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g.ln

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CINA: BANCA CENTRALE VEDE SPAGNA E GRECIA ANCORA A RISCHIO

(ASCA-MarketNews) - Pechino, 9 set - La ripresa economica in Europa e' piu' robusta delle previsioni ma l'eurozona non e' ancora fuori dal tunnel.....

Il commissario De Gutch ha confermato che in giugno la Cina ha comprato titoli di stato di Madrid e di Atene.

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In Italiano ...

:ciao:Se le banche europee comprano greco, se la Cina compra greco, perchè le quotazioni sono così basse. Ma il mercato ufficiale lo facciamo noi quattro investitori con pochi scambi e il ns. panico? Come te lo spieghi Tommy?
Ciao, Giuseppe
 

tommy271

Forumer storico
:ciao:Se le banche europee comprano greco, se la Cina compra greco, perchè le quotazioni sono così basse. Ma il mercato ufficiale lo facciamo noi quattro investitori con pochi scambi e il ns. panico? Come te lo spieghi Tommy?
Ciao, Giuseppe

Come dice il Commissario UE il debito è stato acquistato in giugno.
Gli acquisti da parte BCE, sul secondario, sono praticamente fermi.
A quanto ci è dato sapere, il calo - iniziato ad agosto - è su volumi molto bassi. Si scommette (probabilmente) su una ripresa dei disordini sociali ...
Ora attendiamo, insieme ad una ripresa degli acquisti, le prossime aste dei Bot Greek. Qui, forse, ci sarà qualche schiarita.
 

sethi

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:ciao:Se le banche europee comprano greco, se la Cina compra greco, perchè le quotazioni sono così basse. Ma il mercato ufficiale lo facciamo noi quattro investitori con pochi scambi e il ns. panico? Come te lo spieghi Tommy?
Ciao, Giuseppe



Scusa l'intromissione...........
ci sono interessi politici ed economici molto forti in campo e ci sono grossi aggiustamenti nei portafogli dei diversi stati e nei portafogli dei gotha bancari............sappiamo chi acquista ma non sappiamo chi vende ....o quantomeno è probabile che abbiano sottoscritto delle emissioni che noi sui mercati ufficiali ancora non vediamo, per cui sui nostri mercati non vediamo effetti importanti ....ma è probabile che dove ci sono grosse transazioni questi effetti ci siano e siano imponenti ......un mio personale pensiero non suffragato da alcuna prova
 

Grisù

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CINA: BANCA CENTRALE VEDE SPAGNA E GRECIA ANCORA A RISCHIO

Il commissario De Gutch ha confermato che in giugno la Cina ha comprato titoli di stato di Madrid e di Atene.

Mi pare ne avessimo già parlato in passato ma se i volumi fossero quelli sotto descritti risulterebbero un importo abbastanza risibile...

SHANGHAI- China's presence is visible in Europe through its purchases of bonds as well as large scale investments, the European Union's trade chief said on Thursday.

"China's presence in Europe is visible across the board whether in China's recent purchase of several hundreds of millions of euros of government bonds in the euro zone, particularly Spain or Greece, or in other large-scale investments too, such as the acquisition of Volvo by the car maker Geely," European Trade Commissioner Karel De Gucht said.

Speaking at the Shanghai World Expo, he said he was confident Europe's salvage package for 860 billion euros ($1,097 billion), has been very effective in easing the sovereign debt crisis.
"I am quite confident that the euro is in good shape again."
The trade chief added that the euro zone bonds China had been buying from Spain and Greece were a good investment and would keep their value.
He estimated that China had spent around 420 million euros buying Spanish and Greek bonds, but could not confirm it.

"There is no risk at all to the Chinese treasury," he said.
 

tommy271

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Mi pare ne avessimo già parlato in passato ma se i volumi fossero quelli sotto descritti risulterebbero un importo abbastanza risibile...

SHANGHAI- China's presence is visible in Europe through its purchases of bonds as well as large scale investments, the European Union's trade chief said on Thursday.

"China's presence in Europe is visible across the board whether in China's recent purchase of several hundreds of millions of euros of government bonds in the euro zone, particularly Spain or Greece, or in other large-scale investments too, such as the acquisition of Volvo by the car maker Geely," European Trade Commissioner Karel De Gucht said.

Speaking at the Shanghai World Expo, he said he was confident Europe's salvage package for 860 billion euros ($1,097 billion), has been very effective in easing the sovereign debt crisis.
"I am quite confident that the euro is in good shape again."
The trade chief added that the euro zone bonds China had been buying from Spain and Greece were a good investment and would keep their value.
He estimated that China had spent around 420 million euros buying Spanish and Greek bonds, but could not confirm it.

"There is no risk at all to the Chinese treasury," he said.

Presumo di si ... dalla Cina potremmo aspettarci uno sforzo maggiore visti gli interessi in Grecia.
D'altra parte hanno interesse anche loro a tenere sotto controllo la situazione, prima che gli blocchino il porto ...
 

tommy271

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Athens Stocks Inch Up



Greek market posts mild fluctuations on Thursday.

“Everything seems to be moving around banking sector’s flagship strategic move and the speculation that this has brought about. Volatility will persist, while Hellenic Exchanges two day road show that will take place in London as of today could enhance volumes,” Marfin Analysis says in its morning report.

“With the banking sector being in the spotlight yesterday the General Index fell by 1.96% closing at 1.586,62 points after the announcement of National Bank of Greece to raise 2.8bn euros in order to bolster its capital. We anticipate volatility to remain today being accompanied by a positive reaction. National Bank of Greece could be considered a buying opportunity around the level of 9 euros. Technically 1.615 points is the main level of resistance,” Pegasus Securities says.

Across the board, the General Index gains 0.15% at 1,588.99 on a total turnover of 33.68 mil. euro.

Financials rise as much as 1.70%.

(Capital.gr)
 

tommy271

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Greece Says Bonds Now an ‘Opportunity’ as Budget Deficit Falls

September 09, 2010, 5:32 AM EDT

By Maria Petrakis
Sept. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Greek government bonds are no longer “something to fear” and the country is on track to meet its budget goals for this year, said Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou.
“We feel confident that given where we are at the moment there won’t be any problem in hitting the target” for cutting the deficit, Papaconstantinou said in an interview in Athens yesterday. That will help secure Greece’s return to markets next year and convince investors that its bonds “are now becoming an opportunity rather than something to fear,” he said.

Fund managers are still reluctant to buy Greek debt after the country was forced to turn to the European Union and the International Monetary Fund for a bailout earlier this year. The extra yield that they demand to hold Greek 10-year bonds compared with German bunds rose as high as 957 basis points yesterday, 16 points short of the record touched on May 7.
Papaconstantinou plans the first in a series of meetings with investors in Europe next week to brief them on Greece’s progress. Fund managers dumped Greek bonds after the government last year announced a budget shortfall worth 13.6 percent of gross domestic product, the second highest in the EU.
Greece plans to cut the deficit to 8.1 percent of GDP this year and 7.6 percent in 2011.
The country faces a second year of recession as Prime Minister George Papandreou’s government cuts wages and raises taxes to satisfy the terms of the 110 billion-euro ($126 billion) in emergency loans from the EU and the IMF.

Wage Cuts

Cuts in wages, pensions and investment have compensated for a lag in government income, Papaconstantinou said. Revenue collection will improve by the end of the year, he said. The central government deficit shrank 40 percent in the seven months to July.
Yields for Greek bonds remain high, as they do for all European countries, because the market is waiting to see whether the country will stay the course on deficit cuts, he said. Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, the second largest in the world, says it’s bought Greek securities and doesn’t expect the country to restructure its debt.

The spreads on Irish and Portuguese bonds today were 371 basis points and 353 basis points respectively.
Greece plans to sell bills this month and Papaconstantinou said it’s likely the finance ministry will opt for three-month and six-month securities rather than 12-month bills.
“There’s no need to do a longer period when you’re not happy with the interest rates available,” said Papaconstantinou.
Greece’s recession this year may be less severe than the 4 percent contraction forecast in May, Papaconstantinou said. With budget cuts on track, that will help lead to “a change of setting for the international market, a whole new environment.”

Austerity

Some austerity policies taken this year will spill over into 2011, meaning fewer new measures will be needed, he said.
Papaconstantinou said not all the measures are set in stone. In a bid to shore up growth, he would consider an alternative to a sales-tax increase on some goods that was slated to raise 1 billion euros for next year’s budget. Alternative steps would need to be vetted by the officials from the EU, IMF and European Central Bank, dubbed the troika.
“We don’t want to take any measures which will be a further drag on growth,” he said. “If we can find and agree also with the troika good alternatives we will go with them. It’s a question of mix of instruments, not of changing the targets. The targets remain the same.”

Faster Inflation

Wage cuts and tax increases have damped spending and boosted inflation. Gross domestic product in the second quarter shrank 1.8 percent from the first quarter, when it fell 0.8 percent, the Athens-based Hellenic Statistical Authority said yesterday. From a year earlier, GDP declined 3.7 percent, more than an original 3.5 percent forecast on Aug. 12.
The government forecast a contraction of 2.6 percent in 2011 before a return to growth in the following year.
Tax increases on fuel, alcohol and tobacco have boosted the inflation rate to a 13-year high. The August rate held at 5.5 percent, the same as July and the most since Greece adopted the euro in 2001, the statistics authority said Sept. 7.
Greece’s unemployment rate climbed to 12 percent in May, according to the latest data from the agency.

Papaconstantinou said the brunt of the austerity measures will be felt in the third quarter. Structural reforms such as changes to the pension, labor and taxation systems as well as budget planning will also start to kick in, he said.
He ruled out a debt restructuring, saying that more and more analysts are coming to the opinion that it won’t happen and that such a step would be “absolutely catastrophic.”

Papaconstantinou also Greece is overhauling the country’s method of producing statistics after understated deficit figures last year sparked Europe’s sovereign debt crisis. Greece’s last government was criticized for concealing budget shortfalls through swaps and other financial instruments.
“The statistics now reflect the guarantees which have been called, they reflect swaps that were not reflected and there is a clear and complete break with past practices,” he said.
 

tommy271

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ECB: Still Unclear If Calmer Markets Here To Stay

First Published Thursday, 9 September 2010 10:41 am


(Adds detail, background)


By Geoffrey T. Smith
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES



FRANKFURT -(Dow Jones)- Improved money market conditions in the euro zone over the summer haven't made up for the disruption caused by the financial crisis and may not last, the European Central Bank said Thursday.
"The coming months will clarify whether the resumption of (interbank) lending in July...heralds a more sustained return to normality," the ECB said in its monthly report for September.
ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet warned again last week that the path back to normality could be long and hard, after extending the bank's anti-crisis measures on unlimited liquidity provision for up to three months at a time until the end of the year.
Many analysts expect it to be extended further into 2011, as a slowdown in the global economy revives market concerns about the ability of some euro zone states to support their debt burdens.
The ECB said that the crisis had interrupted a process of integration that had gone on in the first nine years of the euro's life.
"The integration of euro area money markets, which was well advanced prior to the onset of the financial market turmoil, has been challenged, at least temporarily, as banks seem to have preferred to confine their interbank lending to within their own national borders," the ECB said.
As the crisis intensified in 2009, banks even cut their lending to other banks in their own countries, forcing the ECB to take an increasingly active role in "intermediating" the flow of money.
The improvement in the economy and the gradual return of confidence has allowed the central bank to withdraw from that role somewhat this year. Its overall lending to the banking system has fallen by a third from its June peak, while the hoarding of liquidity in the ECB's 0.25% deposit facility has fallen by over two-thirds.
However, the aggregated data hide a worrying trend. Banks in member states worst affected by bursting credit bubbles or by public debt levels are becoming more dependent on the ECB, rather than less so.
Before the crisis, the geographical breakdown of its lending roughly reflected the economic weight of the euro zone's national economies. However, since the crisis, its lending has become more and more skewed to banks from the region's weaker economies.
Banks from Greece, Spain, Portugal and Ireland accounted for only 26% of the ECB's total lending at the start of 2009, but by July that had risen to almost 60% although they account for only 18% of euro-area gross domestic product.
The ECB said a "subset" of banks had benefited from the increased willingness of banks to lend to each other in July, but warned that the market's overall return to normality in the wake of the financial crisis has been "staggered and volatile".
 

ferdo

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anche le ladybar pattayane adorano i norvegesi: pare infatti che tra tutti farang siano in assoluto i piu' gonzi e facili da abbindolare :lol:

leggendo tra le righe:
- ecco perchè comprano titoli greci, gonzi e facili da abbindolare !!!
- di professione faccio il call boy (ed i proventi li investo qui)
:lol::lol::lol:
 
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