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28 GIUGNO voto parlamento greco misure di austerity
questi fanno il gioco delle tre carte ummmmm
prima gli aiuti e poi si vedràààà
 
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Dutch Fin Min: Not Decided Yet If Will Give Greece More Support



AMSTERDAM (Dow Jones)--The Netherlands hasn't decided yet if it will give Greece more support beyond the EUR110 billion package it received last year, Finance Minister Jan Kees de Jager said Tuesday.
"There is no clarity yet on the exact size of the additional financing that will be required to cover (Greece's) financing gap. This is partly dependent on the involvement of the private sector," De Jager said in a letter to Parliament.
De Jager added that he expects to be able to give more detail in the run-up to the euro-zone summit on June 20. "I would like to stress that the Netherlands currently hasn't committed itself in any way to something that stretches beyond the program that was agreed with Greece in May 2010," De Jager added.
 
Greece sees austerity vote by end-June, tax cuts later


By Lefteris Papadimas
ATHENS | Tue Jun 7, 2011 3:58am EDT



ATHENS (Reuters) - The Greek government expects parliament to vote on its medium-term austerity plan, a condition of a new international bailout, by the end of June, a senior government official said on Tuesday.
A second official poured cold water on any idea of a referendum on the austerity plan, and repeated government assurances that it would not seek early elections despite daily protests against yet more budget cuts.
The government also planned to cut corporate tax -- a demand of the conservative opposition -- and reduce value-added tax from 2012, the first official said, asking not be named.
However, these measures would not be part of the medium-term economic plan, he told reporters after a marathon cabinet meeting which began on Monday but carried on into Tuesday.
"Parliament will vote on the medium-term plan by the end of-June. It will be voted on as a single article," he told reporters.
Dissenters within the ruling PASOK party have demanded that each part of the plan, which includes 6.4 billion euros in new austerity steps this year and accelerated sales of state assets to cut the budget deficit, be handled in separate votes.
Voting on the plan as a single package would prevent the doubters from rejecting individual measures such as tax increases or sales of state assets.
The official signaled that the government had offered a concession to the opposition New Democracy party, which has demanded a corporate tax cut to stimulate the economy in return for its support for the latest austerity drive.
"In September, there will be a new tax law lowering VAT and corporate tax rates from 2012. The law will be fiscally neutral," he said, without providing details.
The European Union has called on all leading Greek parties to forge a consensus on the medium plan, which covers a period beyond the next scheduled elections in 2013. Athens agreed on Friday with the EU and IMF on a new bailout to replace the original 110 billion euro rescue agreed a year ago.
Two senior government officials also said the government was not planning any referendum on austerity, even though Prime Minister George Papandreou said on Monday that he was open to studying legislation allowing such votes.
Greece already has such an article in the constitution, and it was not clear whether he was referring to this, or the possibility of amended or new legislation.
"The government is not considering holding a referendum or early elections," said the second official.
 
Ora le agenzie di rating cominciano a remare contro e a cavillare sul fatto che un'adesione volontaria delle banche potrebbe però avere elementi coercitivi impliciti nel timore di conseguenze ancora più avverse se rifiutano.
Tra l'altro non capisco perchè l'originale accordo di Vienna con i debiti di alcuni paesi dell'Est non implicasse il medesimo presupposto.
Va da se che in quel caso le banche più esposte si saranno sedute intorno a un tavolo consentendo di spostare più avanti le maturity, altrimenti non c'era soluzione.


Premesso che sono fortemente favorevole ad una operazione stile "iniziativa di Vienna", la differenza tra l'originale e la Grecia è il tipo di investimento. Nel caso dei paesi dell'est le banche (o meglio, le sussidiarie) avevano investito direttamente in quei paesi "via capitale". Se avessero smesso di finanziarli sarebbero fallite e avrebbero perso sia il capitale sia i soldi prestati. Avevano investimenti diretti nel paese. Nel caso della Grecia non c'è questo, non c'è investimento, e a guardar bene nemmeno incentivo in quanto si potrebbe prendere i titoli sul secondario a tassi molto più favorevoli invece di rollare il vecchio. A meno che una istituzione finanziaria non abbia forti investimenti diretti, tali che con il rollaggio porti ad una situazione realmente miglior (miglior ambiente economico per gli investimenti, meno burocrazia, più libertà, coinvolgimento nelle privatizzazioni ecc) non vi sarebbe nessun presupposto di investimento ma solo ricatto.
 
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Inizieranno a discutere ... poi si andrà al voto.
Sempre che non ci sia un ripensamento "strategico".
Solitamente, nelle democrazie, il Governo propone e poi il Parlamento approva o respinge.

Ok....allora si va al fine settimana.....ma il 28 giugno che centra allora :-?

Con sta politica non ne vado più fuori :D
 
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