Un commento pessimista di El-Erian sulle vicende libiche

Libya Turmoil ‘Stagflationary,’ Pimco’s El-Erian Says: Tom Keene
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By Liz Capo McCormick and Tom Keene


Feb. 22 (Bloomberg) -- The spread of political turmoil to Libya will add “stagflationary winds” to the global economy, according to Mohamed El-Erian, chief executive officer at Pacific Investment Management Co.

Protests in Libya, holder of Africa’s largest oil reserves, poses more “systemic” risk to the global economy as opposed to the upheaval in Egypt and Tunisia, El-Erian said in a Bloomberg Television interview with Tom Keene on the “Surveillance Midday” program. Western nations will face accelerating inflation and smaller demand in the Mideast and North Africa for their exports, on top of the “new normal” of slower growth and lingering higher unemployment, according to El-Erian.

There will be “higher inflation and lower growth because of higher oil prices, which take away purchasing power and transfers wealth somewhere else,” El-Erian said. There will be “higher geopolitical risk, which tends to diminish animal spirits and therefore impacts investments. From an economic perspective, it’s important for the West to understand that these are stagflationary winds.”

Oil surged to a two-year high as Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi vowed to fight a growing rebellion until his “last drop of blood.” Speaking in Tripoli, the capital, he also pledged to deploy the army and police tomorrow to impose order and called on supporters to reclaim the streets. Continued protests “will lead to civil war,” Qaddafi said,

Qaddafi’s crackdown on a weeklong uprising has already left more than 200 dead, according to Human Rights Watch.

Crude Oil Gains

Crude oil for March delivery gained $7.37, or 8.6 percent, to $93.57 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Prices touched $94.49 a barrel, the highest level since Oct. 3, 2008. Futures have risen 15 percent in the past year.

Libya is the latest nation to be rocked by protests ignited by last month’s ouster of Tunisia’s president and fanned by the Feb. 11 fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. While violent unrest has also spread to Bahrain, Iran and Yemen, none of those regimes has used as much force to quell protesters as Libya.

The unrest in the Middle East and North Africa will be “stagflationary” for the global economy in the short term because it will increase oil and commodity prices and shrinks the markets in which anti-government demonstrations have taken place, El-Erian said in commentary in the Financial Times today.

“Over time, however, such market apprehension is likely to give way as the impact of greater long-term stability in a key part of the world is felt,” he wrote. “In the long term, after all, democracy and individual freedoms are the best drivers of prosperity.”

Dollar ‘Warning’

The U.S. dollar, which typically rises in times of political unrest, was little changed against the euro, trading at $1.3663, while currencies such as the Swiss franc rallied on demand for a refuge from geopolitical turmoil.

The performance of the dollar is “a warning shot to America that we cannot simply assume flight to quality, flight to safety,” El-Erian said in the Bloomberg TV interview. “People are starting to worry about the fiscal situation in the U.S. They are starting to worry about the level of debt.”

The franc jumped 1.1 percent to 1.2814 versus the euro in New York trading after earlier reaching 1.2792, the strongest level since Jan. 31.

“We cannot assume that we will maintain the standing of the reserve currency as we have done in the past,” El-Erian added.

Pimco, a unit of the Munich-based insurer Allianz SE, manages $1.24 trillion of assets as the world’s biggest manager of bond funds.
 
Di fronte a tutti questi segnali di inflazione / stagflazione e warnings vari che posizioni dovrebbe prendere un povero cassettista , se stante essere fortemente diversificato su corporate solide e governativi che per il mom non sono sotto i riflettori e cercare di stare leggero nei titoli lunghi et essere liquido al 40 % ?
(....qualche tit storico greco e portoghese e qualche piccola tranche di tit lunghi , incl. qualche perp e lt2 me li tengo....)
Qualche suggerimento ?
In previsione dell' aumento dei tassi ce' stata una corsa al cercare il rendimento spostando capitali sull ' equity e sull' HY uscendo dai titoli medio e medio lunghi e questo trend mi sembra si sia fermato recentemente anche per i dubbi che il rialzo della BCE non avvenga a breve e per le varie turbolenze tra magreb e middle east .
In questa situazione ci potrebbe essere un ritorno sull' obbligazzionario ?:rolleyes:
grazie e complimenti !
 
Di fronte a tutti questi segnali di inflazione / stagflazione e warnings vari che posizioni dovrebbe prendere un povero cassettista , se stante essere fortemente diversificato su corporate solide e governativi che per il mom non sono sotto i riflettori e cercare di stare leggero nei titoli lunghi et essere liquido al 40 % ?
(....qualche tit storico greco e portoghese e qualche piccola tranche di tit lunghi , incl. qualche perp e lt2 me li tengo....)
Qualche suggerimento ?
In previsione dell' aumento dei tassi ce' stata una corsa al cercare il rendimento spostando capitali sull ' equity e sull' HY uscendo dai titoli medio e medio lunghi e questo trend mi sembra si sia fermato recentemente anche per i dubbi che il rialzo della BCE non avvenga a breve e per le varie turbolenze tra magreb e middle east .
In questa situazione ci potrebbe essere un ritorno sull' obbligazzionario ?:rolleyes:
grazie e complimenti !

anche se alzassero i tassi non è detto che sia la parte lunga a soffrire. Anzi a me sembra di notare che ci siano flussi sulla parte lunga di qualità nell'ultimo mese.
 
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tutti sti casini porteranno all'interno dei paesi produttori di oil-gas una ridistribuzione della ricchezza su una fascia più ampia di popolazione (non più un ristretto manipolo di oligarchi). morale: nuovi mercati a cui vendere prodotti di aziende occidentali

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come da sempre, penso che l'inflazione sarà superiore ai tassi a breve per ridurre il peso dei debiti accumulati

1+2=inflazione=attenzione al tf sotto il 4%
io comunque preferisco titoli cpi
non tengo quasi niente di euribor+spiccili perchè rendono di più i pct

invito a riflettere sul punto 2
-a me non sembra casuale che tutte ste rivolte siano cominciate proprio adesso
-a pensarci bene, ci sono una valanga di aree mondiali ancora da "trasformare" in nuovi mercati
diciamo che ancora per qualche decennio l'occidente ha un buon serbatoio per risolvere le sue crisi e continuare a godersi la vita e consumare le risorse naturali lasciando sgobbare gli altri
pensate solo alla cina con 1/4 della popolazione mondiale di potenziali clienti. e prima o poi la rivoluzione arriva pure lì, hai voglia ad inspessire la pentola a pressione
(come puzzano tutte quelle scarmuccie con gli usa sulla libertà delle comunicazioni informatiche)
 
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Un passaggio arguto, oltre che tecnicamente corretto, tratto da un report di Andreas Hoefert, capo economista di UBS:


"Paraphrasing Lenin, as quoted by Keynes, the best way to destroy a nation is to debauch its currency. While the origin of this remark is disputed, I think it neatly summarizes one of the real causes of the turmoil today in the Middle East and North Africa.
Counterfeit money has often been used to destabilize enemy regimes during wars, triggering price increases and sending inflation out of control. However, it was not a forged currency that sent the people of Tunisia out into the streets in January, the dramatic consequences of which are still unfolding. Rather, it was America's ultra-expansive monetary policy.
The US Federal Reserve's quantitative easing has flooded the world with liquidity, which in turn has fueled price increases of many assets, agricultural commodities among them. While drought and forest fires in Russia and floods in Australia certainly contributed to surging food prices, the main driver, in my view, is the deluge of money spilling from US printing presses.
Countries whose currencies are pegged or closely aligned with the US dollar, like many of those in North Africa and the Middle East, took the biggest hits as food prices climbed. To be clear, I am not arguing that US monetary policy is the sole cause of the far-reaching events now unfolding in these countries, but it was certainly a major factor.
Seeking phantom weapons of mass destruction, George W. Bush tried and failed to set the region's dominoes of democracy in motion by brute force. Today, probably inadvertently, Fed President Ben Bernanke has accomplished this miracle with weapons of monetary destruction. Who could have imagined it?"
 
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Un passaggio arguto, oltre che tecnicamente corretto, tratto da un report di Andreas Hoefert, capo economista di UBS:


"Paraphrasing Lenin, as quoted by Keynes, the best way to destroy a nation is to debauch its currency. While the origin of this remark is disputed, I think it neatly summarizes one of the real causes of the turmoil today in the Middle East and North Africa.
Counterfeit money has often been used to destabilize enemy regimes during wars, triggering price increases and sending inflation out of control. However, it was not a forged currency that sent the people of Tunisia out into the streets in January, the dramatic consequences of which are still unfolding. Rather, it was America's ultra-expansive monetary policy.
The US Federal Reserve's quantitative easing has flooded the world with liquidity, which in turn has fueled price increases of many assets, agricultural commodities among them. While drought and forest fires in Russia and floods in Australia certainly contributed to surging food prices, the main driver, in my view, is the deluge of money spilling from US printing presses.
Countries whose currencies are pegged or closely aligned with the US dollar, like many of those in North Africa and the Middle East, took the biggest hits as food prices climbed. To be clear, I am not arguing that US monetary policy is the sole cause of the far-reaching events now unfolding in these countries, but it was certainly a major factor.
Seeking phantom weapons of mass destruction, George W. Bush tried and failed to set the region's dominoes of democracy in motion by brute force. Today, probably inadvertently, Fed President Ben Bernanke has accomplished this miracle with weapons of monetary destruction. Who could have imagined it?"

ma guarda un po'...
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dicembre 2008:D:D... che mi prendano all'UBS?
e mica ho studiato economia...
 
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ma guarda un po'...
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dicembre 2008:D:D... che mi prendano all'UBS?
e mica ho studiato economia...

Ciao Sam:
credo che l'economista di UBS avanzi, con molta ironia sull'incapacità americana di raggiungere i risultati che si prefigge, una teoria diversa. Contrariamente a Bush, Bernanke avrebbe portato (involontariamente) sì la guerra; ma anche una rivoluzione democratica.
Il tuo messaggio mi sembra molto più amaro.
Se ambisci a farti assumere da UBS, secondo me dovrai fare un altro tentativo :lol:
 
Una sintesi estrema della visione sui bonds, moderatamente ottimistica, da un report di UBS della settimana scorsa:

• Government bond yields increased further over the last month, though more gradually than at the end of 2010. The improved growth outlook for the developed world, the expected normalization of central bank rates, as well as rising inflation concerns will continue to drag on the asset class.
• We see better opportunities in other fixed-income segments. High-yield corporate bonds are still supported by very strong corporate fundamentals and emerging market debt should profit from lower indebtedness and higher growth rates.
• Corporate bonds in the investment-grade segment have on average returned to fair valuations. Furthermore, their performance will be negatively affected by rising government yields. We would invest very selectively into areas where we still see value.
 

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