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hai ragione, le avevo dimenticate ... se non per me, almeno per il mio portafogli
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tommy271
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Carstens Sees World Bank Role in Greece
By BOB DAVIS
BEIJING—The World Bank should be involved in rescuing Greece because it could provide loans to help the country reform its economy and reduce the bill for other creditors, Mexico's central bank chief Agustin Carstens said Thursday.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Carstens also said a restructuring of Greek bonds should only be a last resort to the country's continued debt woes.
Europe shouldn't lose sight of the ultimate goal of enabling Greece to return to the markets, despite public discontent over the terms of aid from the International Monetary Fund and the European Union.
More flexibility in the yuan's exchange rate would be "appropriate" as it could help smooth the process of global economic rebalancing, Mr. Carstens said.
Mr. Carstens was speaking after meeting with Chinese officials in Beijing to explain his candidacy for the International Monetary Fund's top job.
Meanwhile, French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde sounded upbeat on her rival bid for the IMF's top job Thursday, as she confirmed that the selection process will finish by the end of June.
"It's ongoing and I'm extremely confident," Ms. Lagarde said before delivering a speech at a corporate lawyers event in Paris. "It'll be completed before the end of June."
By BOB DAVIS
BEIJING—The World Bank should be involved in rescuing Greece because it could provide loans to help the country reform its economy and reduce the bill for other creditors, Mexico's central bank chief Agustin Carstens said Thursday.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Carstens also said a restructuring of Greek bonds should only be a last resort to the country's continued debt woes.
Europe shouldn't lose sight of the ultimate goal of enabling Greece to return to the markets, despite public discontent over the terms of aid from the International Monetary Fund and the European Union.
More flexibility in the yuan's exchange rate would be "appropriate" as it could help smooth the process of global economic rebalancing, Mr. Carstens said.
Mr. Carstens was speaking after meeting with Chinese officials in Beijing to explain his candidacy for the International Monetary Fund's top job.
Meanwhile, French Finance Minister Christine Lagarde sounded upbeat on her rival bid for the IMF's top job Thursday, as she confirmed that the selection process will finish by the end of June.
"It's ongoing and I'm extremely confident," Ms. Lagarde said before delivering a speech at a corporate lawyers event in Paris. "It'll be completed before the end of June."
lorixnt2
Hari Seldon's fan
considerando che l'unica lira a corso legale rimasta e' quella turca, quarantamila mi sembra un importo esagerato
ma suvvìa gau non mi vorrai mica dire che il default italiano fa paura anche a te?
tommy271
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GRECIA: BINI SMAGHI, SENZA RIFORME SARA' DEFAULT E SAREBBE UN DISASTRO
(ASCA) - Citta' del Vaticano, 16 giu - ''Anche se la Grecia ha gia' riformato le pensioni le rimangono ancora tante altre riforme da fare'', anche se sono ''difficili''. E' l'avvertimento di Lorenzo Bini Smaghi membro del board della Bce che ha messo in guardia pero' che ''l'alternativa'' per il paese sarebbe ''molto peggiore, perche' il default e' un disastro per un paese soprattutto di un paese avanzato''.
''I risparmi - ha spiegato - di molte persone sarebbero compromessi, il sistema finanziario collasserebbe''. Per Bini Smaghi, ''alla fine e' una scelta della Grecia. La Grecia non e' un paese povero ma un'economia avanzata, e' nelle sue mani fare le scelte giuste per i poveri''.
Bini Smaghi poi giudica ''un peccato'' lo ''strano gioco'' dell'opposizione greca in vista del voto sul programma di austerity del paese. Rispondendo alle domande dei participanti dell'Executive Summit on Ethics for Business World in Vaticano sulla crisi del paese, Bini Smaghi ha sottolineato che la Grecia deve decidere se vuole essere un paese ''normale''. Se lo vuole, ha spiegato, ''e vediamo che e' molto difficile essere normale come gli altri, perche' ci sono lobby, ci sono scelte difficili da compiere, ma sono scelte gia' fatte da altri paesi nel passato''. ''E' per questo che aspettiamo il voto nel Parlamento greco. Devo dire che e' un peccato che l'opposizione stia facendo questo gioco strano su questo punto, perche' in Portogallo e in certa misura anche in Irlanda c'e' un processo decisionale comune tra opposizione e governo'', ha detto Bini Smaghi.
''Se la Grecia accetta penso che sia bene per il resto dell'Unione europea aiutare la Grecia''.
(ASCA) - Citta' del Vaticano, 16 giu - ''Anche se la Grecia ha gia' riformato le pensioni le rimangono ancora tante altre riforme da fare'', anche se sono ''difficili''. E' l'avvertimento di Lorenzo Bini Smaghi membro del board della Bce che ha messo in guardia pero' che ''l'alternativa'' per il paese sarebbe ''molto peggiore, perche' il default e' un disastro per un paese soprattutto di un paese avanzato''.
''I risparmi - ha spiegato - di molte persone sarebbero compromessi, il sistema finanziario collasserebbe''. Per Bini Smaghi, ''alla fine e' una scelta della Grecia. La Grecia non e' un paese povero ma un'economia avanzata, e' nelle sue mani fare le scelte giuste per i poveri''.
Bini Smaghi poi giudica ''un peccato'' lo ''strano gioco'' dell'opposizione greca in vista del voto sul programma di austerity del paese. Rispondendo alle domande dei participanti dell'Executive Summit on Ethics for Business World in Vaticano sulla crisi del paese, Bini Smaghi ha sottolineato che la Grecia deve decidere se vuole essere un paese ''normale''. Se lo vuole, ha spiegato, ''e vediamo che e' molto difficile essere normale come gli altri, perche' ci sono lobby, ci sono scelte difficili da compiere, ma sono scelte gia' fatte da altri paesi nel passato''. ''E' per questo che aspettiamo il voto nel Parlamento greco. Devo dire che e' un peccato che l'opposizione stia facendo questo gioco strano su questo punto, perche' in Portogallo e in certa misura anche in Irlanda c'e' un processo decisionale comune tra opposizione e governo'', ha detto Bini Smaghi.
''Se la Grecia accetta penso che sia bene per il resto dell'Unione europea aiutare la Grecia''.
tommy271
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PM under pressure, emergency meeting called [update]
Papandreou's reshuffle plans in doubt as MPs quit, EU expresses 'regret' over failed coalition talks
Greece's beleaguered Prime Minister George Papandreou’s plans to unveil a new Cabinet on Thursday before seeking a vote of confidence from Parliament later in the week were thrown into disarray after two PASOK deputies quit his socialist party.
Meanwhile, in Brussels, the European Union's top economic official said it was “regrettable” that talks on Wednesday between the leaders of Greece's two mainstream parties over forming a union coalition fell through, but expressed confidence that the debt-chocked country will push with the requisite reforms and spending cuts by the end of June.
Although the resignations of Giorgos Floridis and Ektoras Nasiokas did not affect the government’s five-seat majority in Parliament, as the deputies gave up their seats, they put intense pressure on Papandreou.
There are now calls for him to go from within PASOK. In response to the rising pressure, PASOK's headquarters issued a statement saying that Papandreou would chair an emergency session of the party's parliamentary group at 4.30 p.m. to discuss what the government's next steps should be. Prominent PASOK deputy and former minister Vasso Papandreou told reporters that the issue of a possible party leadership change would be among those on the agenda.
A key member of the Cabinet stressed the importance of presenting a united front. “In these tragic circumstances, we all have to be united,” Health Minister Andreas Loverdos told Parliament.
However, the mood among PASOK MPs was not one of patience and understanding.
“The country is descending into chaos,” Piraeus deputy Dimitris Lintzeris told Skai radio on Thursday. “There is a deficit in terms of the country’s governance. I am calling on PASOK’s top officials to assume their responsibilities,” he said.
Sources close to the prime minister insisted that his plans for a Cabinet reshuffle would not be affected by Thursday’s resignations.
Coalition talks
Following a day of speculation, Papandreou announced in a televised address late on Wednesday that he would reshuffle his Cabinet. He admitted that he had discussed the possibility of forming a coalition government with New Democracy.
The deal may have involved Papandreou stepping down but the premier said he pulled the offer off the table when the opposition party leaked details of the story.
New Democracy leader Antonis Samaras responded by blaming Papandreou for the talks collapsing. The ND leader demanded snap elections.
According to sources, the two leaders spoke three times on Wednesday. In the first phone call, Papandreou proposed forming a government of national unity. Samaras reportedly asked for a change of Cabinet and prime minister. In the second call, Samaras added the demand that a date should be set for general elections. The third time the men spoke, Papandreou informed Samaras that he could not agree to his demands.
EU reaction
In Brussels, Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn on Thursday said it was “regrettable that the efforts to build national unity [in Greece] failed yesterday.”
But he said he expected the parliament to pass new austerity measures.
“We expect the Greek Parliament to endorse the economic reform program as agreed by the end of June,” Rehn said. “The efforts needed to avoid a default -- which would be a catastrophe for Greece -- are the responsibility of all political forces.”
In Athens, Greece's president on Thursday urged the country's politicians to show responsibility.
“In this crucial period we must all be responsible to make sure we do not allow the economic crisis to turn into a political one,” President Karolos Papoulias said in a written statement.
Sources told Kathimerini that Papandreou plans to form a Cabinet of 15 ministers that will probably include two or three non-political figures. Former European Central Bank vice president Lucas Papademos is one of those linked with a position in the new Cabinet.
Having announced a new Cabinet, Papandreou is then likely to seek on Sunday a vote of confidence from Parliament. Effectively, this means that he will be seeking the support of his own MPs as a mandate to continue with the austerity measures set out in the government’s medium term fiscal plan.
PASOK has 155 of the 300 seats in Parliament, having seen five of its MPs leave the party to sit as independents or form their own political grouping since it came to power in November 2009.
ekathimerini.com , Thursday June 16, 2011 (16:23)
Papandreou's reshuffle plans in doubt as MPs quit, EU expresses 'regret' over failed coalition talks
Greece's beleaguered Prime Minister George Papandreou’s plans to unveil a new Cabinet on Thursday before seeking a vote of confidence from Parliament later in the week were thrown into disarray after two PASOK deputies quit his socialist party.
Meanwhile, in Brussels, the European Union's top economic official said it was “regrettable” that talks on Wednesday between the leaders of Greece's two mainstream parties over forming a union coalition fell through, but expressed confidence that the debt-chocked country will push with the requisite reforms and spending cuts by the end of June.
Although the resignations of Giorgos Floridis and Ektoras Nasiokas did not affect the government’s five-seat majority in Parliament, as the deputies gave up their seats, they put intense pressure on Papandreou.
There are now calls for him to go from within PASOK. In response to the rising pressure, PASOK's headquarters issued a statement saying that Papandreou would chair an emergency session of the party's parliamentary group at 4.30 p.m. to discuss what the government's next steps should be. Prominent PASOK deputy and former minister Vasso Papandreou told reporters that the issue of a possible party leadership change would be among those on the agenda.
A key member of the Cabinet stressed the importance of presenting a united front. “In these tragic circumstances, we all have to be united,” Health Minister Andreas Loverdos told Parliament.
However, the mood among PASOK MPs was not one of patience and understanding.
“The country is descending into chaos,” Piraeus deputy Dimitris Lintzeris told Skai radio on Thursday. “There is a deficit in terms of the country’s governance. I am calling on PASOK’s top officials to assume their responsibilities,” he said.
Sources close to the prime minister insisted that his plans for a Cabinet reshuffle would not be affected by Thursday’s resignations.
Coalition talks
Following a day of speculation, Papandreou announced in a televised address late on Wednesday that he would reshuffle his Cabinet. He admitted that he had discussed the possibility of forming a coalition government with New Democracy.
The deal may have involved Papandreou stepping down but the premier said he pulled the offer off the table when the opposition party leaked details of the story.
New Democracy leader Antonis Samaras responded by blaming Papandreou for the talks collapsing. The ND leader demanded snap elections.
According to sources, the two leaders spoke three times on Wednesday. In the first phone call, Papandreou proposed forming a government of national unity. Samaras reportedly asked for a change of Cabinet and prime minister. In the second call, Samaras added the demand that a date should be set for general elections. The third time the men spoke, Papandreou informed Samaras that he could not agree to his demands.
EU reaction
In Brussels, Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn on Thursday said it was “regrettable that the efforts to build national unity [in Greece] failed yesterday.”
But he said he expected the parliament to pass new austerity measures.
“We expect the Greek Parliament to endorse the economic reform program as agreed by the end of June,” Rehn said. “The efforts needed to avoid a default -- which would be a catastrophe for Greece -- are the responsibility of all political forces.”
In Athens, Greece's president on Thursday urged the country's politicians to show responsibility.
“In this crucial period we must all be responsible to make sure we do not allow the economic crisis to turn into a political one,” President Karolos Papoulias said in a written statement.
Sources told Kathimerini that Papandreou plans to form a Cabinet of 15 ministers that will probably include two or three non-political figures. Former European Central Bank vice president Lucas Papademos is one of those linked with a position in the new Cabinet.
Having announced a new Cabinet, Papandreou is then likely to seek on Sunday a vote of confidence from Parliament. Effectively, this means that he will be seeking the support of his own MPs as a mandate to continue with the austerity measures set out in the government’s medium term fiscal plan.
PASOK has 155 of the 300 seats in Parliament, having seen five of its MPs leave the party to sit as independents or form their own political grouping since it came to power in November 2009.
ekathimerini.com , Thursday June 16, 2011 (16:23)
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tommy271
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Second PASOK deputy quits Parliament
Ektoras Nasiokas joins Giorgos Floridis and puts extreme pressure on PM Papandreou
Ektoras Nasiokas became the second PASOK MP to quit his post on Thursday, claiming the government had reached a dead-end after Prime Minister George Papandreou’s botched attempt to form a government of national unity a day earlier.
Details of Nasiokas’s resignation letter have not been made public yet but like Giorgos Floridis who resigned earlier in the day, it appears that the Larissa MP will be quitting Parliament altogether and not staying on an as an independent.
This is crucial for Prime Minister George Papandreou as Nasiokas will be replaced by another PASOK candidate, meaning the government will retain its 155 seats in Parliament.
While a five-seat majority could be enough to see the government survive the vote of confidence called by Papandreou, it now seems doubtful whether the prime minister himself will be able to continue.
Nasiokas is the third PASOK deputy to resign this week and there are rumors that other Socialist deputies are planning a revolt against Papandreou.
Lawmaker Vasso Papandreou has called for an immediate meeting of PASOK’s parliamentary group.
ekathimerini.com , Thursday June 16, 2011 (13:23)
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Perlomeno questi sono onesti, si dimettono dal PASOK e lasciano il posto ad altri.
In altre nazioni, invece, rimangono con la sedia attaccata.
Ektoras Nasiokas joins Giorgos Floridis and puts extreme pressure on PM Papandreou
Ektoras Nasiokas became the second PASOK MP to quit his post on Thursday, claiming the government had reached a dead-end after Prime Minister George Papandreou’s botched attempt to form a government of national unity a day earlier.
Details of Nasiokas’s resignation letter have not been made public yet but like Giorgos Floridis who resigned earlier in the day, it appears that the Larissa MP will be quitting Parliament altogether and not staying on an as an independent.
This is crucial for Prime Minister George Papandreou as Nasiokas will be replaced by another PASOK candidate, meaning the government will retain its 155 seats in Parliament.
While a five-seat majority could be enough to see the government survive the vote of confidence called by Papandreou, it now seems doubtful whether the prime minister himself will be able to continue.
Nasiokas is the third PASOK deputy to resign this week and there are rumors that other Socialist deputies are planning a revolt against Papandreou.
Lawmaker Vasso Papandreou has called for an immediate meeting of PASOK’s parliamentary group.
ekathimerini.com , Thursday June 16, 2011 (13:23)
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Perlomeno questi sono onesti, si dimettono dal PASOK e lasciano il posto ad altri.
In altre nazioni, invece, rimangono con la sedia attaccata.
forzaroma
Forumer attivo
Il sole24 dice che la Cina è disposta ad intervenire...speriamo bene, perchè a questo punto c'è bisogno di un'azione di forza.
I bond a lunga scadenza sono già a livello post-default. Dico questo perchè l'argentina a suo tempo ristrutturando il debito elargì obbligazioni 2033 quotandole 33 (per la cedola lasciamo perdere) più un bond legato al Pil, che dopo qualche tempo quotava 10. Quindi 33+10=43.
I bond a lunga scadenza sono già a livello post-default. Dico questo perchè l'argentina a suo tempo ristrutturando il debito elargì obbligazioni 2033 quotandole 33 (per la cedola lasciamo perdere) più un bond legato al Pil, che dopo qualche tempo quotava 10. Quindi 33+10=43.
forzaroma
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Second PASOK deputy quits Parliament
Ektoras Nasiokas joins Giorgos Floridis and puts extreme pressure on PM Papandreou
Ektoras Nasiokas became the second PASOK MP to quit his post on Thursday, claiming the government had reached a dead-end after Prime Minister George Papandreou’s botched attempt to form a government of national unity a day earlier.
Details of Nasiokas’s resignation letter have not been made public yet but like Giorgos Floridis who resigned earlier in the day, it appears that the Larissa MP will be quitting Parliament altogether and not staying on an as an independent.
This is crucial for Prime Minister George Papandreou as Nasiokas will be replaced by another PASOK candidate, meaning the government will retain its 155 seats in Parliament.
While a five-seat majority could be enough to see the government survive the vote of confidence called by Papandreou, it now seems doubtful whether the prime minister himself will be able to continue.
Nasiokas is the third PASOK deputy to resign this week and there are rumors that other Socialist deputies are planning a revolt against Papandreou.
Lawmaker Vasso Papandreou has called for an immediate meeting of PASOK’s parliamentary group.
ekathimerini.com , Thursday June 16, 2011 (13:23)
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Perlomeno questi sono onesti, si dimettono dal PASOK e lasciano il posto ad altri.
In altre nazioni, invece, rimangono con la sedia attaccata.
Si, ma ai nostri fini continua ad essere un disastro. Se perdono pezzi chi lo vota sto benedetto piano.
tommy271
Forumer storico
Si, ma ai nostri fini continua ad essere un disastro. Se perdono pezzi chi lo vota sto benedetto piano.
Questi che si sono dimessi, in disaccordo con la linea politica del Pasok, lasciano il posto a fedelissimi di Papandreou.
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