Obbligazioni perpetue e subordinate SNS Reeal in diretta: storia di un esproprio - Notizie, informazioni e commenti

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sono molto preoccupato, questa temo diventi una mezza lehman europea; esproprio è una parola che può devastare il mercato finanziario per molti anni. E tutti i sub.
E' incredibile come questi politici vengano lasciati liberi di fare danni inimmaginabili in una notte. E' incredibile come questi nordici riescano di tanto in tanto ad impuntarsi fino a perdere del tutto la ragionevolezza e senza valutare le conseguenze. Questo sembra un vero arbitrio ad uso populistico/elettorale .
spero che qualcuno stamane vada a dire a questo signore di aggiustare un po' il tiro, perchè distrugge tutto il giocattolo.

devo ripensare il mio coinvolgimento in subordinati tout court


l'hanno fato gli irlandesi e siamo sopravissuti
 
UPDATE 3-Netherlands nationalises SNS Reaal at cost of $5 blnExpand Story >>


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* Nationalisation to cost an initial 3.7 bln euros
* Seen pushing budget deficit further above target
* SNS Reaal to get 2.2 bln euros in capital, 1.1 bln in loans
* Also 5 bln euros in state guarantees
* SNS Reaal hit by soured property assets, management quits
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By Thomas Escritt and Anthony Deutsch
THE HAGUE/AMSTERDAM, Feb 1 (Reuters) - The Netherlands nationalised bank and insurance group SNS Reaal <SR.AS> at a cost of 3.7 billion euros ($5 billion) on Friday to shore up confidence in the financial sector after a private investor-led rescue collapsed.
Another state rescue of a financial group will lead to a worsening in the Dutch budget deficit this year - which is already forecast to exceed European Union targets - and is likely to prompt a public outcry given the billions of euros of budget cuts and austerity measures in recent years.
It is also a sign of how many European banks, five years on from the height of the global financial crisis, are struggling to turn a corner amid weak economies and tougher regulations. French bank Credit Agricole <CAGR.PA> announced over $5 billion of charges on Friday, a day after Deutsche Bank <DBKGn.DE> also unveiled big writedowns. [nL5N0B11VV] [nL5N0B01SC]
The Dutch government paid out nearly 40 billion euros to rescue the domestic financial sector in 2008 when it provided capital injections for ING <ING.N> , Aegon <AEGN.AS> and SNS Reaal, as well as nationalising ABN AMRO [ABNNL.UL] .
SNS Reaal, the fourth-biggest financial institution in the Netherlands with about 134 billion euros in assets last year, was hit by losses at its property unit and has been trying for months to sell assets and secure additional funding.
The emergency bailout was necessary after SNS Reaal failed to meet a Jan. 31 deadline to come up with a rescue, Finance Minister Jeroen Dijsselbloem told a press conference.
Its collapse "would have unacceptably large and undesirable consequences for financial stability, the Dutch economy and the Dutch tax payer," Dijsselbloem wrote in a letter to parliament.
"I have studied all the alternative solutions in detail. But last night I found there was no acceptable solution. Therefore we have to nationalise," he added in a statement.
SNS Reaal will receive a capital injection of 2.2 billion euros, 1.1 billion euros in loans, and 5 billion euros in state guarantees. Dutch banks will contribute an additional, one-off charge of 1 billion euros to the rescue in 2014.
"I can understand the reluctance that many will feel again because a large amount of public money is required. Therefore I want the private sector to contribute as much as possible to help pay for the rescue of SNS Reaal," Dijsselbloem said.
SNS Reaal, which received 750 million euros of state aid in 2008, said its top executives - chairman Rob Zwartendijk, chief executive Ronald Latenstein and finance chief Ference Lamp - had resigned, as they still wanted to find a private sector solution.
SNS Reaal's property finance exposure, including commercial real estate loans to small and medium-sized companies, stood at 9.8 billion euros at the end of September, of which 2.3 billion euros were non-performing loans.
It has booked more than 1.3 billion euros of net losses on its property loans since 2009.
Dutch media reported on Thursday that a consortium led by private equity firm CVC Capital Partners was in talks to pump up to 1.8 billion euros into SNS Reaal, but a source familiar with the matter said talks with private investors had not worked out.
(Writing by Sara Webb; Editing by Hans-Juergen Peters and Mark Potter)
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Keywords: DUTCHFINANCE/CENBANK
 
pensavo di aver visto le peggio nefandezze in Grecia...
Non era cosi' e' allucinante...
Alla luce di questi due ultimi episodi Seat p.g. e SNS e' da rivedere il riskio...
A questo punto una sola mossa sbagliata non mi bastetebbe il resto dei giorni per lavorare e pagare i debiti...
Se con le gialle mi sarei salvato e pareva un disastro ...con SNSpraticamente mi dovevo vendere la meta' della casa...
Una pagina di storia si e' conclusa ...qua c'e' da ricalibrare tutto...riskio - rendimenti...
il bello e' che poi l'Irlanda (banca irlandese)e' gia' uscita con lt 2 e se lo strappano dalle mani ...pazzesco...

Questo segna veramente un cambio di rotta, considerato anche la carica che il ricciolino.. Per fortuna ero poco esposto sulla 155 (anche se mi girano perché ieri non mi hanno preso la vendita per pochi centesimi...)
 
Mi dispiace sinceramente, un'epilogo davvero assurdo.
Io ho fatto la culata dell'anno, ho venduto ieri gli ultimi due lotti della 155 per comprare le Generali 7.75%, non mi bastavano i soldi...
Che culo, sono poi sfigato in tutto il resto, quindi compenso.
Sulla questione causa o non urge commento di Zorba, il più qualificato a dare consigli su come agire.
 

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