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Analysis: Greek state firms could be poison for investors






By Harry Papachristou
ATHENS | Wed Jun 1, 2011 4:21am EDT



ATHENS (Reuters) - Greece has to cut through a thicket of outdated regulations and labor laws if its ambitious privatization drive is to raise anything near the sums needed to avoid default and jump-start its ailing economy.
Having failed to sell a single cent's worth of assets since getting a 110-billion euro EU/IMF bailout last year, Greece has pledged to speed up privatizations to convince its increasingly exasperated lenders it is still serious about the rescue plan.
But unless it makes some tough choices in the run-up to the sales, such as higher power prices or allowing redundant staff to be fired at former state firms, Greece may fail to attract investor interest to raise the intended 50 billion euros.
"If things don't change, state companies will be impossible to sell or they will go at just 10 percent of their value," said Stefanos Manos, a former finance minister and author of a hugely successful privatization of mobile telephony in the 1990s.
The European Union and IMF are pressing Greece to conduct large-scale privatizations to raise funds for reducing its huge debt.
They want Athens to follow the example of Macedonian King Alexander the Great, who in ancient times solved the apparently intractable problem of the Gordian knot by slicing through it with one stroke of his sword.
Greece may face a far more laborious task.


UNPALATABLE CHOICES


Workers at several companies slated for privatization are virtually unsackable, owing to protective labor rules dating from monopoly days -- off-putting for investors who might need to wield the axe to squeeze out a profit.
Germany's Deutsche Telekom, which already owns 30 percent of former telecoms monopoly OTE, may use the labor issue as a lever to agree to buy the state's remaining 16 percent stake. Deutsche Telekom has already written down 900 million euros of its 3.8 billion euro OTE investment.
Some analysts say it is not realistic to think that Greece will be able to sell stakes in state-controlled lenders Postal Savings Bank and ATEbank, which are up to their necks in toxic Greek government bonds.
"No foreigner will come in and touch that unless the portfolio is written down by at least 50 percent," said Tania Gold, a banking analyst at UniCredit. "I don't see how a foreign bank would justify that to their shareholders."
Greece also faces unpalatable choices if it is serious about finding a strategic partner for its biggest power producer PPC, in which it wants to sell a 17 percent stake.
Before investors dare dip a toe into Greece's energy market, the government will have to stop regulating household electricity prices, which are among the lowest in Europe.
Greece has also yet to explain how it will comply with an EU order to scrap PPC's monopoly over production of coal, the country's cheapest energy source. Also unclear is how PPC, one of Europe's heaviest polluters, will cope with about 1 billion euros a year in extra carbon costs from 2013.
"Visibility for investors is currently zero," said Paris Mantzavras, an Athens-based energy analyst at HSBC.
Regulatory obstacles might also complicate the sale of the most precious jewel in Greece's privatization crown, sports betting monopoly OPAP with a market value of 4 billion euros.
Competitors may cry foul over government plans to extend OPAP's license before selling its remaining 34 percent stake in the company, a move that might lead to court challenges which would unnerve investors.


WITH A License TO SELL


Even resolving regulatory problems is no guarantee that privatizations will go ahead smoothly. Sales attempts may still flounder over low stock market valuations, fierce labor union resistance and lack of political support.
Selling company stakes at depressed market prices may be too much for politicians to stomach.
Anybody in charge of asset sales, such as the independent privatization agency proposed by the Greece's lenders, will need protection from lawsuits likely to be filed by disgruntled labor unionists or trigger-happy public prosecutors.
"Without immunity, nobody is going to put their signatures on any sales agreement," Manos said.
All the bourse-listed company stakes Greece owns are worth about 7.6 billion euros in total -- less than half their value in October 2009, when the Socialist government took office.
PPC shares currently trade at only about 40 percent of the company's book value. "A sale at such prices could raise legal issues," a PPC insider told Reuters.
Ruling party politicians are already getting cold feet. Socialist deputy Alexandros Athanasiadis said he will vote in parliament against any PPC stake, adding that other colleagues may follow his example.
"I don't feel alone in this," said Athanasiadis, a lawmaker for the Kozani region, where PPC is the biggest employer.
Added to uncertainty about revenue from property sales, for which there are no clear legal titles, observers doubt that Greece will hit the 50-billion euro target.
"The scale of the challenge before the Greek authorities, including a new commitment to privatize 50 billion euros in state assets by 2015, and their ability to deliver in the face of rising implementation and political risk is increasingly in doubt," said Paul Rawkins, senior director at ratings agency Fitch.
 
I TITOLI DEI GIORNALI:

The Wednesday edition of Athens' dailies at a glance The government's negotiations with the Troika (EC, ECB, IMF) and the changes in labour relations, the tax measures and privatisations as well as a new support package, mostly dominated the headlines in Wednesday's newspapers.


ADESMEFTOS TYPOS: "EU discusses 65 billion euros loan to Greece!"
AVGHI: "Firesale for 30 pieces of silver".
AVRIANI: "Russian 'swoop' on Piraeus Bank".
ELEFTHEROS TYPOS: "Government cuts 'Indignants Generation' salaries".
ELEFTHEROTYPIA: "The package closes with harsh taxes".
ESTIA: "The government is inert".
ETHNOS: "Siege and extremities at entrance to parliament".
IMERISSIA: "First signs of hope - New loan after the agreement with the troika".
KATHIMERINI: "Towards overall agreement with Troika".
NAFTEMPORIKI: "German 'yes' to support changes the markets' climate".
RIZOSPASTIS: "Primary Healthcare sacrificed on the altar of profit".
TA NEA: "Rescue waltz".
VRADYNI: "They (Troika and government) cut 20 percent of the salaries and abolished the benefits".


(ana.gr)
 
Ciao Gaudente

Io invece perseguirei voi per incapacita' di intendere e di volere visto che perseverate nel comprare questa roba.... avete il mondo a disposizione e state sempre a sguazzare in questa cloaca :down:

Ciao Gaudente, e' da parecchio che seguo i tuoi interventi, sempre molto sagaci e sferzanti, ma anche molto competenti.
Io in Grecia ho comprato poco ed ho venduto quasi tutto lasciando qualche Eurino sul parterre, ed Amen ;) ..

Potresti dare qualche esempio di questo mondo di cui parli accesibile ai comuni mortali che non dispongono di conti in banche svizzere e non hanno centinaia di migliaia di Euroni da investire!!!

Thank you very much!
:ciao:
 
Euro zone cbanks softening on Greek debt extension-FTD






FRANKFURT, June 1 | Wed Jun 1, 2011 5:03am EDT

FRANKFURT, June 1 (Reuters) - Euro zone central banks are softening their opposition to extending Greece's debt maturities if investors agree to it voluntarily, the Financial Times Deutschland (FTD) reported on Wednesday citing unnamed sources.
The newspaper said the central banks were no longer ruling out such a move, but added that it was not yet clear whether there was unanimity on the issue.
The ECB, under whose wing the euro zone's 17 national central banks sit, has said it is strongly opposed to a Greek restructuring, including the lengthening of bond maturities.
On Tuesday, outgoing Executive Board member Gertrude Tumpel-Gugerell said in an interview with Reuters that the bank would not soften its stance on the issue.
 
Seven Questions And Answers On The Greek Debt



In the shadow of the massive daily protests in Sintagma Square and the uncontrollable consequences of stronger pressures in the banking system, the leaders in Brussels, Berlin and Paris begin to redeploy, raising possibilities of “solutions”.

EWG –Eurogroup’s committee- meets on Wednesday to consider alternative proposals for a medium-term addressing of the debt crisis in Greece, particularly creating a “fire safety zone” around the country.

The questions about how and when multiply every day. Proposals focus on several directions:

* What has changed since Sunday, and why?

The dramatic pressures and threats exerted during the last ten days by the EU and the IMF in concert with the Greek government began to detensify when it was found that the Greek depositors reacted risky withdrawing their deposits, while the protestors drowned squares. Diplomatic sources in Brussels admitted that the plan aimed to strengthen the pressures about a possible discontinuation of funding in order to achieve a solution similar to “Vienna initiative”. The second part had some success but the first had failed, causing social unrest and concern in the banking system. For that reason, European Commissioner Olli Rehn urged to confirm the search for solutions for continuing of lending.

* Which is the thorn in the solution?

All proposals miss the guarantor to secure the holding of Greek bonds by either banks or a new loan (about €30-35b). According to sources, latest conditions may convince Germany agree on EFSF assuming that role. However, no decision has been made yet.

* Why the ECB rejects the restructuring of the Greek debt?

The administration of the European Central Bank has rejected any form of restructuring of the Greek debt from the very beginning. These scenarios would cause a domino effect in the Eurozone with a risk to affect Spain, Belgium and even Italy. At the same time, ECB reject this possibility, because it maintains and expands the current situation, trapped in the role of guarantor of the troubled economies with very heavy impact on its balance sheet in the case of the worst scenario.

* What is the ECB proposing?

ECB insists on implementing the Memorandum of Understanding and the extension of measures, provided that the Eurogroup would be responsible for any additional measures needed to cover any deviations until the launch of ESM in 2013. Furthermore, it demands the acquisition of troubled-countries bonds by the ESFS, in order to dispense from the liability of debt.

* What impact has the arrest of Dominique Strauss-Kahn on Greece?

The “withdrawal” of Strauss-Kahn from the political scene had significant implications which would have been seen if there had been no “Sofitel case”. On the day of his arrest, he was supposed to meet German Chancellor Angela Merkel to agree on a political and financial “formula”, which he would promote to European leaders as IMF’s head, in order to overcome the obstacles, as the internal political crisis in Germany and France have blocked the negotiations ahead of the EU Summit in June. The appointment of Christine Lagarde in his position reflects an attempt to resume developments, however it is considered doubtful whether the Gordian knot of the debt crisis could be address in time.

Strauss-Kahn’s temporary replacement John Lipsky insisted that if the EU does not guarantee the creditworthiness of the Greek debt at least for a year, the IMF would interrupt the release of aid tranches. In this case, the only way would be EFSF assuming the role of guarantor or replacing the IMF in the loan. However, this would certainly negate the fundamental agreement that was made a year ago.

* Why had been the German government promoting the Greek debt restructuring, against ECB, and now redeploys?

The political crisis in Germany has driven the German coalition government to the wall, as Angela Merkel loses regional governments in peripheral elections. The government understands that under the current composition of the House, lawmakers refuse to vote for a new loan to Greece and or the strengthening of EFSF in order to assume that loan until 2013. Thus, a solution of a “soft” restructuring has been promoted, with the voluntary extension of Greek bonds maturing in 2012-2013 (which includes the assumption of cost by bondholders) and collateral through privatizations. An extreme version of this scenario includes a haircut from the nominal value of these bonds.

* How possible is a non-disbursement of the fifth instalment of the Greek loan?

The release of the next tranche is a “political issue”, according to sources in Brussels. European Commission would send the accounting data and the Eurogroup would decide under which conditions it would approve the release of the instalment, EU officials note. Sources reveal that the instalment would be delayed until July. The likelihood of non- disbursement of the fifth instalment is minimum as it would cause a default, triggering a domino effect in the entire Eurozone.

However, ECB rules out this possibility until mid 2013, but the release is not considered “automatic”. It would be accompanied by effective acceleration of privatizations in June and further cost cutting.

(capital.gr)
 
Ciao Gaudente, e' da parecchio che seguo i tuoi interventi, sempre molto sagaci e sferzanti, ma anche molto competenti.
Io in Grecia ho comprato poco ed ho venduto quasi tutto lasciando qualche Eurino sul parterre, ed Amen ;) ..

Potresti dare qualche esempio di questo mondo di cui parli accesibile ai comuni mortali che non dispongono di conti in banche svizzere e non hanno centinaia di migliaia di Euroni da investire!!!

Thank you very much!
:ciao:

Guadente dimentica sempre che non tutti riescono a sguazzare fra le più disparate valute locali degli emergenti e guadagnare qualcosa. Il più di noi probabilmente rimarebbe incastrato anche lì.
 
Guadente dimentica sempre che non tutti riescono a sguazzare fra le più disparate valute locali degli emergenti e guadagnare qualcosa. Il più di noi probabilmente rimarebbe incastrato anche lì.

scusate l'OT.

Gaudente non ha bisogno che io risponda per lui, ma in effetti il "mondo" degli investimenti oggi è pressochè smisurato.

Io fatico a vedere in queste scelte di investimento (bond che quotano al 50% del valore nominale) la "tranquillità dell'obbligazione" che ha un floor sicuro, e quindi non capisco perchè non ci si possa rivolgere ad esempio all'azionario (o ETF) per idee di investimento che possono portare a rendimenti (in entrambe le direzioni...) a due o tre cifre.

Ovvio che parlo da un pulpito sbagliato (prevalentemente azionario USA, misto di storiacce di ristrutturazione ma anche settori in forte trend di crescita, rimasta oltre il 20% anche nel periodo della crisi più nera [data center, ma oggi fa chic chiamarlo cloud computing]), ma con un conto ad esempio con Directa vi assicuro che vi listano tutto quello che è tradabile negli USA... e ce n'è...

Io ogni tanto sfotto il mio povero amico sciarc, ma quando parlo di Apple a $80 indico che abbiamo trascorso un periodo (spero irripetibile...) in cui bastava scegliere quasi a caso, usando come criterio il partire dalla A cercando aziende a forte crescita e dalle idee innovative... e chi oggi non inciampa in un iphone/ipad/ipod?

Io ho fatto i miei errori più grandi fossilizzandomi su alcune storie, e perdendo trend che avevo sotto gli occhi (ad esempio girando gli usa il blackberry, ma anche la bolla immobiliare USA, alcune realtà Internet, etc. etc.) . Continuo a farli, ma che si debba/possa ogni tanto alzare lo sguardo oltre certi investimenti è un consiglio saggio, anche se lanciato come una provocazione... oggi si ha accesso quasi a tutto...

fine OT.
 
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