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Impennata?

Sulla 19 6.5% è arrivato un acquistone da 180k con +4.05%

Che sia un inizio di impennata??

Impennata o lenta risalita, va bene lo stesso. Lo speriamo in tanti ormai, credo, anche perchè chi voleva acquistare ha già avuto tutte le opportunità per farlo. Io ho acquistato fino al 2 luglio, e tra cippi vari son dentro con diverse decine di K, ma a buon prezzo però..... Liquidità ai minimi termini per la mia operatività (20%). Opero in Grecia dal 21 aprile, e adesso è ora delle prime cedolone..
Ciao, Giuseppe

 

[METHOS]

L'8 luglio è una data cruciale in quanto il parlamento vota per la riforma delle pensioni. Ovviamente i sindacati scenderanno in piazza.

Da quanto letto sta riforma non mi sembra draconiana. Si alza l'eta pensionabile a 65 e si mette un 10% di tasse sulle pensioni che superano i 1400 euro.

Non so cosa abbiano da protestare sti sindacati, andassero a lourdes a ringraziare se bastasse questo a mantenere il sistema pensionistico...

Greek PM defends government's decision on drastic reforms ​

English.news.cn 2010-07-05 04:20:34Feedback

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ATHENS, July 4 (Xinhua) -- Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou defended his government's decision to proceed to drastic changes in the social security and pension system and urged people to act with responsibility in an interview published by Greek newspaper "Eleftherotypia" on Sunday.
The Greek parliament is scheduled to vote for the bill of pension system reform on July 8 while the Greek unions called on a new nation-wide strike on the same day.
"The ratification of the bill amounts to a vote of responsibility by members of parliament towards Greek society and future generations," stressed Papandreou in the interview.
"What is at stake is the future of the country," added the Greek prime minister, noting that there are already results from the sacrifices Greek people were called to make this year in order to overcome a severe economic crisis that hit the country in late 2009.
The bill will raise the minimum retirement age to 65 years for all Greek employees in the public and private sector and introduce a levy of three to 10 percent for pensions above 1,400 euros per month. It is promoted by the government as the only solution to rescue the social security and pension system from collapse.
Apart from the labor unions which have called for a new general strike on July 8, main opposition parties, even some members of the ruling socialist PASOK party oppose to changes, talking of unbearable and unfair burdens to low and medium-income families.
Asked to comment on persistent scenarios printed in Greek media regarding possible early general elections this autumn, only one year after the elections that brought PASOK to power, Papandreou categorically denied the idea.
"The only thing that concerns us is the work that needs to be done, the reforms that must be implemented in Greece," said Papandreou, adding that there is light at the end of the tunnel, there is money available and that his government is determined to put things in order and fight wide spread corruption.
The ruling party has a majority of 157 seats in the 300-member parliament. Analysts believe that despite reactions among socialist members of parliament, the bill will be ratified.
The bill on the first package of austerity measures this spring was ratified, but three PASOK parliamentarians who voted against, were expelled from the parliamentary group of the ruling party.

Editor: Mu Xuequan​

 

[Topgun1976]

L'8 luglio è una data cruciale in quanto il parlamento vota per la riforma delle pensioni. Ovviamente i sindacati scenderanno in piazza.

Da quanto letto sta riforma non mi sembra draconiana. Si alza l'eta pensionabile a 65 e si mette un 10% di tasse sulle pensioni che superano i 1400 euro.

Non so cosa abbiano da protestare sti sindacati, andassero a lourdes a ringraziare se bastasse questo a mantenere il sistema pensionistico...

Greek PM defends government's decision on drastic reforms ​

English.news.cn 2010-07-05 04:20:34Feedback

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RSS

ATHENS, July 4 (Xinhua) -- Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou defended his government's decision to proceed to drastic changes in the social security and pension system and urged people to act with responsibility in an interview published by Greek newspaper "Eleftherotypia" on Sunday.
The Greek parliament is scheduled to vote for the bill of pension system reform on July 8 while the Greek unions called on a new nation-wide strike on the same day.
"The ratification of the bill amounts to a vote of responsibility by members of parliament towards Greek society and future generations," stressed Papandreou in the interview.
"What is at stake is the future of the country," added the Greek prime minister, noting that there are already results from the sacrifices Greek people were called to make this year in order to overcome a severe economic crisis that hit the country in late 2009.
The bill will raise the minimum retirement age to 65 years for all Greek employees in the public and private sector and introduce a levy of three to 10 percent for pensions above 1,400 euros per month. It is promoted by the government as the only solution to rescue the social security and pension system from collapse.
Apart from the labor unions which have called for a new general strike on July 8, main opposition parties, even some members of the ruling socialist PASOK party oppose to changes, talking of unbearable and unfair burdens to low and medium-income families.
Asked to comment on persistent scenarios printed in Greek media regarding possible early general elections this autumn, only one year after the elections that brought PASOK to power, Papandreou categorically denied the idea.
"The only thing that concerns us is the work that needs to be done, the reforms that must be implemented in Greece," said Papandreou, adding that there is light at the end of the tunnel, there is money available and that his government is determined to put things in order and fight wide spread corruption.
The ruling party has a majority of 157 seats in the 300-member parliament. Analysts believe that despite reactions among socialist members of parliament, the bill will be ratified.
The bill on the first package of austerity measures this spring was ratified, but three PASOK parliamentarians who voted against, were expelled from the parliamentary group of the ruling party.

Editor: Mu Xuequan​

Non c'era nulla di draconiano nemmeno nella riforma precedente,ma i media come sai fanno passare quello che volgiono alla gente.

 

[Gaudente]

Adesso per favore qualcuno che se ne intende può spiegare in parole povere come è messa la Grecia in base a questi dati?

Sempre nella cacca , in quanto per rientrare dal debito e' necessario un avanzo primario, non una semplice riduzione del deficit. Resta inoltre completamente irrisolto il problema del deficit delle partite correnti con l'estero.

 

[tommy271]

Sempre nella cacca , in quanto per rientrare dal debito e' necessario un avanzo primario, non una semplice riduzione del deficit. Resta inoltre completamente irrisolto il problema del deficit delle partite correnti con l'estero.

L'avanzo primario arriverà anche quello.
Semprechè non ipotizziamo una riduzione delle uscite del 40% e un crollo del PIL del 20%.

 

[tommy271]

Crisi Grecia, socialisti contro i comunisti: “Cercano il morto”


Il vicepremier greco Theodoros Pangalos ha oggi accusato il Partito comunista (Kke) di ”cercare il morto” nel duro scontro che lo oppone al governo per piano di austerita’. In un’intervista al giornale di sinistra Ta Nea, Pangalos afferma che ”è chiaro che Papariga (la leader del Kke Aleka Papariga, n.d.r.) e l’irresponsabile e avventuristico gruppo dirigente comunista cercano il morto”. E li accusa di far lega con l’opposizione di centrodestra contro l’esecutivo socialista.
Gli risponde il Kke, che in una nota accusa Pangalos e gli altri socialisti di essere ”i nuovi Goebbels” e di essere ”pronti a qualsiasi provocazione ” contro il partito e il movimento popolare. Gli attacchi del governo contro il Kke, che guida la protesta contro l’austerity ed e’ accusato di ”irresponsabile estremismo”, si sono moltiplicate negli ultimi tempi, mentre i sondaggi mostrano che il partito comunista e’ in forte crescita, mentre lo stesso Pasok comincia a perdere consensi.
Nei giorni scorsi lo stesso premier Giorgio Papandreou aveva invitato Papariga, dopo che il sindacato comunista aveva bloccato il porto del Pireo lasciando migliaia di turisti a terra, a ”dare prova di responsabilita” di fronte alla grave crisi che attraversa il paese.


(Blitzquotidiano.it)

 

[tommy271]

A metà giornata spread/bund intorno a 775 pb.
Il minimo di oggi era già stato toccato venerdì scorso. Vediamo se in giornata stringono ulteriormente.

 

[Grisù]

L'avanzo primario arriverà anche quello.
Semprechè non ipotizziamo una riduzione delle uscite del 40% e un crollo del PIL del 20%.

C'è una minore spesa importante di alcuni miliardi di euro, l'aspetto del deficit import vs export sulla bilancia dei pagamenti resta comunque un aspetto centrale. Qualche dato aggiuntivo:

Greece’s Cash Deficit Sharply Lower

The Central Government cash deficit (net balance of the state budget including movements in public debt management accounts) in the January-June 2010 period decreased to EUR11,450 million from EUR19,685 million on a yearly basis, Bank of Greece said Monday.
During this period, the ordinary budget revenue increased to EUR23,203 mil, from EUR21,740 million last year.
Ordinary budget expenditure decreased to EUR30,145 million compared with 35,578 million in January-June 2009.

 

[Grisù]

EU Says Will Not Ask Greece For Additional Measures

The European Commission Monday denied rumors that Commissioner Olli Rehn will come to Greece in the end of July to ask for additional measures.
“I don’t think we are going to ask for additional measures,” spokesperson Amadeu Altafaj Tardio said at a regular news briefing.
He added that the austerity programme is being implemented as foreseen and there will be no changes to that.

 

[METHOS]

UPDATE 1-Greek finmin confident on deficit targets, risks remain

ATHENS, July 5 (Reuters) - Greece is confident it will meet its target to cut the budget deficit by 40 percent to 8.1 percent of economic output this year but risks remain on revenue growth targets, its finance minister said on Monday.
"We believe that we will reach and maybe exceed the target to reduce (the budget deficit) to 8.1 percent in 2010," Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou told a news conference.
Regarding Greece's target to grow revenues by about 12 percent this year, he said: "We are slightly under our targets but I would like to remind you that our budget targets referred to a more optimistic growth course, compared to the one included in the (EU/IMF) memorandum."
Papaconstantinou also said he saw the first signs that the forecast of a 4 percent gross domestic product (GDP) contraction this year was too pessimistic.
He said the state budget was within estimates in the first half of the year, with net budget revenue up 7.1 percent year-on-year.
"We are on the right path and the first results are already evident and they are a very important message mainly to Greek society and ... the Greek market as well as the international markets where we are looking forward to returning for funding the public debt, in 2011," he added.
Officials from the EU, IMF, and ECB will be in Greece Jul. 20-26 to conclude their first review of the country's implementation of an austerity plan agreed in return for a 110 billion euro ($148 billion) bailout.
Papaconstantinou said the government had no plans for new austerity measures, rejecting Greek media speculation that the country would be forced by international lenders to further belt-tightening.
"There is no way that there will be new measures, enough with this," he said. "We have a program that is being executed as planned and a little better than planned ... there is not one announcement by the EU, the ECB, the IMF that says otherwise." (Reporting by Lefteris Papadimas; Additional reporting by George Georgiopoulos, Renee Maltezou, Angeliki Koutantou; Writing by Ingrid Melander; Editing by Ruth Pitchford)