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IL MARATONETA

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In linea di massima la questione rimane sempre quella della "ristrutturazione" o meno del debito.
Poco importa se la copertura della troika è sin verso il 2013.
Se la Grecia fosse costretta a ristrutturare lo potremmo intuire entro la fine dell'estate.
Nel caso, non aspetterà il 2013 ma lo farà nel 2012. Non ha senso continuare pagare cedole e rimborsi per un altro anno ...
Tommy, più seguo le vicende greche e più mi sto convincendo che d'ora in poi i giorni decisivi per le sorti dei nostri titoli non saranno tanto quelli delle riunioni dei capi di stato, che pur rivestendo grande importanza, abbiamo visto, ultimamente hanno lasciato il tempo che trovano, quanto quelli in cui verranno decise le misure da adottare nel 2011, compensative al deficit 2010, la stesura del piano 2012-2015 e il piano relativo alle privatizzazioni.
Invito pertanto i nostri forumisti a seguire con grande scrupolosità i suggerimenti che verranno dalla Troika e le misure adottate dal governo greco nel pacchetto sulla manovra economica, che sembra dovrebbe essere varato verso metà mese, perchè da qui' potrebbero scaturire utili indicazioni per il prosieguo dell'operatività.
 
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tommy271

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Tommy, più seguo le vicende greche e più mi sto convincendo che d'ora in poi i giorni decisivi per le sorti dei nostri titoli non saranno tanto quelli delle riunioni dei capi di stato, che pur rivestendo grande importanza, abbiamo visto, ultimamente hanno lasciato il tempo che trovano, quanto quelli in cui verranno decise le misure da adottare nel 2011, compensative al deficit 2010, la stesura del piano 2012-2015 e il piano relativo alle privatizzazioni.
Invito pertanto i nostri forumisti a seguire con grande scrupolosità i suggerimenti che verranno dalla Troika e le misure adottate dal governo greco nel pacchetto sulla manovra economica, che sembra dovrebbe essere varato verso metà mese, perchè da qui' potrebbero scaturire utili indicazioni per il prosieguo dell'operatività.

Le misure di rientro dal deficit/Pil per il 2010 credo che le metteranno in opera, così pure il Piano di Privatizzazioni ma avrà un impatto diluito negli anni (e durante il corso degli anni ne vedremo l'indirizzo attuativo).
Per rientrare dal debito non c'è altra soluzione che un buy-back oppure un piano di riacquisto con concambio con titoli EFSF.
Ma queste soluzioni, le più importanti, potranno arrivare solo dalle riunioni tra Capi di Stato UE/BCE/FMI.
Insomma da tutto quello che sta sopra la Grecia.
Poi con un'economia riformata e con meno debiti sulle spalle la Grecia potrà ripartire alla grande.
 

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Deutsche Bank Reduces Greek Banks’ Target-Prices



Deutsche Bank remains negative on Greek banks after the announcement of their 2010 financial results, and proceeds with the decrease of the target-prices for the most of them, according to a report.

Q4 results marked a tough year. DB expects 2011 to be the same or perhaps worse if banks are forced to disengage from the ECB in an aggressive manner, while a lot will depend on the sovereign. The bank sees more downside than upside risks and maintains its cautious stance.

It expects banks to maintain their defensive stance through further loan deleveraging and cost-cutting. “We cannot exclude M&A as a means to improve liquidity and achieve cost synergies, but so far there have been two failed attempts”, said Deutsche Bank.

By extending the maturity of the rescue package and reducing the interest rate charged, the European Commission offered Greece some further breathing space. It is still up to the Greek government to regain the trust of debt markets by consolidating its finances and selling assets to retire old debt, said DB.

“As a result, both the 2011 budget and the E50bn (2011-15) privatization program are important catalysts”, it added.

Downside risks include a haircut on Greek debt, aggressive de-leveraging, big deposit outflows and higher NPLs. Upside risks relate primarily to better-than-expected fiscal performance of the sovereign.

Deutsche Bank decrease the target-price of Alpha Bank to €4.5 from €5.3, Piraeus’s to €1.3 from €1.6, Marfin’s to €0.4 from €1.6, while the target-price of Bank of Cyprus remains unchanged at €3.3 and increases ATEbank to €0.4 from €0.3.

(capital.gr)
 

IL MARATONETA

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Dato che sui TDS greci ne dovresti sapere più del loro ministro delle finanze, saresti tanto gentile, nel caso in cui cambiassi idea, di suonare l'allarme?
:bow::benedizione::barella:
Bonacieux, come osi dubitare, ricordati che Tommy è il capitano e che come tale, in caso di naufragio, vorrà essere l'ultimo ad abbandonare la nave...
 
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tommy271

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La Borsa di Atene chiude oggi finalmente in positivo, dopo una serie di giornate con il segno meno.
Un buon recupero giornaliero che rasserena un pò gli animi: + 2,63% a 1528 punti.

Sempre lievemente positivi i nostri spread che, pur essendo in trading range stabile, guadagnano qualche punto. Attualmente intorno a 941 pb.
 

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Greece Parl President: No Plans To Restructure Greek Debt

By Market News International || April 6, 2011 at 13:55 GMT


BERLIN (MNI) – Greece has no plans to restructure its sovereign
debt and is committed to fulfilling its commitments towards its
creditors, Greek parliamentary president Philippos Petsalnikos said
Wednesday.
I can categorically rule out that there will be a restructuring or
a haircut,” Petsalnikos told the European affairs committee of the
German parliament. “We are committed to sticking to our commitments
towards our creditors,” he stressed.

“We will continue on our path to reduce the deficit,” the Greek
politician vowed. “This way we will be able to get out of our bad
situation, we are determined to win this bet.
 

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Greek Debt Restructuring Not An Option for Now, Germany Says

April 06, 2011, 10:13 AM EDT

By Tony Czuczka
April 6 (Bloomberg) -- Germany currently doesn’t see any way for Greece to restructure its debt, Steffen Seibert, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman, said today. Europe’s rescue program for Greece is helping the country repay its debt, Seibert said at a news briefing in Berlin.
Current European instruments don’t have provisions for debt restructuring, he said. The European Union’s permanent rescue system for debt-strapped euro countries, due to start mid-2013, will allow for restructuring that includes the involvement of private creditors, Seibert said.


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Una smentita per il presente che però non allontana i dubbi per il 2013 ...
 

tommy271

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Talk of restructuring lingers



EU says not aware of such discussions; report claims that Plan B is being prepared
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The European Union’s executive arm is not aware of any talks concerning Greek debt restructuring, European Commission spokesman Amadeu Altafaj said on Wednesday.
The Financial Times Deutschland reported yesterday that some eurozone governments are concerned that Greece will not be able to refinance itself and may have to restructure its debt.
"We are not aware of any such discussions,» Altafaj told reporters.
"The Commission has asked the Greek government to respect its obligations in terms of debt servicing, and the system should now allow the Greek economy to sort out its budget position, to reform its economy to make it more competitive, to restore market confidence to allow it come back to the market as quickly as possible with a reasonable rate of interest,» he said.
"We... exclude the scenario that you allude to, because in agreement with all eurozone members and the IMF and the ECB we have set up an action plan for dealing with [Greece],» Altafaj said.
"Quarter after quarter the Greek authorities have been evaluated in how they are implementing the program and each evaluation has been positive,» he said. «It is normal that there are some difficulties, but Greece is on the right track."
In a story published Wednesday, the financial daily reported that representatives of several eurozone governments told the paper that a restructuring could no longer be ruled out, without naming its sources or the countries involved.
"An extension and top-up of the aid package would not be politically possible. Then, consequences would have to be drawn,” the paper quoted a source in the finance ministry of a large eurozone country as saying.
It also quoted an adviser to the leader of an EU state as saying, “We must have a Plan B ready” for the possibility Greece requires more financial assistance.
Greek and European officials have long insisted that Greece can recover without restructuring and that even discussing a restructuring now would be counterproductive as it would damage banks across Europe and cause panic in markets.
Greek government spokesman Giorgos Petalotis repeated on Wednesday that Athens was not looking into restructuring its massive debt pile.
“Some people think that a restructuring means that creditors just give away debts... but a restructuring would hurt all of us,” he told Skai Radio.
On Saturday, the International Monetary Fund denied a report in German news magazine Der Spiegel that it was privately pressing Greece to restructure its debt.






ekathimerini.com , Wednesday April 6, 2011 (17:03)
 
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