Obbligazioni valute high yield ISLANDA e Obbligazioni in ISK

Ad occhio comunque la prima deadline sembrerebbe essere intorno a marzo 2011 salvo complicazioni perché, in realtà, la scadenza prevista sarebbe ad agosto. Vi trascrivo un comunicato della banca centrale che potete comunque trovare in .pdf a questo indirizzo:

http://sedlabanki.is/lisalib/getfile.aspx?itemid=8210

Molte grazie a snoram sull'altro forum per l'indicazione :)
(Bold is mine)

3 November 2010
Statement on capital controls
This statement is given in order to explain the policy framework and
current intentions regarding the removal of capital controls
. The only
new specific information is in Point 8.
1. Comprehensive capital controls were introduced in November 2008
as a part of the Government economic programme, which is supported
by the IMF, in order to prevent serious difficulties as regards Iceland’s
balance of payments, and with the aim of stabilising the exchange rate
without overreliance on the interest rate tool. The controls are a
deviation from Iceland’s obligations under the EEA Agreement to
uphold free capital movements. Under the EEA Agreement, such
controls are permitted only as a short-term emergency measure. The
measures have been notified to EEA institutions, as is provided for in
the Agreement, without any objections. However, it would be a breach
of the EEA Agreement if best efforts are not made to lift the capital
controls once the conditions that created the emergency have been
overcome.
2. It has therefore been one of the aims of the Government programme
to create the conditions for lifting the capital controls. In addition,
capital controls have economic and social costs that tend to accumulate
over time.
3. In August 2009, the Central Bank published a strategy for lifting the
capital controls. The strategy was developed in consultation with the
Ministry of Business Affairs and the IMF and was approved by the
Government. As is stipulated in the original strategy, the first step of
lifting controls on capital inflows and all subsequent associated
outflows was taken on 1 November 2009. It is important to bear in mind
that, although the strategy provides a broad blueprint for lifting controls
on capital outflows, it does not specify any dates. Instead, it was stated
that sequential steps in lifting the controls would depend on conditions.
The pace of lifting the controls would thus depend on whether specific
conditions were fulfilled and how well, or badly, preceding steps went.
4. The strategy lists several key conditions for lifting the capital
controls. The most important ones were: 1) macroeconomic
stabilisation, including the implementation of a credible plan for fiscal
sustainability and declining inflation; 2) a sound financial system; 3) an
adequate level of foreign exchange reserves. These conditions have
formed the basis for the Central Bank and MPC statements on capital
controls. Two of these conditions are being met, but the required
financial soundness is not fulfilled, partially due to uncertainty
regarding the capital position of the banking system following two
Supreme Court rulings. In the last Letter of Intent written to the IMF,
the Icelandic authorities committed to recapitalising the banking system
before year-end should it be needed. This is a necessary condition for
financial sector soundness, but it might not be a sufficient condition.
5. The MPC does not develop or take decisions on the strategy for
lifting capital controls, although the Central Bank seeks its views and
advice on the issue. Monetary policy does, however, take the existing
strategy into account and the prospects for its implementation. In doing
so, the MPC has taken note of the conditions mentioned above. The
evolution of MPC statements should be seen in that light.
6. Although the strategy from August 2009 has not been formally
revised, Central Bank officials have stated, and this was echoed in the
August MPC statement, that the strategy may need to be revised in view
of the change in conditions and the experience so far. The revised
strategy will be designed by the Central Bank in consultation with the
Ministry of Economic Affairs and finally endorsed by the Government.
This is in line with the process used to prepare the original strategy. A
revision of the strategy does not imply a departure from the goal of
lifting capital controls in the coming period, but rather it recognises the
need to reconsider the manner in which the controls will be lifted in
light of recent experience and changed conditions.
7. Provided legal or other impediments are not uncovered prior to the
announcement of a revised strategy, some action might be taken in order
to prepare for the comprehensive removal of controls on capital
outflows. This might include measures to allow legally acquired
offshore krónur to be swapped through controlled auctions against legal
holdings of foreign assets by domestic residents, and to allow legally
acquired offshore krónur to be invested in targeted long-term business
ventures or other specific projects in Iceland.
8. Given that the issue of a potential short-fall in the capital position of
the banking system might not be fully addressed until year-end, it is not
realistic that any other steps than those described in Point 7 will be
taken to lift the controls on outflows this year. Furthermore, no such
steps will be taken until a revised strategy has been made public. In
addition, even if such a strategy were ready earlier, no fundamental
changes will be made to current rules before March 2011, except those
that might be needed in order to execute the planned action mentioned
in Point 7. This commitment is supported by the Minister of Economic
Affairs. It should be borne in mind that the enabling legislation for the
capital controls will at present expire at the end of August 2011.
However, a proposal to extend the legislation might become part of the
revised strategy that will be announced before March 2011.

Már Guðmundsson
Governor
 
ciao,
volevo sottoporre un quesito ai piu esperti in materia.
ho un titolo di banca islandese in default :
GLITNIR XS0222838129

tale titolo ha sopra il claim.

le mie necessità sono:
-chiudere quella custodia titoli su cui sono presenti delle minus e questo titolo presso BPVN poiche onerosa e su cui non sono in grado di adoperare le minus.
-il trasferimento del titolo in default con il claim presso UCG
-il traferimento delle minus presso FINECO


il problema iniziale era di non poter spostare il titolo poiche ha il claim e non potendo spostare il titolo non potevo spostare le minus che possono essere traferite SOLO in caso di chiusura del dossier titoli (è vero o mi prendono in giro?).

La soluzione trovata è quella di spostare il titolo in default con il suo claim.
Il costo per traferire il claim è di 500$. è normale tale richiesta?

conoscendo le mie necessità, cosa mi consigliereste di fare?

grazie in anticipo
 
Iceland Is No Ireland as State Free of Bank Debt, Grimsson Says - Bloomberg

il presidente vanta la forza dell'economia Islandese, se bastasse essere ottimisti per risolvere i problemi potrebbero dargli il Nobel per l'economia

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Iceland Is No Ireland as State Free of Bank Debt, Grimsson Says

By Jonas Bergman and Omar R. Valdimarsson - Nov 26, 2010
Iceland’s President Olafur R. Grimsson said his country is better off than Ireland thanks to the government’s decision to allow the banks to fail two years ago and because the krona could be devalued.
“The difference is that in Iceland we allowed the banks to fail,” Grimsson said in an interview with Bloomberg Television’s Mark Barton today. “These were private banks and we didn’t pump money into them in order to keep them going; the state did not shoulder the responsibility of the failed private banks.”
Ireland’s Prime Minister Brian Cowen said this week his government has discussed an 85 billion-euro ($112 billion) bailout with the European Union and International Monetary Fund after the country’s banks threatened to bring the euro member to the brink of bankruptcy. Iceland’s banks, which still owe creditors about $85 billion, were split to create domestic units needed to keep the financial system running, while foreign liabilities remained within the failed lenders.
As a consequence, “Iceland is faring much better than anybody expected,” Grimsson said. The Icelandic state’s liability on foreign depositor claims stemming from Icesave accounts at failed Landsbanki Islands hf should be put to a national referendum, he said.
“How far can we ask ordinary people -- farmers and fishermen and teachers and doctors and nurses -- to shoulder the responsibility of failed private banks,” said Grimsson. “That question, which has been at the core of the Icesave issue, will now be the burning issue in many European countries.”
Accept Losses
Iceland is relying on a $4.6 billion IMF-led loan to rebuild its economy. Grimsson said today the government may not need the entire amount.
Bondholders of European banks should be prepared to accept losses because voters are becoming increasingly unwilling and unable to fund bailouts, FXPro Financial Services Ltd. said in a Nov. 24 note.
“The taxpayer has no realistic prospect of being able to save their banks, such is the magnitude of their bad loans and their extraordinary dependence on central bank support,” wrote Michael Derks, chief strategist in London at foreign-exchange firm FXPro. “Both junior and senior bondholders in these insolvent banks need to suffer huge haircuts,” he said.
Forcing bond holders to “share the burden,” may help the euro region remain intact, Derks wrote.
Junk
Grimsson, who said Iceland’s talks to join the European Union are ongoing, in January this year blocked a $5.2 billion deal to cover British and Dutch depositor claims stemming from Icesave accounts. The move prompted Fitch Ratings to downgrade the island’s debt to “junk” as a normalization of international relations grew more remote. Iceland’s Finance Ministry on Nov. 16 said the country may now be weeks away from a “final resolution” to the Icesave dispute as it secures broad lawmaker backing for a new accord.
Kaupthing Bank hf, Landsbanki and Glitnir Bank hf failed within weeks of each other in October 2008 after they were unable to secure short-term funding. The banking crisis led to an 80 percent slump in the krona against the euro offshore, until the slump was stemmed by the introduction of capital controls at the end of 2008.
Kaupthing’s winding-up committee today said it finished dealing with claims lodged against it. The bank is dealing with a total of 28,167 claims filed by creditors across 119 countries totaling 7.32 trillion kronur ($63 billion), it said in a statement today.
To contact the reporter on this story: Omar Valdimarsson in London at [email protected]
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Tasneem Brogger at [email protected]
 
tranquillo, non ti perdi niente: semplicemente il Sig. Grimmson ha avuto l'impudenza di affermare che l'Islanda e' messa meglio dell'Irlanda perche' ha avuto il coraggio di far fallire le sue banche contrariamente allo stato irlandese che si e' indebitato per tentare di salvarle. Considerando che gli obbligazionisti delle tre banche islandesi fallite non hanno recuperato un centesimo (mentre i depositanti domestici hanno avuto i propri risparmi intatti nelle tre banche ricostituite) e che l'Islanda si e' pure rifiutata di addossarsi il debito di 5,2 miliardi di $ per pagare i depositanti esteri Icesave, direi che ha ben poco di che gloriarsi.
 
intanto grazie x la risposta.
ma ti chiedo nei giorni passati ho sentito al tg che c'era qualcosa di buono sull'islanda , ma non ho capito cosa, ne sai qualcosa ?
grazie ciao
 
il ministero delle finanze olandese ha comunicato oggi che l'Islanda ha deciso di rimborsare i conti Icesave ai governi olandese e inglese che avevano rimborsato i clienti dopo il default della banca, come mai invece il governo Usa non rimborsa i clienti Lehman?
 
noi ex bondisti in isk ed ora detentori di isk dallo scarso valore che deteniamo sui nostri conti infruttiferi in valuta isk in italia
non ci rimborsa nessuno ?
è un pò di tempo che sto facendo pressioni alla mia banca x acquistare il bond kfw 2017 in isk con le mie isk detenute sul c/c, inutilmente xchè a tutt'oggi non ci sono ancora riusciti ad acquistarmelo.
vi chiedo secondo voi cosa è meglio fare :
acquistare il bond o telene le isk sul c/c ?
grazie
 

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