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Marc Faber: Prepare for a Massive Market Meltdown

Published: Tuesday, 13 Nov 2012 | 7:54 AM ET
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The markets are going to go into meltdown soon so expect stocks to lose 20 percent of their value, Marc Faber, author of the Gloom, Boom and Doom report told CNBC on Tuesday.

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Marc Faber, managing director of Marc Faber Ltd. and publisher of the Gloom, Boom and Doom Report

“I don’t think markets are going down because of Greece, I don’t think markets are going down because of the “fiscal cliff” – because there won’t be a “fiscal cliff,” Faber told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”
“The market is going down because corporate profits will begin to disappoint, the global economy will hardly grow next year or even contract, and that is the reason why stocks, from the highs of September of 1,470 on the S&P, will drop at least 20 percent, in my view.”
Faber, who is known for his bearish views, cited tech giant Apple[AAPL 542.83 ], a company whose disappointing earnings have caused its stock to fall 20 percent from its September highs and 14 percent in the past month.
A series of poor quarterly earnings from corporate giants such as Amazon[AMZN 226.47 ], McDonalds[MCD 84.88 ] and Google[GOOG 665.90 ]have hurt investor sentiment in recent weeks.
Faber argued that the “fiscal cliff,” a rise in taxes and automatic spending cuts, would actually involve some minor tax increases in “five years’ time” and some spending cuts “in 100 years.”
RELATED LINKS

· On Ice! ‘Cliff’ Fears Put a Chill on Dividend Stocks
· West in a ‘Colossal Mess’ in Five to 10 Years: Marc Faber
· Marc Faber: Buy These to Prepare for Coming Collapse
· Marc Faber: If I Were Bernanke, I Would Resign
What the U.S. needed was some pain, he said, aptly demonstrated by the euro zone’s austerity measures that are attempting, with a mixed measure of success, to curb gaping budget deficits.
“There will be pain and there will be very substantial pain. The question is do we take less pain now through austerity or risk a complete collapse of society in five to ten years’ time?” he said, adding that there was a lack of political will to tackle the U.S. budget.
(Read More: Forget Mayans, Be Afraid of US Budget Armageddon)
“In a democracy, they’re not going to take the pain, they’re going to kick down the problems and they’re going to get bigger and bigger.”
Payback Time
Faber identified several issues curbing an economic recovery, such as the real estate market, which he said had never been so “overbuilt.” He also said there was lots more deleveraging ahead.
 
Marc Faber: Prepare for a Massive Market Meltdown

Published: Tuesday, 13 Nov 2012 | 7:54 AM ET
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By:Holly Ellyatt
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The markets are going to go into meltdown soon so expect stocks to lose 20 percent of their value, Marc Faber, author of the Gloom, Boom and Doom report told CNBC on Tuesday.

Bloomberg | Getty Images
Marc Faber, managing director of Marc Faber Ltd. and publisher of the Gloom, Boom and Doom Report

“I don’t think markets are going down because of Greece, I don’t think markets are going down because of the “fiscal cliff”– because there won’t be a “fiscal cliff,” Faber told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”
“The market is going down because corporate profits will begin to disappoint, the global economy will hardly grow next year or even contract, and that is the reason why stocks, from the highs of September of 1,470 on the S&P, will drop at least 20 percent, in my view.”
Faber, who is known for his bearish views, cited tech giant Apple[AAPL 542.83 ], a company whose disappointing earnings have caused its stock to fall 20 percentfrom its September highs and 14 percent in the past month.
A series of poor quarterly earnings from corporate giants such as Amazon[AMZN 226.47 ], McDonalds[MCD 84.88 ]and Google[GOOG 665.90 ]have hurt investor sentiment in recent weeks.
Faber argued that the “fiscal cliff,” a rise in taxes and automatic spending cuts, would actually involve some minor tax increases in “five years’ time” and some spending cuts “in 100 years.”
RELATED LINKS

· On Ice! ‘Cliff’ Fears Put a Chill on Dividend Stocks
· West in a ‘Colossal Mess’ in Five to 10 Years: Marc Faber
· Marc Faber: Buy These to Prepare for Coming Collapse
· Marc Faber: If I Were Bernanke, I Would Resign
What the U.S. needed was some pain, he said, aptly demonstrated by the euro zone’s austerity measures that are attempting, with a mixed measure of success, to curb gaping budget deficits.
“There will be pain and there will be very substantial pain. The question is do we take less pain now through austerity or risk a complete collapse of society in five to ten years’ time?” he said, adding that there was a lack of political will to tackle the U.S. budget.
(Read More:Forget Mayans, Be Afraid of US Budget Armageddon)
“In a democracy, they’re not going to take the pain, they’re going to kick down the problems and they’re going to get bigger and bigger.”
Payback Time
Faber identified several issues curbing an economic recovery, such as the real estate market, which he said had never been so “overbuilt.” He also said there was lots more deleveraging ahead.


Anche se sarei d'accordo sui valori in linea di massima,da seguire mano mano l'evoluzione... bisogna pero' dire che Faber e' come Roubini :ne hanno presa una nella vita e vivono di rendita per il resto.

tipo "volare" per modugno

sara' almeno 3 volte che annuncia lo storno negli ultimi 2 anni e sempre della stessa portata : cosa che non e' mai avvenuto
 
Marc Faber: Prepare for a Massive Market Meltdown

Published: Tuesday, 13 Nov 2012 | 7:54 AM ET
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By:Holly Ellyatt
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The markets are going to go into meltdown soon so expect stocks to lose 20 percent of their value, Marc Faber, author of the Gloom, Boom and Doom report told CNBC on Tuesday.

Bloomberg | Getty Images
Marc Faber, managing director of Marc Faber Ltd. and publisher of the Gloom, Boom and Doom Report

“I don’t think markets are going down because of Greece, I don’t think markets are going down because of the “fiscal cliff”– because there won’t be a “fiscal cliff,” Faber told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”
“The market is going down because corporate profits will begin to disappoint, the global economy will hardly grow next year or even contract, and that is the reason why stocks, from the highs of September of 1,470 on the S&P, will drop at least 20 percent, in my view.”
Faber, who is known for his bearish views, cited tech giant Apple[AAPL 542.83 ], a company whose disappointing earnings have caused its stock to fall 20 percentfrom its September highs and 14 percent in the past month.
A series of poor quarterly earnings from corporate giants such as Amazon[AMZN 226.47 ], McDonalds[MCD 84.88 ]and Google[GOOG 665.90 ]have hurt investor sentiment in recent weeks.
Faber argued that the “fiscal cliff,” a rise in taxes and automatic spending cuts, would actually involve some minor tax increases in “five years’ time” and some spending cuts “in 100 years.”
RELATED LINKS

· On Ice! ‘Cliff’ Fears Put a Chill on Dividend Stocks
· West in a ‘Colossal Mess’ in Five to 10 Years: Marc Faber
· Marc Faber: Buy These to Prepare for Coming Collapse
· Marc Faber: If I Were Bernanke, I Would Resign
What the U.S. needed was some pain, he said, aptly demonstrated by the euro zone’s austerity measures that are attempting, with a mixed measure of success, to curb gaping budget deficits.
“There will be pain and there will be very substantial pain. The question is do we take less pain now through austerity or risk a complete collapse of society in five to ten years’ time?” he said, adding that there was a lack of political will to tackle the U.S. budget.
(Read More:Forget Mayans, Be Afraid of US Budget Armageddon)
“In a democracy, they’re not going to take the pain, they’re going to kick down the problems and they’re going to get bigger and bigger.”
Payback Time
Faber identified several issues curbing an economic recovery, such as the real estate market, which he said had never been so “overbuilt.” He also said there was lots more deleveraging ahead.

nooooooooooooooooo cazzooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
Anche se sarei d'accordo sui valori in linea di massima,da seguire mano mano l'evoluzione... bisogna pero' dire che Faber e' come Roubini :ne hanno presa una nella vita e vivono di rendita per il resto.

tipo "volare" per modugno

sara' almeno 3 volte che annuncia lo storno negli ultimi 2 anni e sempre della stessa portata : cosa che non e' mai avvenuto

Prima o poi capita.. su questo non ci piove la questione allo stato attuale è se questa è la correzione del bull market ciclico del 2009/2012 ed allora bisogna mettersi al ribasso o se questa è solo una correzione di medio periodo che verrà poi riassorbita nel motto don't fight the Fed che ricordiamolo ha detto che è disposta a sostenere gli asset... Domenica ho detto che la stamperia al momento è a mezzo servizio ma nulla vieta che a Dicembre lancino un nuovo assalto allargando l'ammontare in acquisto.. e
 
Anche se sarei d'accordo sui valori in linea di massima,da seguire mano mano l'evoluzione... bisogna pero' dire che Faber e' come Roubini :ne hanno presa una nella vita e vivono di rendita per il resto.

tipo "volare" per modugno

sara' almeno 3 volte che annuncia lo storno negli ultimi 2 anni e sempre della stessa portata : cosa che non e' mai avvenuto
HAI RAGIONE FABER ne ha sbagliate molte ma e' invece molto bravo sulle commodity.

Ma quando vedo che una MC.DONALD riporta male mmmmmmmm..... avverto che la situazione nn e' delle piu' rosee.

poi chiaramente il mercato e' aperto a qualsiasi interpretazione.

Ti invito a leggere uno studio che ti ho inviato ieri , molto interessante
 
HAI RAGIONE FABER ne ha sbagliate molte ma e' invece molto bravo sulle commodity.

Ma quando vedo che una MC.DONALD riporta male mmmmmmmm..... avverto che la situazione nn e' delle piu' rosee.

poi chiaramente il mercato e' aperto a qualsiasi interpretazione.

Ti invito a leggere uno studio che ti ho inviato ieri , molto interessante



:up: confermo
 
Scusate, ma proviamo a ragionare per un attimo senza pensare all'at, ai cicli, alla Grecia, alla tristezza europea e al fiscal cliff...proviamoci e rendiamoci anche conto che da 12 mesi ad oggi e non vado volutamente oltre...sui mercati ne abbiamo viste di ogni, con situazioni gravi e al limite del non ritorno o sbaglio???...è da settembre 2012 che la stra-grande maggioranza degli analisti, guru ed esperti la menano con un crollo imminente in borsa...cosa che quando è avvenuta in passato, praticamente la messa in quel posto a quasi tutti in quanto il crollo è arrivato come un fulmine a ciel sereno o se preferite visto che siete rekkie come Nog al buio:D.

Quindi...io non è che voglia vedere a forza il bicchiere mezzo pieno...ma sinceramente mi sembra che vi siano troppe voci del coro che invocano il baratro per l'indomani...e ovviamente spero che si sbaglino, almeno questo è il mio pensiero.
 
Ecofin: sblocca aiuti a zone Emilia Romagna colpite da terremoto


BRUXELLES (MF-DJ)--I ministri delle Finanze dell'Unione europea hanno trovato un accordo sullo sblocco dei fondi dedicati alle aree colpite dal terremoto in Emilia Romagna.

Fonti della presidenza Ue confermano che si e' trovata un'intesa per il via libera ai fondi da 670 milioni di euro. La decisione deve ottenere ora il disco verde del Parlamento europeo.

(END) Dow Jones Newswires

November 13, 2012 09:26 ET (14:26 GMT)


da incorniciare, per una volta non hanno partorito una m.inkata :eek::eek:
 
Scusate, ma proviamo a ragionare per un attimo senza pensare all'at, ai cicli, alla Grecia, alla tristezza europea e al fiscal cliff...proviamoci e rendiamoci anche conto che da 12 mesi ad oggi e non vado volutamente oltre...sui mercati ne abbiamo viste di ogni, con situazioni gravi e al limite del non ritorno o sbaglio???...è da settembre 2012 che la stra-grande maggioranza degli analisti, guru ed esperti la menano con un crollo imminente in borsa...cosa che quando è avvenuta in passato, praticamente la messa in quel posto a quasi tutti in quanto il crollo è arrivato come un fulmine a ciel sereno o se preferite visto che siete rekkie come Nog al buio:D.

Quindi...io non è che voglia vedere a forza il bicchiere mezzo pieno...ma sinceramente mi sembra che vi siano troppe voci del coro che invocano il baratro per l'indomani...e ovviamente spero che si sbaglino, almeno questo è il mio pensiero.

Io preferisco le montagne russe a questo schifo che vediamo, se continuerà così e temo che da gennaio in poi ci sarà da piangere, gli unici che camperanno saranno i venditori di opzioni.
 

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