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Ho la senzazione che verranno delistati

Delistare?
Probabilmente durante lo swap potrebbero essere sospesi per il tempo necessario al concambio.

Non è il momento più opportuno per parlare di "sensazioni" visto che davanti i book ci siamo noi 43 collegati e nessun altro :D
A maggior ragione quando destituite di ogni fondamento procedurale.
In genere negli swap o nelle OPS o nei buy back non c'è alcuna sospensione nelle contrattazioni e infatti nel caso delle OPS, OPA e buyback i prezzi schizzano subito al livello di equilibrio dato dai prezzi offerti.
 

russiabond

Il mito, la leggenda.
adesso però spiegami perchè per un rischio distressed ti sei beccato il rischio max delle scadenze brevi e non sei entrato massiccio su una 2040....

con 600k nominali pagavi 228k ( più rateo) e avevi una cedola annua di 27600 euro/anno : 2300 euro lordi/mese (una pensione). Se le cose vanno male non implodi con tutta la grecia dato che potranno al max cuttare con recovery tra i 20-30% e il rischio riscadenziamento è minore...
Se le cose vanno bene potrai fare comunque un 30-40% subito entro un anno. Oppure (ma non mi sembra il tuo caso) incassare una pensione vitalizia pagata gentilmente dallo stato greco.
Sinceramente nel secondo caso andrei a vivere in qualche bella isoletta greca (se hai anche qualche altro reddito) il resto della mia vita.

Ovviamente operazione ad alto rischio.
Ricordati che però è più lecito pensare a un vitalizio pagato da uno stato UE (seppur malconcio) che da una general motors qualunque.


La risposta te la darò se ci sarà DEFAULT ....ma intanto mi sembra che tu debba aspettare ancora ...:lol:
 

fabriziof

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dal forum delle perpetue:
Scadenza 9 set cancellata...Mah
A proposed bond exchange program between Greece and its private-sector creditors is expected to take place sometime in October, but must first await approval by national parliaments granting new powers to Europe's temporary bailout fund.
The bond exchange, which aims to cut Greece's debt burden and lengthen the maturity profile of the country's public-sector debt, is being backed by the newly-empowered European Financial Stability Facility, or EFSF.
National legislatures in the 17 countries that now use the euro are in the process of drafting legislation to implement the changes to the EFSF. But so far none have ratified the changes and apparent delays in the process have unsettled European financial markets in recent weeks.
"The bond swap deal will go live after the enhanced EFSF has been voted on by parliaments," a Greek government official said. "After that approval, and to the extent that anyone can predict these things nowadays, we expect the live offer will come some time in October."
In July, European Union leaders agreed to a new €109 billion ($152.57 billion) aid program for Greece to cover its financing needs for the next several years. Central to the Greek plan is a distressed-debt exchange whereby the country's private-sector creditors agree to accept new bonds worth less than their original holdings.
The exchange would offer creditors four choices to swap or roll over their existing Greek government bonds maturing over the next few years, with new debt up to 30 years in duration. That new debt will be backed with collateral from the EFSF, which would issue new triple-A rated bonds to secure the principle on the new Greek bonds.
"When the new powers of the EFSF have been voted on, the fund will then be able to provide collateral for the scheme," the official said. "After that, we can proceed with a formal offer."
The Institute for International Finance, a trade body of the world's leading banks and author of the proposal, says the plan is expected to slice €13.5 billion off Greece's total stock of €350 billion in public debt.
Late last month, Greece's government sent a letter to Greek banks setting a Sept. 9 deadline for them to detail their participation in the bond-swap program. But according to two Greek government officials, the September 9 deadline doesn't represent a final date for the deal—as was widely understood in the markets—and no statement is expected to be issued Friday.
"The swap program is not over on Friday," said a second Greek government official. "There are still information sessions scheduled for the coming weeks in Asia and the Americas."
Despite more than a month of talks with lenders on the deal, so far, participation rates have been less-than-hoped for. According to a third Greek government official, financial institutions holding about 75% of Greek government bonds have declared their participation—less than the 90% target set out by the government
 

discipline

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E su quali basi e motivazioni le delisteresti a meno di una procedura di default?

Calma, io non delisterei proprio niente, più che altro tu come fai a escluderlo ora a priori? Dico solo che seppure ciò dovesse avvenire, sarebbe comunque possibile comprare e venderle OTC. Il default non è essenziale: le LT2 di Boi che erano sul TLX vennero delistate preventivamente e senza che la cosa fosse legata ad alcun evento, se non la caduta (assai inferiore ai GGB) delle quotazioni
 
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StockExchange

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Scadenza 9 set cancellata...Mah
A proposed bond exchange program between Greece and its private-sector creditors is expected to take place sometime in October, but must first await approval by national parliaments granting new powers to Europe's temporary bailout fund.
The bond exchange, which aims to cut Greece's debt burden and lengthen the maturity profile of the country's public-sector debt, is being backed by the newly-empowered European Financial Stability Facility, or EFSF.
National legislatures in the 17 countries that now use the euro are in the process of drafting legislation to implement the changes to the EFSF. But so far none have ratified the changes and apparent delays in the process have unsettled European financial markets in recent weeks.
"The bond swap deal will go live after the enhanced EFSF has been voted on by parliaments," a Greek government official said. "After that approval, and to the extent that anyone can predict these things nowadays, we expect the live offer will come some time in October."
In July, European Union leaders agreed to a new €109 billion ($152.57 billion) aid program for Greece to cover its financing needs for the next several years. Central to the Greek plan is a distressed-debt exchange whereby the country's private-sector creditors agree to accept new bonds worth less than their original holdings.
The exchange would offer creditors four choices to swap or roll over their existing Greek government bonds maturing over the next few years, with new debt up to 30 years in duration. That new debt will be backed with collateral from the EFSF, which would issue new triple-A rated bonds to secure the principle on the new Greek bonds.
"When the new powers of the EFSF have been voted on, the fund will then be able to provide collateral for the scheme," the official said. "After that, we can proceed with a formal offer."
The Institute for International Finance, a trade body of the world's leading banks and author of the proposal, says the plan is expected to slice €13.5 billion off Greece's total stock of €350 billion in public debt.
Late last month, Greece's government sent a letter to Greek banks setting a Sept. 9 deadline for them to detail their participation in the bond-swap program. But according to two Greek government officials, the September 9 deadline doesn't represent a final date for the deal—as was widely understood in the markets—and no statement is expected to be issued Friday.
"The swap program is not over on Friday," said a second Greek government official. "There are still information sessions scheduled for the coming weeks in Asia and the Americas."
Despite more than a month of talks with lenders on the deal, so far, participation rates have been less-than-hoped for. According to a third Greek government official, financial institutions holding about 75% of Greek government bonds have declared their participation—less than the 90% target set out by the government

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Non è il momento più opportuno per parlare di "sensazioni" visto che davanti i book ci siamo noi 43 collegati e nessun altro :D
A maggior ragione quando destituite di ogni fondamento procedurale.
In genere negli swap o nelle OPS o nei buy back non c'è alcuna sospensione nelle contrattazioni e infatti nel caso delle OPS, OPA e buyback i prezzi schizzano subito al livello di equilibrio dato dai prezzi offerti.

Alimento le tue già troppe paure :D
 
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