto, la strada è quella...
 

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Ireland, Greece: brothers in arms?


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By Jens Bastian






The past week provided two very different expressions of citizens’ frustrations in Greece and Ireland, the two members of the European Union at the forefront of the year-long sovereign debt crisis in the eurozone.

While Irish voters in Dublin, Cork and Limerick went to the polls, Greek citizens in Athens, Thessaloniki and Patra vented their anger by staging a week of industrial action, culminating in Wednesday’s 24-hour nationwide general strike. While people voted with their hands in one country, citizen exercised their rights with their feet and fists in the other.

In Dublin, we will now see a new government taking office. The results of the general election on Friday could not have been any clearer. More than 70 percent of the electorate cast ballots and the outcome swept the ruling coalition from power. It was the first defeat for a eurozone government since the onset of the debt crisis. The change of power in the new Dublin parliament, the Dail, produced the biggest swing in Irish politics since 1932. It’s nothing short of a democratic revolution achieved at the ballot box.

After 14 years in power, the center-right Fianna Fail has to digest its worst defeat in history. In Dublin it only won one out of 47 available seats. The anger toward the governing coalition was widespread and unrepentant. It also affected the junior partner in government, the Green Party, which lost all of its six seats and will not return to parliament.

The electoral tsunami underlines how comprehensively both parties were blamed for the property and banking crash of the past two years, leading to the humiliating IMF-EU bailout in December 2010.
The new governing coalition parties of Fine Gael (right-of-center) and Labour have a large majority in parliament. They now face the daunting task of trying to combine a renegotiation of the terms of the EU-IMF bailout with the implementation of the harsh budgetary measures needed to confront the fiscal crisis, banking sector liabilities and a deepening economic recession.

The reaction of Greeks


In contrast, the overriding majority of citizens in Greece went about their normal business and sought to get to work, despite the disruptions caused by the numerous strikes in public services and transportation. The first general strike of the year against the government’s austerity policies was a familiar replay of the events and paralysis that the previous five general strikes created during 2010. Yet again, journalists joined the walkout, forcing Greeks to turn to foreign media in order to learn about domestic affairs.

Over the course of the past months, the number of participants in demonstrations on the streets of Athens has been constantly shrinking. Meanwhile, the level of violence displayed during these rallies by a minority mob seeking to highjack them continues to be an all too familiar scene. The cause of those citizens demonstrating is not helped in the least by thugs who project an image of defiant Greece that tacitly supports violence to an international audience.

Exasperation with cuts to their income, allowances and pensions -- in particular in the public sector -- characterizes many citizens’ anger in both Greece and Ireland. This legitimate perception is based on two key assumptions that the George Papandreou government in Athens and the new coalition in Dublin have to confront. In both countries there is a pervasive feeling among most citizens that they are caught in the cogs of larger economic forces and financial players.

Neither country wants to be seen simply as taking orders from the EU or IMF. It is difficult enough for the Irish to come to terms with the steep fall from surging Celtic Tiger to class bad-boy. In both countries, the precipitous fall from prosperity to ruin has not yet reached its conclusion.

Under these circumstances we should not underestimate the fact that a change-resistant culture is alive and kicking in both countries. Resistance to structural reform is particularly strong where entrenched interests are being challenged.

Opening up so-called closed professions in Greece through legislative changes, a myriad of groups including pharmacists, lorry drivers and lawyers, continues to be resisted, including by members of Parliament across political divides, among which are many lawyers, notaries and other representatives of these liberal professions.

In Ireland, the single issue that unites both members of the outgoing government and the victorious opposition parties is defending the country’s pro-business corporate tax rate. This grand coalition in Dublin will fight “tooth and nail” to safeguard the 12.5 percent rate as non-negotiable against the perceived predators from Berlin, Paris and Brussels, who are seeking an increase in a corporate rate that is half the European Union’s average.

The corporate tax rate in Greece, currently at 25 percent, is due to fall to 20 percent in incremental steps by 2014. But this is where the commonalities between the two countries end.

In the Greek case, resisting change and watering down legislative initiatives to open up closed professions is a means to keep competition out of these sectors, prevent innovation from gaining ground and to safeguard the special interests of organized minorities.
In contrast, as controversial as the 12.5 percent Irish corporate tax rate has become for other countries in the EU, over the past decade the tax option has been used to attract investment from companies such as Google, Microsoft Corp, Dell computers, the drug producer Pfizer and financial sector firms from as far away as Hong Kong. Even firms from countries whose governments are opposed to the low corporate rate have numerous subsidiaries across the island -- for example, 250 German companies operate in Ireland.

Geography is one reason that prevents Ireland and Greece, at the continent’s opposite ends, to be the first port of call for overseas investment. But both countries have taken different paths to mitigate this constraint. Public expenditure, fiscal deficits and corporate tax rates increased in Greece during the past decade. In the Irish case, until 2010, the country showcased itself as the “Celtic Tiger” and EU poster child as regards budget deficits, public debt levels and low corporate tax rates.

Both countries are now seeking to confront their mountain of problems in consumer spending and challenges arising from government austerity measures by supporting an export-driven economic recovery. Reducing the current account deficit in Greece and improving the country’s export capacity is a major external anchor toward escaping from its worst recession on record. In the case of Ireland, it is less about regaining overseas sales then retaining high export volumes.

Export-led growth

The recovery prospects in both countries thus face huge domestic constraints and critically depend on defining an economic agenda based on export-led growth.

But in terms of foreign direct investment, export-focused companies and ease of doing business, Ireland is in a much better position than Greece. In the frontline politics of corporate taxation, including adherence to tax codes and combating tax evasion, Dublin’s point of departure relative to Athens’s is much more advantageous and appears sustainable over time.

By contrast, the policies of sectoral and professional liberalization in Greece have yet to reach their culmination, let alone unleash the competitive potential of such industries. Until this structural reform process translates into feasible gains in the real economy across Greece, Ireland will continue to be some distance ahead.

In this context, it is not necessarily essential for Ireland to successfully defend the current corporate tax rate. What the controversy with other EU competitors highlights is not so much how low or high rates should be, but the absence of a common, converging tax base across the European continent. The Irish corporate tax rate debate has, in fact, opened up a window of opportunity to discuss more broadly in what kind of tax regime the EU 27 and the eurozone’s 17 members want to conduct business in the future.

Competitiveness pact

The recent Franco-German proposal for a competitiveness pact includes the harmonization of Europe’s corporate tax base. Furthermore, the EU Commission in Brussels has tabled a plan in which companies would pay taxes in the countries where they make sales rather than where they are based and registered. Such a proposition, if adopted, would immediately and adversely affect Ireland.

In both cases, there is a rocky road ahead to travel. The Papandreou government in Athens and the incoming coalition government in Dublin have to grapple with the political acceptability of harsh austerity programs. Moreover, they must ensure their legitimacy over time, despite the measures being perceived as unfair by large parts of society in Ireland and Greece.

But Ireland may now have an advantage, which will be closely followed in Greece. As the new government takes office and seeks to renegotiate the terms and conditions of the EU-IMF bailout package, it shall discover how much leverage it has at its disposal and what flexibility the two funding institutions are willing to display. Particularly the portion of financial assistance that comes from the European Union is a major bone of contention in Dublin. The loans carry an interest rate of 5.83 percent far higher than what Greece, in similar dire straits, is currently being charged.

In that respect both countries are brothers in arms. They need greater flexibility in the conditions of financial rescue arrangements that many feel are more of a burden than a rescue package. The risks are high, including unilateral insolvency or joint default.

The course of events in Dublin and Athens is difficult to predict. Both countries will remain at the forefront of attention when charting their reform trajectories and seeking broader solutions to the ongoing eurozone crisis. The major difference between Greece and Ireland on the one side and remaining members of the eurozone on the other is that citizens in Athens and Dublin understand the distress caused by what is happening to them. Their peers in Portugal, Italy, Spain and elsewhere across the continent may find out sooner rather than later what that feels like.

* Jens Bastian is a Visiting Fellow for Southeast Europe at the University of Oxford’s St Antony’s College.






ekathimerini.com , Sunday February 27, 2011 (20:13)

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Un interessante commento tra la posizione di Grecia e Irlanda.
 
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