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tommy271

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Zona euro, servono riforme senza sosta per paesi periferia - Fmi
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Reuters - 12/05/2011 09:31:24

Zona euro, servono riforme senza sosta per paesi periferia - Fmi

giovedì 12 maggio 2011 09:48






FRANCOFORTE, 12 maggio (Reuters) - I membri della periferia della zona euro devono essere "instancabili" nel loro sforzo di riforma per prevenire che la crisi del debito di allarghi ad altre economie.
Lo sostiene il Fondo monetario internazionale che, nel suo rapporto sull'economia europea, suggerisce alla Banca centrale europea di non alzare i tassi stabili.
 

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Grecia,impossibili nuovi aiuti senza condizioni chiare-Schaeuble
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Reuters - 12/05/2011 09:55:04
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BERLINO, 12 maggio (Reuters) - Il ministro delle Finanze tedesco Wolfang Schaeuble in un discorso al Bundestag ha detto che la Grecia affronterà una situazione considerevolemente problematica.

Schaeuble ha anche affermato che la Germania prenderà posizione in merito ad ulteriori aiuti alla Grecia solo dopo che le ispezioni dei funzionari del Fondo Monetario Internazionale saranno completate.

Il titolare del ministero delle Finanze tedesco ha aggiunto che se verrà dimostrato che la Grecia non è in grado di rientrare nei mercati finanziari come previsto, dovrà fornire delle risposte e che la Germania non approverà un ulteriore tranche di aiuti senza che vengano stabilite precise condizioni.

Riguardo il Portogallo, Schaeuble ha precisato che la Germania approverà il pacchetto di aiuti da 78 miliardi di euro che l'Unione Europea e il Fondo Monetario Internazionale hanno messo a punto per Lisbona.

"Sulla scorta del programma di riforme, è giusto e giustificabile rendere disponibile un aiuto finanziario fino a 78 miliardi di euro e rendere possibile per il Portogallo un ritorno nei mercati finanziari entro un adeguato intervallo temporale" ha detto il ministro.
 

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Forex focus: watch out for Greece

Beware Greeks bearing bonds is the message from across the Channel at the moment.




By Liz Phillips 9:26AM BST 11 May 2011


It’s looking increasingly likely that Greece – and therefore the European Central Bank (ECB) – will have to face crippling costs to restructure its debt, with ratings agency Standard & Poor (S&P) downgrading Greece from BB- to B. The worrying factor is that Greek banks hold predominantly Greek government bonds.

As Simon Smith, chief economist of FxPro says: “Greece is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Greek banks will take the biggest hit from any restructuring. In turn, the ECB – Greek banks having borrowed €94 billion from it – will take a hit on a major restructuring.

“S&P reckon you need to lop 30 to 50 per cent off the Greek debt pile just to pull Greece out of the current nose-dive. In hair-dressing terms, that’s a pretty severe hair-cut.

“There is a sense that Europe’s response to the debt crisis is now verging on the shambolic.”

Greece was the first nation to need a hand-out last time. History could be repeated with Ireland and Portugal not far behind.



As Caxton FX’s Richard Driver says: “Greek debt levels are unsustainable. They will certainly need more support of some sort. It’s a matter of when and in what form, not if, Greece receives help.”
In recent weeks the euro has shown remarkable resilience in shrugging off any bad news. The reasons were that it is being propped up by rich Asian friends buying the currency as an alternative to the US dollar, its relatively high interest rates and the strength of Germany’s economy under-pinning the single currency.
But finally everyone seems to be taking notice of the extent of the debt crisis.
“The worm has started to turn,” comments Jeremy Cook, chief economist at World First. “And, like a patient lying in a hospital bed with the painkillers wearing off, the markets are starting to take more and more notice of the great big European debt problem.
“The rebound in the euro’s fortunes over the past week has been short and sharp. It’s been the kind of movement which suggests that the market is scared, and they are dumping it with very little care for the consequences.”
With the spotlight once again on how vulnerable the Eurozone really is, the future for the area looks bleak.
As Chris Towner, director of FX Advisory Services at HiFX notes: “The euro looks vulnerable from a number of angles. The most obvious one is the suffering peripheral economies for whom the rating agencies continue to circle in the air like birds of prey diving in with downgrades.”
He also points out the shaky political will from stronger nations to continue to fund the weaker ones – the Finnish electorate is revolting against hand-outs and Germany’s Angela Merkel is struggling to maintain support politically because of her helpful attitude to the weaker peripheral countries.
Her problems will only get worse if Germany’s export trade is knocked by higher wage and energy costs and a strong euro.
Mr Towner adds: “It is also important to add that the sovereign debt crisis does not need to spread any further into Spain or Italy. If it were to spread into these economies then the sovereign debt crisis would become even more alarming; however the point here is that the alert is already bright red due to Greece, Ireland and more recently Portugal.”
ECB President Jean Claude-Trichet didn’t help either by suddenly announcing at the end of last week that a further rate rise was not ear-marked for the next month or so, causing a sell-off of the single currency. The euro is now on the back foot.
And that wasn’t the only bad news.
“On Friday rumours swept the currency markets that an emergency meeting could see Greece pull out of the euro. This heaped more pressure on the euro and it has dropped by nearly six cents in just over three trading days,” says Mark O'Sullivan, group head of dealing and products at Currencies Direct.
“The great thing about the ECB and the euro politicians is that they continue to peddle the same story: that the countries that had sought a bail-out - Greece, Portugal and Ireland - didn’t really have that much effect when it came to total Eurozone GDP.
“This is true, but what they failed to acknowledge is the 'iceberg effect' these countries have. The tip of the iceberg is their total input to Eurozone GDP, but under the water the debt they owe is huge, to the point that a default from all three of these nations would cause a global implosion.
“To add even more uncertainty, the newly elected Finnish government have come out and publically stated that Eurozone bail-outs are nothing more than a 'Ponzi scheme', with taxpayer’s money being used to fund countries that have no real means to pay off their debts and need a constant source of bail-outs just to meet their on-going debt requirements.
“The elephant in the room is Spain and Italy. Both have different problems and day by day the yields the market demand to lend to these nations continue to rise. So the PIGS, who have been ridiculed by their northern neighbours for poor fiscal policy, have suddenly pulled a gun from under the table and held it to their heads, threatening to pull the trigger unless they get some kind of debt forgiveness.”
And where does all this leave sterling – within the EU but not in the euro club? Could the pound be seen as an alternative?
HiFX’s Chris Towner thinks so. “Sterling looks far more attractive as an alternative. The UK has of course its own issues, but at least these issues are being addressed, and at least we have a currency that weakens in reaction to a crisis rather than strengthens.”
 

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  • May 10, 2011, 12:55 PM ET
A Greek Debt Scoresheet



By Charles Forelle (NY Times)


Get ready, sports fans. The next few weeks and months will be packed with Greek debt action. We present you, our Loyal Readers, with a handy scoresheet. Print it out and post it on your wall.
The Problem: The €110 billion EU-IMF bailout is not enough money for Greece. It never was. The original bailout math in May 2010 showed Greece would need €53.2 billion to cover deficits, €88.3 billion to repay existing long-term debt and €10 billion to prop up banks through mid-2013. That’s €151.5 billion. To plug the hole, the EU presumed Greece would borrow more than €40 billion from private markets.
The numbers have only gotten worse. In the most recent analysis, the EU added €4.9 billion to the deficits that will need to be financed. The current estimate is €44.1 billion in long-term borrowing to fill the gap, of which €26.7 billion should come in 2012. Almost no one believes Greece will be able to raise that much money; currently, markets want more than 15% to lend to Greece, and S&P rates its bonds deep in junk territory.
There’s not much time: The Day of Reckoning is likely March 20, 2012, when Greece must pay back a €14.4 billion bond.
The Solutions: There are at least four possible options.
1.) Modify, wait and hope. Make some tweaks to Greece’s bailout package and hope they are enough–or close enough–to give Greece more time to regain market confidence. What tweaks could be made?

  • Lowering the interest rate on Greece’s bailout loans. Greece, after a rate cut, will now pay around 4.5% for its euro-zone loans (the IMF rate can’t realistically be touched). At the beginning of 2012, Greece will have around €57 billion in euro-zone bailout loans outstanding. If the euro-zone countries were willing to make the loans completely interest-free, a huge step, Greece would save just €2.5 billion in 2012.
  • Giving Greece more time to pay back the bailout loans. This is already in the works. But it will have no effect on 2012, since no bailout loans come due in 2012. (Some €10 billion will be due in 2013.)
  • Plowing ahead with privatization. There are ambitious plans to realize €50 billion from privatization of state assets by 2015. But how much could be realized in the coming months? Hard to say, but likely not very much.
The figure of €26.7 billion in required new borrowing in 2012 could probably be fudged a bit by speeding up bailout-loan disbursements. But the total planned bailout disbursements in 2013 are €8 billion.
Eliminating interest entirely and pulling all the 2013 disbursements into 2012 would close the gap by €10.5 billion–not even halfway. Barring a massive amount of very fast privatization, this route looks impossibly difficult to achieve by March 20.
(A wild card: Short-term debt. We’ve excluded it from our calculations, on the theory that it is cashed out and reissued in a continuous flow mostly through local banks. The EU assumes that too. It’s not a terrible assumption, given that the Greek banks are relatively healthy–at least compared to their Irish counterparts. But Greece could close the gap a bit by issuing somewhat more short-term debt than it redeems each year. The EU’s revised bailout calculations actually do this; net short-term debt issuance over the period of the bailout in May 2010 was estimated at €1.1 billion; in the most recent update, it is €5.7 billion. Perhaps this could be stretched further? But there’s surely a limit.)
2.) Give Greece more money. The EU’s temporary bailout fund, the EFSF, could just write a check. That would plug the gap very quickly. Of course, voters in Germany, Finland, the Netherlands and elsewhere would not be happy. And it wouldn’t do anything to change the fundamental upward direction of Greece’s debt pile. Moreover, some €35 billion in long-term debt is due to be paid back in 2012. So the taxpayers of euro-zone countries would be borrowing money to lend to Greece, a very risky credit, so that it could pay back other borrowers (i.e., private banks) in full. Not likely to be politically popular.
3.) Demand that private creditors hold off on getting theirs. Greece could be told to offer a “voluntary exchange” to its private creditors, whereby they turn in their maturing bonds for new ones that are repaid later. There’s a risk: If not enough borrowers sign up for the deal, the voluntary exchange could quickly become involuntary, which is far messier. Plus, just putting off repayments doesn’t reduce Greece’s total debt burden–nor its mounting interest burden. Last year, interest payments ate up 14% of government revenue.
Some quick arithmetic suggests that the EU might be able to scrape by without giving Greece more money in 2012, if all or most of the long-term bondholders whose debt comes due that year (holding about €35 billion) agree to postpone repayment.
But it’s a tight squeeze: Telling existing bondholders that there won’t be any fresh financing makes them less likely to agree voluntarily to suspend repayment. If there isn’t enough interest, the EU will have to write another check.
4.) Take the “haircuts” now. Most economists believe Greece won’t be able to repay its €350 billion (and growing) debt. Getting it under control thus requires forcing private investors (and possibly the public lenders) to accept that they won’t get fully paid back–the dreaded “haircut.” If it is inevitable, doing it sooner rather than later limits the impact on public lenders, and thus taxpayers. But no one knows exactly what this step would do to the banks that lent to Greece, and by extension the broader European banking system.
But even this option will almost certainly mean Greece’s needing more bailout money. A haircut will bar it from private markets for a while. It’ll need public money as long as it’s still running deficits.
 

tommy271

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Grecia,impossibili nuovi aiuti senza condizioni chiare-Schaeuble
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Reuters - 12/05/2011 09:55:04
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BERLINO, 12 maggio (Reuters) - Il ministro delle Finanze tedesco Wolfang Schaeuble in un discorso al Bundestag ha detto che la Grecia affronterà una situazione considerevolemente problematica.

Schaeuble ha anche affermato che la Germania prenderà posizione in merito ad ulteriori aiuti alla Grecia solo dopo che le ispezioni dei funzionari del Fondo Monetario Internazionale saranno completate.

Il titolare del ministero delle Finanze tedesco ha aggiunto che se verrà dimostrato che la Grecia non è in grado di rientrare nei mercati finanziari come previsto, dovrà fornire delle risposte e che la Germania non approverà un ulteriore tranche di aiuti senza che vengano stabilite precise condizioni.

Riguardo il Portogallo, Schaeuble ha precisato che la Germania approverà il pacchetto di aiuti da 78 miliardi di euro che l'Unione Europea e il Fondo Monetario Internazionale hanno messo a punto per Lisbona.

"Sulla scorta del programma di riforme, è giusto e giustificabile rendere disponibile un aiuto finanziario fino a 78 miliardi di euro e rendere possibile per il Portogallo un ritorno nei mercati finanziari entro un adeguato intervallo temporale" ha detto il ministro.

Anche se è poco chiaro, mi sembra che Schaeuble apra alla Grecia.
Le condizioni "chiare" saranno le garanzie sulle privatizzazioni ... ma di questo ne avranno già discusso.
 

IlPorcospino

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e il porcospino che opinione ha del sondaggio?.....

Il sondaggio è stata una cosa interessante: io mi sono iscritto tra gli irriducibili ottimisti.
Però rimango vigile cercando di ragionare al di là delle notizie giornaliere che vengono lanciate sui mezzi d'informazione al fine di infuenzare i mercati. Mi sembra -- sono molto prudente perchè ignorante -- che se la politica della BCE cambierà privilegiando il rigore e sacrificando lo sviluppo (di cui non hanno beneficiato ancora i periferici), magari sotto la pressione dello spettro dell'inflazione, la soluzione politica dovrà fare i conti con il consenso (che i politici non possono ignorare in regimi democratici).
La caduta del consenso e il mancato sviluppo cambierebbero la mia opinione riguardo al sondaggio.
 

tommy271

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Greek Restructuring Would Be a Mistake: Ackermann

By Elena Logutenkova and Aaron Kirchfeld - May 12, 2011 9:43 AM GMT+0200 Thu May 12 07:43:35 GMT 2011

Deutsche Bank AG (DBK) Chief Executive Officer Josef Ackermann said Greek debt won’t be restructured as it would be a “huge mistake” that could risk contagion.
“The losses in many areas would be too high and could provoke a contagion impact,” Ackermann said in an interview on the sidelines of a conference in St. Gallen, Switzerland, today. “They have to increase the package for the next two years in order to cope with these challenges, there is no other solution.”
European Central Bank officials have intensified their opposition to a restructuring or default and European finance chiefs held an unscheduled meeting in Luxembourg on May 6 and said Greece needs “a further adjustment program” on top of its existing 110 billion-euro ($156 billion) rescue package. European banks have $130 billion in exposure to the southern European country, according to Credit Suisse Group AG strategist Andrew Garthwaite.
Deutsche Bank, Germany’s biggest lender, had net sovereign exposure to Greece of 1.6 billion euros at the end of last year, it said in March. German banks’ claims against Greek borrowers fell to $34 billion in the final quarter of 2010 from more than $40 billion, Bank for International Settlements statistics show.
Ackermann’s comments echoed warnings by the EU that a restructuring of Greece’s sovereign debt would have “devastating implications” for the country and the euro area as a whole.



`Credit Crunch'

A debt restructuring in Greece would have major consequences on the soundness of the banking sector in Greece as well as on any banks having exposure to Greek securities,” EU Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn said earlier this week at the European Parliament in Strasbourg, France. “Such a major banking crisis would lead to a massive credit crunch,” Rehn said, adding that “the contraction of the economy would be unprecedented in Greece.”
Greece’s debt “will not be restructured,” Ackermann said today. “It would be a huge mistake to restructure it now.”
The country should be given time to “do what they need to do,” Ackermann said. “And we can talk about it in three year’s time.”



(Bloomberg)


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Sempre sulle dichiarazioni di Ackermann.
 

tommy271

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Grecia,per Borges (Fmi) no soluzione miracolosa ristrutturazione

giovedì 12 maggio 2011 10:09




MILANO, 12 maggio (Reuters) - Il direttore dello European Department del Fondo monetario, Antonio Borges, è tra coloro che ritengono che non esista una soluzione miracolosa per la ristrutturazione della Grecia.
"Possiamo sempre rivedere i programmi in base ai progressi fatti", ha detto, aggiungendo che il paese ha bisogno di fare un passo alla volta in base alle revisioni trimestrali e, secondo gli ultimi dati di febbraio la Grecia era sulla buona strada.
Borges non sa tuttavia quale sarà la risposta della prossima revisione che sarà conclusa a fine giugno.
 
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