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Non c'e' niente da negoziare.
Sono fuori dalla reata'.....e mi chiedo se veramente se ne rendano conto.
Se vogliono tornare all' eta' della pietra....sono sul sentiero giusto
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Non c'e' niente da negoziare.
Sono fuori dalla reata'.....e mi chiedo se veramente se ne rendano conto.
Se vogliono tornare all' eta' della pietra....sono sul sentiero giusto
forzaroma
Forumer attivo
Penso che era prevedibile che l'opposizione dicesse no al piano. Non c'è mai uno spirito costruttivo in paesi dove l'agone politico è esasperato da bassi interessi di bottega (in germania con il ciufolo che succede questo, quando c'è da rimboccarsi le maniche lo si fa tutti insieme).
E dire che se il paese si trova in questa situazione è soprattutto colpa loro, visto che hanno governato fino ad un anno e mezzo fa.
L'unica cosa negativa è che la prox settimana quando il provvedimento arriverà in parlamento si assisterà alle solite contestazioni di piazza, Atene messa a ferro e fuoco dai soliti facinorosi pompati dai sindacati, attenti a non perdere il potere.
Ma come fa un paese a reggersi con il 60% di cittadini che lavora per la pubblica amministrazione ed altri enti parastatali?
E dire che se il paese si trova in questa situazione è soprattutto colpa loro, visto che hanno governato fino ad un anno e mezzo fa.
L'unica cosa negativa è che la prox settimana quando il provvedimento arriverà in parlamento si assisterà alle solite contestazioni di piazza, Atene messa a ferro e fuoco dai soliti facinorosi pompati dai sindacati, attenti a non perdere il potere.
Ma come fa un paese a reggersi con il 60% di cittadini che lavora per la pubblica amministrazione ed altri enti parastatali?
METHOS
Forumer storico
Bè da noi nel 92 non era così, pur di non tagliarsi privilegi (politici) ci hanno dato sotto.
tommy271
Forumer storico
Il primo obiettivo sarà ritornare entro un range di 800/900 pb.
tommy271
Forumer storico
Greece must cut benefits to get aid: Germany CDU panel
BERLIN | Tue May 24, 2011 8:54am EDT
BERLIN (Reuters) - Debt-laden euro zone countries should only receive further financial aid if they cut social benefits, a pro-business panel in German Chancellor Angela Merkel's ruling conservatives said on Tuesday.
The economic panel of Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) said it was not enough for Greece to cut its retirement age to German levels.
Greek pensions are still around 94 percent of average Greek income, while Germans get only 40 percent, said panel head Kurt Lauk, who is not a member of Germany's parliament.
The Bundestag, or lower house of parliament, has no say in the paying out of individual tranches of aid in Greece's bailout agreed last year, but it would be involved in signing off on any further bailout for Greece.
"There can only be aid to bust countries if they pay lower social benefits than the giving countries," said Lauk.
He also criticized Greece for having four times as many public servants as Austria, a country of similar size. At 39.6 percent Greece also recorded the highest increase in wages in the euro zone from 2000 to 2008, Lauk said. In Austria, wages only rose by 2.9 percent.
Greece kick-started a stalled privatization program on Monday and promised tougher austerity measures and tax hikes to meet EU/IMF conditions for the release of a 12 billion euro loan tranche in June, vital for keeping Athens afloat.
EU leaders declared they had adopted a comprehensive package to resolve the euro zone debt crisis in March, but that has not prevented contagion spreading, with Portugal requiring a bailout and markets piling pressure on Greece, Spain, Italy and Belgium.
"Greece must save, reform and most of all privatize," Lauk said. Peripheral euro zone countries should only receive financial aid if they introduce rigid debt brakes into their constitutions, like in Germany, Lauk added.
BERLIN | Tue May 24, 2011 8:54am EDT
BERLIN (Reuters) - Debt-laden euro zone countries should only receive further financial aid if they cut social benefits, a pro-business panel in German Chancellor Angela Merkel's ruling conservatives said on Tuesday.
The economic panel of Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats (CDU) said it was not enough for Greece to cut its retirement age to German levels.
Greek pensions are still around 94 percent of average Greek income, while Germans get only 40 percent, said panel head Kurt Lauk, who is not a member of Germany's parliament.
The Bundestag, or lower house of parliament, has no say in the paying out of individual tranches of aid in Greece's bailout agreed last year, but it would be involved in signing off on any further bailout for Greece.
"There can only be aid to bust countries if they pay lower social benefits than the giving countries," said Lauk.
He also criticized Greece for having four times as many public servants as Austria, a country of similar size. At 39.6 percent Greece also recorded the highest increase in wages in the euro zone from 2000 to 2008, Lauk said. In Austria, wages only rose by 2.9 percent.
Greece kick-started a stalled privatization program on Monday and promised tougher austerity measures and tax hikes to meet EU/IMF conditions for the release of a 12 billion euro loan tranche in June, vital for keeping Athens afloat.
EU leaders declared they had adopted a comprehensive package to resolve the euro zone debt crisis in March, but that has not prevented contagion spreading, with Portugal requiring a bailout and markets piling pressure on Greece, Spain, Italy and Belgium.
"Greece must save, reform and most of all privatize," Lauk said. Peripheral euro zone countries should only receive financial aid if they introduce rigid debt brakes into their constitutions, like in Germany, Lauk added.
tommy271
Forumer storico
Piraeus Port: Losses of €3.3m In Q1 2011
Piraeus Port reported losses of €3.3 mil. in the first quarter of 2011 against profits of €3.64mil. in the respective period of 2010, while losses after taxes (current and deferred) amount to €2.92 mil., against profits of €1.73 mil. in the relevant period of 2010.
The turnover amounted to €22.72 mil in the first quarter of 2011, against €33.69 mil in the corresponding period last year, recording a decrease of 32.7%, said Piraeus Port Authority in an announcement.
Exempting the cruise sector which is recording an increase, almost all other activities are recording a significant decline against the relevant period of 2010.
Moreover, Container Terminal revenues, amount to €6.15 mil., resulting to increased revenues from stevedoring and storage operations. However the amounts are not comparable with the first quarter of 2010, since the new Container Terminal Pier I, was not yet operational and there were no corresponding revenues. It is noted that the revenues from the concession of Pier II & III, no longer include revenues for services provided from P.P.A S.A staff to Pier II (Payment of P.P.A. SA payroll cost from P.C.T S.A). These revenues in the relevant period of 2010 amounted to €13.25 mil.
Other operational revenues increased by 35.34% amounting to €2.32 mil., against €1.72 mil. in the relevant period of 2010, mainly due to an increase of rental income.
Total operating expenses for the period amounted to €27.25 mil., against €31.48 mil. in the same period of 2010, recording a reduction by 13.42%. The reduction is mainly attributed to the payroll cut in accordance with the L3845/2010 regarding the austerity measures for the State fiscal plan as well as to the reduction of personnel due to the application of V.R.P with the payroll cost reduced by 28.15% against the relevant period of 2010.
Consumption of spares and consumables for the Q1 of 2011 amounted to €421.4 thous. €128.4 thous. in the relevant period of 2010, that Pier I was not in operation.
Asset depreciation incorporated in the operational cost increased by 50%, amounting to €4.12 mil. against €2.73 mil. in the relevant period of 2010. This increase is attributed to the commencement of operations at Pier I container terminal as from 1/6/2010, that has been incorporated in the operational cost.
Cash and cash equivalents on 31/03/2011 amounted to €4.92mil. against €8.20 mil. on 31/12/2010.
(capital.gr)
Piraeus Port reported losses of €3.3 mil. in the first quarter of 2011 against profits of €3.64mil. in the respective period of 2010, while losses after taxes (current and deferred) amount to €2.92 mil., against profits of €1.73 mil. in the relevant period of 2010.
The turnover amounted to €22.72 mil in the first quarter of 2011, against €33.69 mil in the corresponding period last year, recording a decrease of 32.7%, said Piraeus Port Authority in an announcement.
Exempting the cruise sector which is recording an increase, almost all other activities are recording a significant decline against the relevant period of 2010.
Moreover, Container Terminal revenues, amount to €6.15 mil., resulting to increased revenues from stevedoring and storage operations. However the amounts are not comparable with the first quarter of 2010, since the new Container Terminal Pier I, was not yet operational and there were no corresponding revenues. It is noted that the revenues from the concession of Pier II & III, no longer include revenues for services provided from P.P.A S.A staff to Pier II (Payment of P.P.A. SA payroll cost from P.C.T S.A). These revenues in the relevant period of 2010 amounted to €13.25 mil.
Other operational revenues increased by 35.34% amounting to €2.32 mil., against €1.72 mil. in the relevant period of 2010, mainly due to an increase of rental income.
Total operating expenses for the period amounted to €27.25 mil., against €31.48 mil. in the same period of 2010, recording a reduction by 13.42%. The reduction is mainly attributed to the payroll cut in accordance with the L3845/2010 regarding the austerity measures for the State fiscal plan as well as to the reduction of personnel due to the application of V.R.P with the payroll cost reduced by 28.15% against the relevant period of 2010.
Consumption of spares and consumables for the Q1 of 2011 amounted to €421.4 thous. €128.4 thous. in the relevant period of 2010, that Pier I was not in operation.
Asset depreciation incorporated in the operational cost increased by 50%, amounting to €4.12 mil. against €2.73 mil. in the relevant period of 2010. This increase is attributed to the commencement of operations at Pier I container terminal as from 1/6/2010, that has been incorporated in the operational cost.
Cash and cash equivalents on 31/03/2011 amounted to €4.92mil. against €8.20 mil. on 31/12/2010.
(capital.gr)
tommy271
Forumer storico
Greek Opposition Turns Down Papandreou’s Call for Unity
By Maria Petrakis - May 24, 2011 4:13 PM GMT+0200 Tue May 24 14:13:35 GMT 2011
Greece’s biggest opposition party rejected Prime Minister George Papandreou’s overture to build support for 78 billion euros ($110 billion) of new budget measures and state-asset sales, saying he is condemning Greeks to more austerity.
“Papandreou is insisting on the same old failed recipe,” Antonis Samaras, leader of the New Democracy party, said in comments broadcast live today on state-run NET TV. “The government is subjecting the Greek people to new sacrifices as it regurgitates what’s been shown to have failed so far.”
Samaras, who spoke after meeting with Papandreou in Athens, said his party would support state-asset sales provided they led to growth and investment rather than being a “panicky move.”
European Union officials have stepped up pressure on Papandreou, whose term ends in 2013, to secure broad political backing for the spending cuts and asset sales that will run through to 2015, as the euro region and the International Monetary Fund discuss additional financing needs to avert a default. Greece received a 110 billion-euro bailout last May in return for measures including wage and pension cuts.
EU Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn said on May 11 that it was “absolutely necessary and urgent” for domestic disputes to be put aside and cross-party support achieved.
Budget Deficit
Papandreou said yesterday he’d step up plans to sell state assets including Hellenic Telecommunications Organization SA (HTO) and Public Power Corp SA (PPC) and pledged 6.4 billion euros of measures to bring the budget deficit down to 7.5 percent of gross domestic product this year. He met with political leaders today.
He got some support from George Karatzaferis, leader of the rightist Laos Party, which backed the original bailout, as well as Dora Bakogiannis, a former foreign minister who was expelled from New Democracy for breaking ranks and supporting Papandreou. She now heads her own party, Democratic Alliance, which has five seats in parliament.
“Samaras’s response was widely expected,” said Dimitris Drakopoulos, an economist at Nomura International Plc in London. “What is clearly positive is the support of the leaders of the two small right-wing parties. They have at least 20 MPs, which should provide enough of a buffer for the government to pass its medium-term fiscal strategy through parliament.”
Papandreou’s Pasok party has 156 seats in the 300-seat parliament, enough needed to pass the legislation, which is expected next month. He expelled three members of his party last year for defying him on the vote of the original rescue.
Communist Party of Greece leader Aleka Papariga, with 21 seats, refused to meet with Papandreou. Leftist Syriza leader Alexis Tsipras, whose party has nine seats, called for elections after seeing Papandreou.
“If what we’re being asked to do is to sell even the Acropolis, then the only people who can respond are the Greek people and not Papandreou,” Tsipras said.
(Bloomberg)
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Papandreou dovrebbe incassare il sostegno del partito della destra ortodossa/clericale "Laos" e del raggruppamento di centro di Dora Bakoyannis "Alleanza Democratica" composta da fuoriusciti da ND.
By Maria Petrakis - May 24, 2011 4:13 PM GMT+0200 Tue May 24 14:13:35 GMT 2011
Greece’s biggest opposition party rejected Prime Minister George Papandreou’s overture to build support for 78 billion euros ($110 billion) of new budget measures and state-asset sales, saying he is condemning Greeks to more austerity.
“Papandreou is insisting on the same old failed recipe,” Antonis Samaras, leader of the New Democracy party, said in comments broadcast live today on state-run NET TV. “The government is subjecting the Greek people to new sacrifices as it regurgitates what’s been shown to have failed so far.”
Samaras, who spoke after meeting with Papandreou in Athens, said his party would support state-asset sales provided they led to growth and investment rather than being a “panicky move.”
European Union officials have stepped up pressure on Papandreou, whose term ends in 2013, to secure broad political backing for the spending cuts and asset sales that will run through to 2015, as the euro region and the International Monetary Fund discuss additional financing needs to avert a default. Greece received a 110 billion-euro bailout last May in return for measures including wage and pension cuts.
EU Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn said on May 11 that it was “absolutely necessary and urgent” for domestic disputes to be put aside and cross-party support achieved.
Budget Deficit
Papandreou said yesterday he’d step up plans to sell state assets including Hellenic Telecommunications Organization SA (HTO) and Public Power Corp SA (PPC) and pledged 6.4 billion euros of measures to bring the budget deficit down to 7.5 percent of gross domestic product this year. He met with political leaders today.
He got some support from George Karatzaferis, leader of the rightist Laos Party, which backed the original bailout, as well as Dora Bakogiannis, a former foreign minister who was expelled from New Democracy for breaking ranks and supporting Papandreou. She now heads her own party, Democratic Alliance, which has five seats in parliament.
“Samaras’s response was widely expected,” said Dimitris Drakopoulos, an economist at Nomura International Plc in London. “What is clearly positive is the support of the leaders of the two small right-wing parties. They have at least 20 MPs, which should provide enough of a buffer for the government to pass its medium-term fiscal strategy through parliament.”
Papandreou’s Pasok party has 156 seats in the 300-seat parliament, enough needed to pass the legislation, which is expected next month. He expelled three members of his party last year for defying him on the vote of the original rescue.
Communist Party of Greece leader Aleka Papariga, with 21 seats, refused to meet with Papandreou. Leftist Syriza leader Alexis Tsipras, whose party has nine seats, called for elections after seeing Papandreou.
“If what we’re being asked to do is to sell even the Acropolis, then the only people who can respond are the Greek people and not Papandreou,” Tsipras said.
(Bloomberg)
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Papandreou dovrebbe incassare il sostegno del partito della destra ortodossa/clericale "Laos" e del raggruppamento di centro di Dora Bakoyannis "Alleanza Democratica" composta da fuoriusciti da ND.
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