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giub
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La Lagarde in India ha detto che si farà il possibile per far tornare sui mercati la Grecia già dall'anno prossimo, ma vi sembra credibile e fattibile ?
visto che siamo sul grottesco....dipende da che mercato si riferisse...magari si riferiva al mercato delle donnine di gaudente, che da quando la Grecia è entrata nell'Euro erano diventate troppo costose
Oppure il ritorno allo scambio sul mercato rionale di Dracme x olive....
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Umile contadino
Se Maratoneta aggiornasse ora il suo sondaggio credo ci sarebbero diversi cambi di opinione e indovinate verso quale view ?visto che siamo sul grottesco....dipende da che mercato si riferisse...magari si riferiva al mercato delle donnine di gaudente, che da quando la Grecia è entrata nell'Euro erano diventate troppo costose
Oppure il ritorno allo scambio sul mercato rionale di Dracme x olive....
tommy271
Forumer storico
Mid-Term Package Developments Weigh On ASE
The intra-government disagreements and intraparty disputes on the new medium-term program intensify concern in the market and trigger fresh pressures on the Athens Stock Exchange.
Market analysts speak of a setting of political impasse, whose cost is reflected on the board, as it raises doubts whether the economic team will be able to pass the new measures, with the government front remaining unbroken.
The accomplishment of budgetary targets, not just for this year, would be more difficult under these conditions, analysts explain, while new “thorns” appear in the issue of a new support program to the country by the EU/ECB/IMF.
Current sentiment in the market doesn’t favour a consistent upward reaction, and continues to give “room” for short-term opportunistic moves, according to analysts.
The market has some reservations on the adoption of medium-term program and its final version, said Pegasus Securities in a report. It is not clear whether the necessary correlations will be achieved in order to ensure the majority of votes, it added.
Kyprou Securities stated that ASE investors maintain a “wait and see” stance on their investments expecting an approval of the Mid-term plan from the Greek parliament, reiterating its cautious view on the ASE till that approval.
Across the board, the General Index ended with losses of 1.98% at 1,297.05, after fluctuations into a margin of 31 units (2.33%) Approximately 20.7 million units worth €70.86 million were traded on Tuesday, while a total amount of 90 shares declined, 33 rose and 157 remained unchanged.
Banks’ fluctuations reached 4.77%, ending at 984.61 units, down 3.68%. Eurobank and Hellenic Postbank suffered the heaviest losses, falling by 5.37% and 4.56% respectively. Bank of Cyprus and National Bank declined by 4.44% and 4.09% respectively, while ATEbank remained unchanged at €1.32.
Coca Cola 3E and Public Power Corp were the only FTSE20 shares to end in positive territory, posting profits of 1.69% and 0.10% at session’s high. On the other hand, OTE dropped by 6.24%, while Viohalco and Mytilineos recorded losses of c.3%.
(capital.gr)
The intra-government disagreements and intraparty disputes on the new medium-term program intensify concern in the market and trigger fresh pressures on the Athens Stock Exchange.
Market analysts speak of a setting of political impasse, whose cost is reflected on the board, as it raises doubts whether the economic team will be able to pass the new measures, with the government front remaining unbroken.
The accomplishment of budgetary targets, not just for this year, would be more difficult under these conditions, analysts explain, while new “thorns” appear in the issue of a new support program to the country by the EU/ECB/IMF.
Current sentiment in the market doesn’t favour a consistent upward reaction, and continues to give “room” for short-term opportunistic moves, according to analysts.
The market has some reservations on the adoption of medium-term program and its final version, said Pegasus Securities in a report. It is not clear whether the necessary correlations will be achieved in order to ensure the majority of votes, it added.
Kyprou Securities stated that ASE investors maintain a “wait and see” stance on their investments expecting an approval of the Mid-term plan from the Greek parliament, reiterating its cautious view on the ASE till that approval.
Across the board, the General Index ended with losses of 1.98% at 1,297.05, after fluctuations into a margin of 31 units (2.33%) Approximately 20.7 million units worth €70.86 million were traded on Tuesday, while a total amount of 90 shares declined, 33 rose and 157 remained unchanged.
Banks’ fluctuations reached 4.77%, ending at 984.61 units, down 3.68%. Eurobank and Hellenic Postbank suffered the heaviest losses, falling by 5.37% and 4.56% respectively. Bank of Cyprus and National Bank declined by 4.44% and 4.09% respectively, while ATEbank remained unchanged at €1.32.
Coca Cola 3E and Public Power Corp were the only FTSE20 shares to end in positive territory, posting profits of 1.69% and 0.10% at session’s high. On the other hand, OTE dropped by 6.24%, while Viohalco and Mytilineos recorded losses of c.3%.
(capital.gr)
tommy271
Forumer storico
Grecia: Ghizzoni,su debito no operazioni forzate per banche
Dowjones
ROMA (MF-DJ)--"Credo che ci sia ancora un po' di confusione. Al momento noi non abbiamo avuto nessuna informazione, comunque se e' un'operazione forzata per le banche, credo che le banche non accetteranno e ci sara' una reazione negativa".
Lo afferma l'amministratore delegato di Unicredit, Federico Ghizzoni, a margine di una conferenza stampa alla Camera, rispondendo a chi gli chiedeva un commento sul possibile disaccordo fra le banche europee per un intervento per la ristrutturazione del debito pubblico della Grecia. "Per fortuna noi non abbiamo una grossa esposizione in Grecia" ha poi aggiunto Ghizzoni.
Dowjones
ROMA (MF-DJ)--"Credo che ci sia ancora un po' di confusione. Al momento noi non abbiamo avuto nessuna informazione, comunque se e' un'operazione forzata per le banche, credo che le banche non accetteranno e ci sara' una reazione negativa".
Lo afferma l'amministratore delegato di Unicredit, Federico Ghizzoni, a margine di una conferenza stampa alla Camera, rispondendo a chi gli chiedeva un commento sul possibile disaccordo fra le banche europee per un intervento per la ristrutturazione del debito pubblico della Grecia. "Per fortuna noi non abbiamo una grossa esposizione in Grecia" ha poi aggiunto Ghizzoni.
g.ln
Triplo Panico: comprare
Interessi onesti
Certo che più confusione di così i nostri politici europei non potevano fare
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E il ptf ne risente ed è ridisceso un po' oggi pomeriggio! Ma dobbiamo essere pazienti.
Chissà se il sondaggio di Maratoneta mostrerebbe cambi di posizione oggi?
Io non credo! Più che altro aumenterebbe quello degli inc.ti con la politica UE, che si sta dimostrando molto lontana da quella ideata dai padri fondatori del Mercato Comune Europeo. Che vergogna!
Qualcosa comunque verrà fuori nei prossimi giorni e di chiaro, perchè la Grecia non è un ossetto che possono mettere sotto il tappeto
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Buona serata, Giuseppe
Certo che più confusione di così i nostri politici europei non potevano fare
.E il ptf ne risente ed è ridisceso un po' oggi pomeriggio! Ma dobbiamo essere pazienti.
Chissà se il sondaggio di Maratoneta mostrerebbe cambi di posizione oggi?
Io non credo! Più che altro aumenterebbe quello degli inc.ti con la politica UE, che si sta dimostrando molto lontana da quella ideata dai padri fondatori del Mercato Comune Europeo. Che vergogna!
Qualcosa comunque verrà fuori nei prossimi giorni e di chiaro, perchè la Grecia non è un ossetto che possono mettere sotto il tappeto
.Buona serata, Giuseppe
Gaudente
Forumer storico
ma se tu ritieni equo avere quella remunerazione per il rischio che corri, perche' allora la UE dovrebbe essere considerata usuraia nel chiedere il 6% a fronte del medesimo rischio ?
No, io non sto chiedendo quasi il 20% annuo alla Grecia per prestargli soldi.
Io sto comprando il rischio che un altro investitore non si sente di correre, allo stato attuale delle informazioni.
E se va bene, questo rischio mi viene remunerato con quell'interesse.
Formalmente è diverso
giub
New Membro
ma se tu ritieni equo avere quella remunerazione per il rischio che corri, perche' allora la UE dovrebbe essere considerata usuraia nel chiedere il 6% a fronte del medesimo rischio ?
....l'UE e noi abbiamo obiettivi diversi...
Noi speculiamo, siamo avidi, ricerchiamo il massimo profitto....
L'UE ha obiettivi istituzionali, di salvaguardia, di aiuto comunitario...e soprattutto....li chiamano "aiuti", "soccorsi" "salvataggio"....noi compriamo GGB per i nostri interessi, non ci proponiamo con questi di salvare e soccorre la Grecia. Almeno lo chiamassero "succhiaggio" della Grecia, invece di "salvataggio"....
tommy271
Forumer storico
Merkel MP ally: German CDU likely to okay Greek aid
BERLIN, June 7 | Tue Jun 7, 2011 12:03pm EDT
BERLIN, June 7 (Reuters) - Germany's conservatives will likely agree in parliament to further aid for Greece and to a permanent euro zone rescue mechanism ESM despite grumblings now, the Bundestag leader of Chancellor Angela Merkel's party said.
Peter Altmaier, who leads the CDU parliamentary group, said on Tuesday much would depend on Greece's progress on privatisation and on what the cornerstones of fresh aid for Athens will be.
"Those are points that will play a role for the vote and for how united the vote will be," Altmaier said at a meeting with journalists.
"But my impression is that within the parliamentary group and within the party we are aware of our responsibility for the European process."
A new Greek bailout would need to be approved by all 17 euro zone governments and it would face some political opposition in several northern European donor countries.
But Germany is by far the most important state because it would contribute most to the rescue, and other governments would probably take their cue from Berlin.
The planned European Stability Mechanism (ESM), a rescue facility due to operate from mid-2013, is also controversial in Germany which wants clear guidelines on private sector involvement in bailouts which it handles.
Tough talk from a vocal minority of backbenchers has raised concern Merkel may have a tough time convincing parliament that Greece should receive fresh aid, but she still has broad support within her coalition and among key opposition leaders.
On Monday, Gerhard Schick, finance policy expert of the opposition Greens party said it was in Germany's interest that Greece not default and signalled the Greens would not stand in the way of a European solution.
Altmaier said that a hard restructuring of Greek debt involving substantial losses for private bond holders was no longer a topic.
"On Greece, I just want to say again that a compulsory restructuring (of debt) is off the table and has been off the table for at least 14 days or three weeks,"
Some parliamentarians, speaking on condition of anonymity, have said hard restructuring is probably inevitable but they added that going down this path now would be too risky -- politically and economically.
Merkel is probably not going to need formal approval from parliament on a new aid deal for Greece if as expected it is handled by the temporary rescue mechanism, the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), but bypassing it altogether could prove suicidal for her.
Merkel and Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble will personally brief ruling party parliamentarians on the Greek situation on Wednesday evening.
On Friday, parliament may vote on two non-binding resolutions related to the crisis.
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Non ostante si va avanti ....
BERLIN, June 7 | Tue Jun 7, 2011 12:03pm EDT
BERLIN, June 7 (Reuters) - Germany's conservatives will likely agree in parliament to further aid for Greece and to a permanent euro zone rescue mechanism ESM despite grumblings now, the Bundestag leader of Chancellor Angela Merkel's party said.
Peter Altmaier, who leads the CDU parliamentary group, said on Tuesday much would depend on Greece's progress on privatisation and on what the cornerstones of fresh aid for Athens will be.
"Those are points that will play a role for the vote and for how united the vote will be," Altmaier said at a meeting with journalists.
"But my impression is that within the parliamentary group and within the party we are aware of our responsibility for the European process."
A new Greek bailout would need to be approved by all 17 euro zone governments and it would face some political opposition in several northern European donor countries.
But Germany is by far the most important state because it would contribute most to the rescue, and other governments would probably take their cue from Berlin.
The planned European Stability Mechanism (ESM), a rescue facility due to operate from mid-2013, is also controversial in Germany which wants clear guidelines on private sector involvement in bailouts which it handles.
Tough talk from a vocal minority of backbenchers has raised concern Merkel may have a tough time convincing parliament that Greece should receive fresh aid, but she still has broad support within her coalition and among key opposition leaders.
On Monday, Gerhard Schick, finance policy expert of the opposition Greens party said it was in Germany's interest that Greece not default and signalled the Greens would not stand in the way of a European solution.
Altmaier said that a hard restructuring of Greek debt involving substantial losses for private bond holders was no longer a topic.
"On Greece, I just want to say again that a compulsory restructuring (of debt) is off the table and has been off the table for at least 14 days or three weeks,"
Some parliamentarians, speaking on condition of anonymity, have said hard restructuring is probably inevitable but they added that going down this path now would be too risky -- politically and economically.
Merkel is probably not going to need formal approval from parliament on a new aid deal for Greece if as expected it is handled by the temporary rescue mechanism, the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), but bypassing it altogether could prove suicidal for her.
Merkel and Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble will personally brief ruling party parliamentarians on the Greek situation on Wednesday evening.
On Friday, parliament may vote on two non-binding resolutions related to the crisis.
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Non ostante si va avanti ...
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giub
New Membro
e poi oramai 10$ di prezzo base non te lo fanno piu' neanche in Cambogia
perchè quanto sarebbe adesso da quelle parti? Tornatene in Italia allora...30 euro....e ti fanno i complimenti in Italiano "che bello pizello"....
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