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Juncker says Greece must meet commitments, no plan B






BRUSSELS, June 23 | Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:40pm EDT

BRUSSELS, June 23 (Reuters) - Greece must meet its commitments under an EU/IMF bailout programme as there is no alternative plan for its financial difficulties, Luxembourg's Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker said on Thursday.
"All conditions must be met. When you want all conditions to be met, you can't let anyone believe there is a Plan B. And there isn't a Plan B," said Juncker, who is also chairman of the Eurogroup of euro zone finance ministers.
"If Greece does what it has to do, we will do what we have to do. This is not a threat. It's just a confirmation that we're continuing our efforts," he told reporters ahead of a summit of European Union leaders.
 
Cameron worried about spillover from Greek crisis



In Brussels for EU summit, British PM expected to confirm reluctance to contribute to Greece bailout


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British Prime Minister David Cameron is expected to voice his concern about the Greek debt crisis having a spillover effect during a European Union summit meeting taking place in Brussels on Thursday and Friday.
According to The Daily Telegraph, Cameron will add his voice to non-euro G7 members who are increasingly concerned that EU agitation over how to deliver a second Greek bailout will affect a global economy already weakened by recession.
“Britain has joined non-EU G7 members in warning that the eurozone needs to stop fueling uncertainty by sending different, contradictory messages,» the paper quoted a senior source as saying.
The euro area needs to decide on a clear plan, agree it and stick to it. There has been too much public speculation of Germany versus France. The eurozone has responsibilities to the wider world economy, especially nearby, close neighbors like Britain.”
The comments came after Germany and France disagreed over whether the private sector should be involved in sharing the Greek debt burden during an emergency meeting on Sunday.
Speaking at The Times CEO Summit on Tuesday, Cameron pledged that he would fight “very hard” in Brussels to ensure that no British taxpayer money goes into a new bailout plan for Greece.
Meanwhile, the German government indicated on Thursday that Britain would need to contribute to the new EU bailout, according to The Guardian.
The paper noted that conflicting messages from Berlin and London were paving the way for a possible clash between the two countries in Brussels.
While the majority of funds for Greece’s bailout stem from a fund guaranteed by 16 eurozone member states, a separate fund, the European Financial Stability Mechanism (EFSM), which includes Britain, will be required in case of additional rescue efforts, according to top German government officials, The Guardian reported.
Speaking in the House of Commons, the British prime minister noted that the Greek crisis was a eurozone issue. “We don't believe the European Financial Stability Mechanism should be used for Greece. We have made it clear that's not appropriate, and I don't think it will happen,” Cameron said.






ekathimerini.com , Thursday June 23, 2011 (17:15)
 
INTERVIEW: Only Solution To Greek Debt Is Restructuring-Eichengreen



By Frances Robinson
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
BRUSSELS (Dow Jones)--Restructuring of Greece's government debt is inevitable and Europe should start work on a Brady-style plan now to avoid this happening in a disorderly fashion and causing contagion effects, Barry Eichengreen, Professor of Economics and Political Science at the University of California, Berkeley, said Thursday.
"Europe should be prepared for the credit event that's coming, it's certain to occur," Eichengreen told Dow Jones Newswires in an interview. "There are two strategies for resolving the Greek debt crisis--one is restructuring, and the other is restructuring."
A year after the European Union put together a bailout package for Greece, heads of state and government are here to discuss a second rescue for the debt-stricken Mediterranean country. This time, euro-zone politicians want holders of Greek government debt to contribute to the package, by using the money they receive from maturing bonds to buy new bonds on roughly the same terms.
Greece's parliament signed off late Tuesday on a new round of budget cuts as rioters took to the streets to protest extreme austerity measures.
Eichengreen said his best guess for a restructuring is in September when Europeans return from the summer break, giving the currency union six weeks to come up with a plan similar to the Brady bonds used to resolve the crisis in Latin American countries in the 1980s--an operation involving current European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet.
Eichengreen called for Trichet to "dust off his notes". He also ruled out a "Vienna-style restructuring" which some EU finance ministers have mooted.
"Restructuring... can either be done with a plan, like the Brady plan... or in a chaotic, uncontrolled fashion," Eichengreen said. "The Vienna model is to try to get the banks to maintain their exposures... but Greece doesn't need more debt, it can't manage the debt it currently has."
"What Greece needs is less debt -- haircuts on the existing bonds."
Banks in France and Germany are sitting on the biggest piles of Greek government debt, with $22.7 billion in German banks and $15 billion in French banks at the end of last year, according to the Bank for International Settlements.
Eichengreen, speaking after a private event hosted by Think Tank Bruegel attended by EU policymakers, said that restructuring would not lead to Greece leaving the euro, or the demise of the currency union.
"I still think it very, very unlikely, for example, that Greece would reintroduce the drachma as part of its debt restructuring and crisis resolution efforts," he said. "Europe has so much invested in the euro economically and politically that it's not going anywhere."
Turning to the role of the ECB, Eichengreen said it needed to change tack in order to allay false concerns about the crisis deepening in other euro-zone countries.
"What the ECB should be doing is ringfencing Ireland and Spain, it should be saying, we won't let the Irish and Spanish bond markets collapse, we won't let their sovereign spreads rise, we'll buy their bonds," he said. "When the crisis passes we'll sell what we've bought and the European taxpayer will have made money."
Eichengreen added Greece's problems are different to Spain and Ireland, which the ECB has so far failed to acknowledge, and that "the Greek banking system will need more capital from the Greek budget or through transfers from other European countries."
"The fact of the matter is their strategy has not worked," he said. "Spain and Ireland are solvent, they'll be able to pay back the debt they've been accumulated... that is clearly not true of Greece, that's why they need different treatment."
He said that once the "crushing debt burden" has been reduced via restructuring, it would be easier for the Greek government to push through privatization and other reforms, and combined with measures such as a mini-Marshall plan, or targeted use of EU structural funds (the subsidies the bloc gives to its poorest regions) it would be possible for the country to return to growth--whereas "there's no plausible scenario under the current strategy where Greece will start growing again soon."
"Europe needs to draw a line under its crisis, having spent a year just making it worse."
 
Accordo con gli obiettivi e le modalità di risanamento delle finanze pubbliche ma in disaccordo con la politica seguita sinora.
La posizione è stata ribadita dal presidente di ND Antonis Samaras dopo il vertice del Partito popolare europeo, nonostante le pressioni per ottenere un cambiamento di parere sul programma a "medio termine".
"Ho ribadito che siamo d'accordo con gli obiettivi e le modalità di risanamento delle finanze pubbliche: per l'eliminazione del deficit, la riduzione del debito, ridurre gli sprechi del governo e i cambiamenti strutturali ... ma non sono d'accordo con le politiche che hanno già portato alla recessione profonda e prolungata, che hanno paralizzato l'economia e ...
non posso sostenere gli errori " ha detto Samaras.


(fonte Naftemporiki)
 
Prima della "cena di lavoro" all'Eurogruppo, Papandreou ha ribadito che la Grecia è strettamente impegnata in cambiamenti radicali al fine di rendere competitiva l'economia ellenica.
Ha parlato di una battaglia del popolo greco per il loro paese e di una lotta per la moneta comune europea.
In una breve conversazione pubblica ha osservato che se c'è un forte impegno da parte dell'UE, ci sarà un forte impegno da parte del parlamento greco.


(fonte Naftemporiki)
 
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Per me è un furbone ... non è che gioca con i CDS?

inciso semi OT

tralasciando le teorie complottistiche, PIMCO ha di solito dei comportamenti coerenti con le ipotesi che formulano.

Ad esempio, ai tempi del "casotto" finanziario negli USA, PIMCO riteneva che lo stato avrebbe salvato tutti gli istituti finanziari. E si mosse per ottenere il massimo profitto. Ad esempio rifiutando il concambio per GMAC, nonostante la loro decisione rischiasse di far deragliare il salvataggio (non si raggiungeva il minimo imposto dal governo).
iMark ricorda sicuramente meglio di me quei passaggi. Lì vinsero alla grande, con Lehman presero una bella legnata nei denti.

Da tempo PIMCO è negativo verso il debito "statale" (un certo debito). Negli USA fece scandalo qualche settimana fa:

Pimco?s Gross Eliminates Government Debt From Total Return Fund - Bloomberg

io qualche giorno fa ho messo un link che giudico interessante, proprio per capirne la logica, come investitori:

PIMCO | Economic Outlook - Game Change for Bond Investors?

Governments practicing financial repression may be transferring wealth from creditors (citizens) to debtors (governments) to the detriment of creditors, fixed income investors and savers.

il discorso è complesso, magari ci vorrebbe Antonio e la sua capacità di farmi capire anche le cose difficili... :cool:
 
GRECIA: PAPANDREOU, FORTE IMPEGNO IN CAMBIAMENTI RADICALI




20:08 23 GIU 2011

(AGI) Bruxelles - La Grecia e' fortemente impegnata ad attuare dei cambiamenti radicali per rendere la propria economia solvibile. Lo ha dichiarato il premier ellenico, George Papandreou. "Questa e' una battaglia per il nostro paese insieme al popolo greco - ha dichiarato Papandreou, a Bruxelles per un vertice europeo che avra' sul tavolo la crisi del debito di Atene - Credo che con un forte impegno da parte della Ue ci sara' un forte impegno anche da parte del parlamento greco" .
 
GRECIA: MERKEL, NECESSARIA UNITA' NEL PAESE

In una situazione come quella greca e' necessario che 'ci sia unita' all'interno di un paese'. E' l'auspicio della Cancelliera tedesca Angela Merkel, che al suo arrivo al vertice europeo dei 27 capi di Stato e di governo dopo aver partecipato all'incontro fra i leader del Ppe, ha aggiunto 'e' stato cosi' in Irlanda e Portogallo e quindi abbiamo insistito perche sia cosi' anche in Grecia'



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inciso semi OT

tralasciando le teorie complottistiche, PIMCO ha di solito dei comportamenti coerenti con le ipotesi che formulano.

Ad esempio, ai tempi del "casotto" finanziario negli USA, PIMCO riteneva che lo stato avrebbe salvato tutti gli istituti finanziari. E si mosse per ottenere il massimo profitto. Ad esempio rifiutando il concambio per GMAC, nonostante la loro decisione rischiasse di far deragliare il salvataggio (non si raggiungeva il minimo imposto dal governo).
iMark ricorda sicuramente meglio di me quei passaggi. Lì vinsero alla grande, con Lehman presero una bella legnata nei denti.

Da tempo PIMCO è negativo verso il debito "statale" (un certo debito). Negli USA fece scandalo qualche settimana fa:

Pimco?s Gross Eliminates Government Debt From Total Return Fund - Bloomberg

io qualche giorno fa ho messo un link che giudico interessante, proprio per capirne la logica, come investitori:

PIMCO | Economic Outlook - Game Change for Bond Investors?

Governments practicing financial repression may be transferring wealth from creditors (citizens) to debtors (governments) to the detriment of creditors, fixed income investors and savers.

il discorso è complesso, magari ci vorrebbe Antonio e la sua capacità di farmi capire anche le cose difficili... :cool:

Paolo, lasciami il beneficio del dubbio.
 
Paolo, lasciami il beneficio del dubbio.

certo, però questi hanno venduto il debito USA, vuoi che siano convinti che quello greco è meglio?

magari basta ricordare questo fatto per dare alle loro parole un "frame" di riferimento.

come sempre grazie per gli aggiornamenti, dopo il mio pupillo sei quello che leggo più volentieri... :lol:
 
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