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Mi riferivo al fatto che si è sempre detto che era necessario salvare la grecia per evitare il contagio.
Il problema è che il contagio si sta diffondendo pur con la grecia ancora viva, grazie alla rapidità e decisione con cui la UE si è mossa nell'ultimo anno e mezzo :wall:
Per cui, anche in caso di piano di salvataggio approvato, rischia di essere semplicemente troppo tardi... :rolleyes:

E' da un anno che si mettono pezze, da più di sei mesi il contagio su Irlanda e Portogallo è irreversibile.
Si tratta di mettere ora una diga di contenimento per non andare oltre.
Come sempre, se ne discute ...
All'IIF comunque le proposte sono di un buon livello operativo, per la Grecia.
Ieri la Commissione UE ha rilanciato una nuova versione degli eurobond: staremo a vedere.
 
Prime battute d'apertura negative alla Borsa di Atene: indice ASE a 1259 punti - 0,52%.
Gli spread oscillano intorno ai massimi degli ultimi giorni a 1410 pb.
 
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Interessante chi c' è.....

Tra questi chi spara m3rda sui giornali.

Parliamo di stress test, chi probabilmente non supererà la prova.
 
The Greek debt crisis and China

By John Ross (chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2011-07-07




It is another sign of the growing international impact of China that its economic strength has become part of the discussion on how to resolve Greece's debt crisis. It was also for this reason that Wen Jiabao's recent European visit received even more extensive than usual coverage in the continent's media.

The visit, in overall impact and in two of its three destinations, appears to have been mostly successful. In Germany, contracts worth $15 billion were signed. In Hungary, China's announcement that it would include that country in its international bond purchases was described by its government as "a decision of historic significance."

In Britain, there was a sour note when David Cameron wasted time trying to lecture China on human rights - which came rather ridiculously from the government of a country that participated in invading Iraq, resulting in the deaths of several hundred thousand people. But even in the UK, $2 billion in trade agreements were signed - although David Cameron did jeopardize British citizens' jobs and incomes because, as the Financial Times reported: "a senior Chinese official told the... FT that the UK 'is losing its standing in Europe as far as China is concerned and that Britain is now viewed less favorably in Beijing than Germany, France, Italy and Spain.'"

There are clearly two aspects to the aftermath of the visit. The first is overall economic relations between China and Europe. The second is the specific problems of China's exposure to the Greek debt crisis.

The overall success of the trip, and of economic relations between China and Europe, were well summed up in an editorial on July 2 in The Economist - Europe's most influential business magazine: "Investment bankers there [in Europe] are now sure to dial Chinese clients if they hear that a firm is a possible bid target. China's banks are rapidly increasing their presence in Europe... Chinese direct investment abroad has increased faster in Europe than in any other region.

"The Europeans get more than just money. A Chinese partner is a good way for a European brand to gain access to the world's soon-to-be-biggest economy. Ask France's Club Med, which now has a big Chinese shareholder and recently opened its first holiday resort in the country. Or CIFA, an Italian construction equipment maker whose products are now marketed as a premium brand by its Chinese owner. Or Sweden's Volvo, which was bought by Geely, a Chinese carmaker, in 2010 and now calls China its second home market." The magazine concluded its editorial: "In welcoming China, Europe is swimming with the tide of history. America is struggling against it."

The Greek debt crisis is, however, a specific issue that needs to be carefully analyzed. Greece's debt next year is projected to reach 159 percent of GDP, its interest rates are 15 percent above German equivalents, and its balance of payments deficit is 5.5 percent of GDP. This combination is totally unsustainable. A starting point has to be that the present bailout packages are not going to work and in the end Greece will have to partially default on its debt - to the disadvantage of its creditors.

The overwhelming majority of international analysts on the issue are also aware of the inevitable default. They are merely divided between those who believe default should occur now or whether it would be better to postpone it. So far European governments are, with little credibility in markets or among serious analysts, proclaiming that partial default is "unthinkable" - which means in practice they are going down the road of postponement.

Clarity is therefore necessary on the purpose of the postponement and what is taking place during it. The core process is to give time for European and other banks to exit from holdings of Greek debt and transfer it to governments - which in the real world means taxpayers. The latter will therefore pick up the eventual bill when the partial default comes. This is why there is strong public opposition to the European Union’s bailout plans not only in austerity-hit Greece but in creditor countries such as Germany.

The eventual division of losses between European banks and European taxpayers is evidently not China's affair. But China is being asked to pick up the bill for its taxpayers when the eventual default comes. The mechanism of this is that an eventual Greek default will have consequences not only in that country but across Europe. China's government is being asked to buy, and indeed is buying, bonds in some European countries on terms that are therefore likely to be worse after a Greek default.

This is not at all necessarily the wrong thing to do. It may be that the overall benefits of participating in a deal to postpone Greece's default, which presumably will also make it more orderly, outweigh any direct financial losses to China that will be incurred by a partial default. That is a matter for China's government to assess.

But it is necessary to enter such a process with eyes open and not believe partial default will be avoided. China's economic policy makers have on numerous occasions shown they are experienced enough to calculate whether the overall benefits of participation in a scheme to postpone Greece's default outweighs the financial costs. But that calculation needs to be made on the assumption of an eventual, at least partial, Greek default.

John Ross is Visiting Professor at Antai College of Economics and Management, Shanghai Jiao Tong University. From 2000 to 2008, he was then London mayor Ken Livingstone's Policy Director of Economic and Business Policy. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the China Daily website.


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Greece Speeds Up Privatizations



With the blessing of Germany and ahead of the Eurogroup meeting on Monday, the Greek government attempts to speed up privatizations.

The first objective is to finalize the members of the board of the fund for the development of state property, which Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos will present to his counterparts on Monday. Sources note that the scheme is hard to complete due to the unwillingness of several people who were asked to participate.

The government has to transfer all the public companies and the real estate assets to the fund through the interministerial committee within the month. Therefore, the troika arrives in late July to monitor the procedure and review the progress of the Greek economy.


The objectives set by the Memorandum of Understanding are very strict:

-an amount of €400m should have been raised from the sale of a further stake in Hellenic Telecoms (OTE) until late June

-additional €1.7b should be raised by late September from the sale of Thessaloniki water company, Athens International Airport, betting company OPAP, Piraeus Port Authority, Hellenic Postbank and State Lottery), while the amount reaches €5b with further sales.

The troika has told Greece that it won’t take any further delays. The MoU also defines the quarter target of privatizations as a structural milestone for the release of next loan instalment.

Sources note that the lenders’ pressure and the intense business interest for privatizations was well-revealed on Wednesday at a meeting between Evangelos Venizelos and his German counterpart Wolfgang Schaeuble in Berlin.

It was officially announced that there is need for a new impetus to stimulate growth with the enhancing of the private sector and private investment and the possible involvement of German companies. Moreover, after a meeting with representatives of the association of German industries, the Greek government said that they confirmed their readiness to support Greece
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(capital.gr)
 
Intanto anche questa mattina proseguono le pressioni sugli spread, i nostri BTP hanno ritoccato il max storico a 225 pb mentre i nostri ellenici viaggiano intorno ai 1410 pb.
Operativamente le attese sono per il discorso di Trichet, nel primo pomeriggio.
 
Grecia, incontro Trichet-Venizelos su banche e riforme

giovedì 7 luglio 2011 10:41






ATENE, 7 luglio - (Reuters) - Il ministro delle Finanze greco Evangelos Venizelos si è incontrato oggi con il governatore della Bce Jean-Claude Trichet. Lo ha reso noto la segreteria del ministro.
"Hanno parlato del programma di privatizzazioni e del sistema bancario in vista dell'Eurogruppo" ha detto a Reuters un portavoce del ministero.
Ieri Venizelos aveva avuto dei colloqui con il suo omologo tedesco Wolfgang Schaeuble a Berlino e con i vertici dell'associazione degli industriali tedeschi (BDI).
Il settore industriale tedesco, secondo quanto riferito ieri dalla segreteria di Schaueble, è pronto ad aumentare gli investimenti in Grecia per aiutare il paese a superare la crisi del debito.


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In italiano.
 
Banks will not voluntarily bail-out Greece, finance minister admits



Thursday 07 July 2011

Finance minister Jan Kees de Jager does not think it realistic to expect the banks to voluntarily contribute to the Greek rescue effort and says they should be pressured to do so, the Financieele Dagblad reports on Thursday.
The fact that credit ratings agencies may lower their rating for Greece as a consequence is acceptable risk, the paper quotes the minister as saying.
The minister made his comments during a meeting with his British counterpart George Osborne in London. Britain is not part of the eurozone and on the sidelines of the rescue mission.

The EU is trying to raise €85bn to bail out Greece, a considerable part of which should come from the private sector. But the European central bank has already warned that a compulsory contribution will lead to a reduced credit rating for Greece, and unsettle the financial markets.
The Netherlands and Germany are among the biggest supporters of private sector involvement in the second support round.


Little sympathy

According to the Guardian, De Jager also 'showed little sympathy for the plight of Greece'.
'Contagion risks are not best handled by bailout funds, or by being soft on each other, but by taking strong measures,' the paper quoted him as saying. 'The size of the government needs to decrease in these countries.'
He denied that would mean abandoning the cherished European social model. 'These economies could be European in the traditional sense, but without the rigid labour markets and rigid monopolistic structures that go with it, especially in the southern European countries. They have to be torn down.'
De Jager also restated his view that the European commission's demand for an increase in its budget was unacceptable. The Dutch parliament has called for the EU budget to be frozen in cash terms.


(dutchnews.nl)
 
Oggi, intorno alle 16, si riunirà ad Atene la Commissione Governativa per l'attuazione del Piano di Medio Termine, sotto la presidenza di Papandreou.
Sarà presente Evangelios Venizelos che farà una relazione sugli incontri tenuti a Berlino con Schaeuble e successivamente con Trichet.
 
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