bund & c.: la partenza a razzo. Seduti? Pronti? Viaaaaaa

Tornato - che mercato fiacco :wall: - ho il sospetto che continuino a comprarsi europa contro US ... il venerdi è giorno di vendita di vola (sul weekend costa) - fra poco inizio a trafficar di cena :pizza: cosi mi diverto un pò :p
 
gastronomo ha scritto:
Tornato - che mercato fiacco :wall: - ho il sospetto che continuino a comprarsi europa contro US ... il venerdi è giorno di vendita di vola (sul weekend costa) - fra poco inizio a trafficar di cena :pizza: cosi mi diverto un pò :p

yesss
infatti aspetto lunedì a far l'acq di call
quelle con scadenza dicembre ormai hanno un timedecay terrificate

c'è un paragrafo divertente in '' dynamic hedging'' di Taleb che dice come alcune broker firm di venerdì usino la vola come per lunedì, altre usano ancora il venerdì e molte facciano una media :lol:

uè Gastro, ma vedersi no eh?
 
f4f ha scritto:
ciao bbbanda

stasera mi studio un vertical spread
generali scadenza dic05 close 26.8

acq call 26 -089
vend call 27 +026
esborso -.63
max loss 063
max gain 1 - 063 = 037
però è di molto bene impostata la piccola
a domani :)

adesso vale 27.48 :specchio: :specchio: :specchio: :specchio: :specchio: :specchio: :specchio: :specchio:
 
Oggi l'Alpin non s'è visto...movimento violentissimo su australia ( :wall: ) e nz - che abbian chiuso i corti sul G7? Maledetta australia...
 
gastronomo ha scritto:
Oggi l'Alpin non s'è visto...movimento violentissimo su australia ( :wall: ) e nz - che abbian chiuso i corti sul G7? Maledetta australia...

ECCHIME, venerdì ho tirato uno stoppone incredibbile sul dollaro yen ed ero in meditazione se ne valesse la pena continuare con stà fogna che non dà segni di reattività. :( :( :rolleyes:

Su zelandese ed aud ho chiuso tutto, in perdita ovviamente il zelandese ma mi sono salvato benino, il zelandese l'ho chiuso a 0.7040 ... insomma quà non è poi andata male, nonostante lo spread mi andasse contro sono riuscito a portare a casa 3800 $ alla fine della fiera ... il vero problema è stato lo yen che in un mese mi ha tirato una saponata tanto !!! :wall:
... alla fine non ho retto ed ho chiusto tutto per esasperazione .... orco zio !!! In un mese di ribasso sembrava volersi mangiare pure il supportone a 8300 che resse per tutto il 2003 .... se considero che l'euro non ha ancora rotto al ribasso e lo danno sui 1,15 - 1,135 sullo yen cè solo da riempirsi le mutande !! :eek: :eek: :eek:

... insomma sullo yen siamo tiratissimi ed ogni cosa chiamerebbe rimbalzo ma lo tengono schiacciato in malomodo (e quì possono essere solo movimenti di banche centrali) .... preferisco incassare la perdita ed attendere tempi migliori. Valutavo invece di fare shopping sulle opzioni dell' €/$ se si arriva a 1,14 - 1,135 .... vediamo se riesco a recuperare il maltolto. :rolleyes: certo che l'euro è un'altra storia, lì più o meno un pò di vola si sviluppa, lo yen invece ... cribbio ... c'è solo da piangere se sei dalla parte sbagliata. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :rolleyes:


buon we a todos
 
:ciao:
mi dispiace molto, caro Andrea; a giudicare da questo articolo hai fatto bene, per quanto doloroso - sto uscendo, ci sentiamo fra un paio d'ore

Yen Drops After Japan's Officials Suggest They're Unconcerned
Dec. 5 (Bloomberg) -- The yen fell to a 32-month low versus the dollar after Japan's Finance Minister Sadakazu Tanigaki and central bank Chief Toshihiko Fukui signaled they aren't concerned about the currency's 15 percent decline this year.

The value of the yen reflects the performance of the world's two largest economies, Tanigaki said during the weekend's Group of Seven meeting. Fukui said a slide in the yen is ``not a problem.'' Japan's currency is set for its biggest annual drop against the dollar since 1979 as seven interest-rate increases by the Federal Reserve lured investors to the U.S.

``The G-7 meeting basically signaled they accepted a weaker yen,'' said Yasuhiro Miyata, who helps oversee the equivalent of about $16.5 billion in assets at DLIBJ Asset Management Co. in Tokyo. ``With Japanese authorities' comments, there's no reason to stop the yen from falling to 125 by year-end.''

Against the dollar, the yen slid to 121.24 at 6:20 a.m. in London, from 120.60 in New York on Dec. 2, according to electronic currency trading system EBS. It traded as low as 121.39, the weakest since March 21, 2003. Against the euro, the yen was at 141.88, after reaching a record low 141.98, from 141.30. The dollar traded at $1.1700 versus the euro, from $1.1717.

Fifty-eight percent of the 57 traders, strategists and investors surveyed by Bloomberg News on Dec. 2 from Sydney to New York recommended buying the dollar and selling the yen.

`Will Not Act'

The yen has declined as the BOJ has held its interest rate near zero percent since 2001 while the Fed lifted U.S. rates to 4 percent and the European Central Bank Dec. 1 raised its rate to 2.25 percent, the first increase in five years.

The weaker currency has helped the Nikkei 225 Stock Average climb to the highest in more than five years as it makes exporters more competitive. The Nikkei rose 0.8 percent today to 15,551.31.

``Japanese financial authorities are not at all concerned about the yen's drop,'' said Etsuko Yamashita, chief economist in Tokyo at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corp. ``With the Nikkei jumping above 15,000, propelled by the weaker yen, they will not act in the currency market unless we see turbulent ups and downs.''

The yen may fall to 122.50 per dollar and 142.50 versus the euro this week, Yamashita said.

`Surprising'

``Generally speaking, foreign-exchange rates reflect fundamentals of economies,'' Tanigaki told reporters at the meeting of finance ministers and central bankers in London. The G-7 includes the U.S., Japan, Germany, France, Canada, Italy and the U.K., which oversee two-thirds of the world's economy.

Tanigaki said he and U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow didn't discuss the yen.

``It was surprising Snow did not say anything about the depreciation of the yen,'' said Michiyoshi Kato, vice president of foreign-exchange sales in Tokyo at Mizuho Corporate Bank Ltd., a unit of Japan's second-largest lender by assets. ``Combined with Tanigaki's and Fukui's comments, this will further encourage yen-selling today,'' to 121.70 against the dollar.

The yen's decline may be limited after a technical indicator some traders use to predict currency movements signaled that losses may stall.

The dollar's 14-day relative strength index against the yen was 74.8. The euro had a reading of 69.4 against the yen. A level above 70 or below 30 signals a reversal may occur.

``I won't be surprised to see the dollar face a short-term downward correction,'' said Akihiro Tanaka, a senior currency dealer in Tokyo at Resona Bank Ltd. ``One small thing could lead to a correction of the dollar-yen.''

Japan's currency may rise to 120.80 against the dollar and 141.50 per euro today, Tanaka said.

`Fresh Incentive'

The dollar may benefit from speculation a report today will show U.S. service industries expanded in November, reinforcing the view U.S. growth is strong enough for the central bank to raise interest rates further.

The Institute for Supply Management's measure of financial services, retailing, building and non-manufacturing businesses probably come in at 59, above the 50-point line that signifies expansion.

``U.S. service industries data will be yet another fresh incentive to push up the dollar, strengthening expectations of Fed's further rate hikes,'' said Kato at Mizuho Corporate Bank Ltd., who said the dollar may rise to $1.1660 per euro today.

`Very Unlikely'

The yen is heading for a sixth straight annual decline against Europe's 12-nation currency, which debuted in 1999.

There is domestic and international pressure on the BOJ to retain its easy monetary policy, said Toru Umemoto, chief currency analyst in Tokyo at Barclays Plc.

``Lots of politicians say the BOJ should continue easing money supply, and also the Organisation for Economic Co- operation and Development and the International Monetary Fund argue the BOJ should continue easing as long as deflation pressure is maintained,'' Umemoto said. ``The BOJ is very unlikely to raise overnight call rates in the coming one year.''

The yen may fall to 160 against the dollar in a few years, Umemoto said.

Japan's currency is the second-worst performer this year after the Swedish krona among the 17 most active currencies Bloomberg tracks, as investors buy higher-yielding assets.
 
Che legnata le mie 122 call sul bund :specchio: ...
Sempre per parlare di yen
Reuters
Yen sinks against dollar after G7
Sunday December 4, 10:03 pm ET
By Eric Burroughs


TOKYO (Reuters) - The yen sank to a 32-month low against the dollar and an all-time nadir versus the euro on Monday after Japanese officials signaled on the sides of a G7 meeting their comfort with the currency's slide.

The yen was not a topic at the weekend meeting of finance ministers and central bankers from the world's leading economies, giving market players more reason to think that Group of Seven officials have no qualms about the currency's weakness.

Speculation has stirred that Japan may be getting nervous about the yen's widespread decline this year as investors have chased higher yields elsewhere with the Bank of Japan seen keeping overnight rates near zero for an extended period.

But Finance Minister Sadakazu Tanigaki said after the G7 meeting that the yen's fall through 121 to the dollar reflected economic fundamentals, sticking to the ministry's script in signing off on currency moves.
BOJ Governor Toshihiko Fukui said the weaker yen was not a problem and was consistent with the central bank's policy of fostering growth.
Big buying of foreign bonds by Japanese investors, combined with foreigners hedging their purchases of Tokyo shares to protect against a further yen drop, have helped drive the dollar up about 18 percent versus the yen this year.

"It's just plain yen selling," said Tatsuro Karitani, a senior trader at Mizuho Corporate Bank.

"Rates are going up everywhere but here, key chart levels are broken. With retail and institutional investors buying foreign currencies, I don't see a reversal in this trend for the rest of the month."

By 0225 GMT, the dollar was changing hands around 121.35 yen, up 0.6 percent on the day and the highest since March 2003. The euro was around 141.95 yen, up 0.5 percent and its highest since the single currency was launched in 1999.

Against other currencies, the yen also tumbled to new depths on Monday: a 13-year low against the Canadian dollar, eight-year lows versus the New Zealand and Australian dollars, and a seven-year low against the British pound.

A Bank of Japan index showed that through the first part of November, the yen hit a 20-year low on a trade-weighted and inflation-adjusted basis.

The euro lost ground against the U.S. currency, slipping to $1.1700 from around $1.1720 in late New York trade on Friday and not far from a two-year low of $1.1640.

YUAN AND RATES

More pressure from the G7 on Beijing to take more steps to loosen the yuan did little to help the yen, which speculators snapped up in the past as a proxy for when China would eventually let its currency appreciate.

China revalued the yuan on July 21 and now manages it against a currency basket, but since then the yuan has appreciated just 0.4 percent against the dollar. Beijing has said it would reform the exchange rate at its own pace.

The yen has weakened despite mounting evidence that Japan is on the verge of escaping nearly eight years of deflation, prompting the BOJ to move slowly toward ditching its ultra-loose monetary policy.

Still, the BOJ has made clear it intends to keep overnight rates close to zero for a while even after scrapping the policy of flooding money markets with cash.

By contrast, the Federal Reserve is poised to raise rates for a 13th straight time on December 13, taking the fed funds rate to 4.25 percent. Markets expect the rate to rise to at least 4.5 percent next year.

Last week the European Central Bank raised rates for the first time in five years to 2.25 percent but has indicated there would not be an extended stretch of monetary tightening, limiting the euro's gains against the dollar.

"The Japanese yen will remain the weakest currency on the interest rate differentials," said Kikuko Takeda, a currency strategist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi. "Pressure against the yen will be spreading."

(Additional reporting by Chikako Mogi)
 
gastronomo ha scritto:
Che legnata le mie 122 call sul bund :specchio: ...
Sempre per parlare di yen
Reuters
Yen sinks against dollar after G7
Sunday December 4, 10:03 pm ET
By Eric Burroughs

Letta letta gastro ... stanno buttando benzina sul fuoco. :down: :down: :rolleyes:


se poi consideri che l'euro lo si vede tra 1,14 e 1,36 e fai 4 conti con le regole di composizione dei cambi e facile vedere come il dollaro yen sembra essere destinato ad andare a 125 :eek: :eek: :eek:


... tanto per farti capire :

EUR/USD = 1.17
USD/YEN = 8260 ovvero 0.008260; il cui inverso è il valore di spot 1/0.008260 = 121.06
EUR/YEN = 141.8


[1/(EUR/YEN)] * EUR/USD = YEN/EUR * EUR/USD = YEN/USD

1/(YEN/USD) = USD/YEN

Con * operatore di concatenazione transitivo

che in parole povere vuol dire ricavare il cambio dollaro yen dai suoi affiliati.

Es:

USD/YEN = 141.8 / 1.17 = 121.19


.... ora se consideriamo una seppur minima rivalutazione dell' EUR/YEN a 142 (... perchè lo yen si stà svalutando rispetto a tutte le altre monete) e consideriamo la discesa dell'euro dollaro a target otteniamo che il cambio dollaro yen se ne và a ...

USD/YEN = 142 / 1.14 = 124.56
 

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