Titoli di Stato area Euro GRECIA Operativo titoli di stato - Cap. 1

Stato
Chiusa ad ulteriori risposte.
qualche mese ? a fargli passare la baldanza bastera' qualche giorno :lol:

Si, se la piazza ha la meglio.

A qs punto però l'unica alternativa della piazza è una rivoluzione sullo stile di quella avvenuta a Belgrado pochi anni fa per rovesciare Milosevic.

Non è una opzione da scartare completamente.

Nota: sono un bondholder della grecia
 
Si, se la piazza ha la meglio.

A qs punto però l'unica alternativa della piazza è una rivoluzione sullo stile di quella avvenuta a Belgrado pochi anni fa per rovesciare Milosevic.

Non è una opzione da scartare completamente.

Nota: sono un bondholder della grecia

Io in piazza non vedo nessuno in grado di rovesciare l'esecutivo e di governare il paese.
Ti riferisci agli anarcoidi o a quelli del KKE ...

In quanto alla rivoluzione in stile "belgradese" non ne vedo i presupposti.
 
Ultima modifica:
German Banks, Finance Ministry Seek Greece Agreement

By Aaron Kirchfeld - Jun 29, 2011 3:24 PM GMT+0200 Wed Jun 29 13:24:17 GMT 2011






German banking and insurance executives and government finance officials held talks in Berlin to hammer out a preliminary agreement on a Greek debt rollover before a meeting with Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble tomorrow, two people familiar with the matter said.
The firms and government representatives, working off a French proposal, discussed potential sticking points including the maturity of the Greek bonds, whether investors would face writedowns on their current holdings, and how rating companies would view a rollover, said the people, who declined to be identified because the talks are private.
Deutsche Bank AG (DBK) Chief Executive Officer Josef Ackermann said at a conference in Berlin today that he expects the financial industry to contribute to a rescue to help policymakers avoid a “meltdown.” Ackermann, who spoke beside Chancellor Angela Merkel, warned that a Greek default and potential contagion could be worse than the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. He’ll attend the meeting with Schaeuble tomorrow.
Schaeuble will hold talks with the heads of German banks and insurers tomorrow, his deputy, Joerg Asmussen, said yesterday. The meetings are part of Europe-wide efforts to get creditors to share the cost of a second Greek bailout and prevent the euro-region’s first default, a year after a 110 billion-euro ($157 billion) package failed to resolve the debt crisis.



Up to Germans

German and French lenders are the biggest foreign holders of Greek debt and their participation is key to the European Union goal of getting banks to roll over at least 30 billion euros of bonds. Schaeuble sees a French proposal to roll over Greek debt as a “good basis” for talks, Asmussen said yesterday.
Under the French plan, private investors would receive new Greek 30-year bonds worth 70 percent of their original holdings, with the remaining 30 percent paid in cash on maturity. Greece would use 50 percent of the original amount to pay down its debt, with 20 percent invested in zero-coupon bonds through a special purpose vehicle that will be used as collateral to insure the banks get repaid.
Banks that roll over their debt under the French plan would receive 30-year bonds with a coupon of about 5.5 percent, which could be increased by as much as 2.5 percentage points based on the pace of Greek economic growth, the people said. The SPV will invest in AAA-rated securities that will be held as collateral to protect the banks against a Greek default.



French Accord

In a second option, investors would reinvest at least 90 percent of their redemptions into five-year Greek government debt with a coupon of 5.5 percent, according to the proposal.
The plan depends upon credit-rating firms not cutting their grade on Greece and existing or newly issued government securities to default, according to the draft. A Paris-based spokeswoman at the French Banking Federation declined to comment on the three-page report when contacted by Bloomberg.
The French plan to roll over Greek sovereign debt has the backing of most of France’s banks and insurers, and it’s now up to investors in Germany and elsewhere in Europe to agree to a strategy, according to two people familiar with the matter.
European banks hold 17.2 billion euros of Greek bonds maturing by the end of 2013, Citigroup Inc. estimated in a June 23 report. Greek banks hold almost 22 billion euros of bonds coming due in that period, and the country’s central bank owned 5.1 billion euros of debt likely eligible for the rollover, Citigroup estimated.
There is “growing interest” among international banks in resolving the Greek debt crisis via measures that include debt buybacks, said Charles Dallara, managing director of the Institute of International Finance.
“Debt buybacks can be a real component of a more comprehensive approach here,” Dallara told reporters in Istanbul today. The amount of buybacks “has to be significant enough to affect the thinking of market analysts.”



(bloomberg)
 
Ultima modifica:
Commerzbank CEO: French Plan For Greece Good Basis For Discussion





BERLIN (Dow Jones)--Commerzbank AG (CBK.XE), together with other banks and insurers, supports efforts by politicians to achieve a rescue package for Greece that includes the participation of the private sector, Commerzbank Chief Executive Martin Blessing said Wednesday.
Speaking at a banking conference, Blessing said a proposal by French banks could in principle serve as a "basis for discussion" for a plan involving German financial firms, but would need some adjustments. He wasn't more specific. A proposal by Allianz SE (ALV.XE) for setting up a credit insurer could also be useful as part of a solution, Blessing said.
French banks and insurers proposed to extend the maturity of Greek bonds in order to give the highly indebted country more fiscal breathing space. Greece has EUR64 billion of bonds maturing by 2014, and government creditors want to get private investors to participate in the rescue package.
Talks between German financial firms and the finance ministry over finding a solution continue Wednesday and Thursday. Deutsche Bank Chief Executive Josef Ackermann said earlier Wednesday said he's confident German banks will disclose their role in an aid package for Greece Thursday.
"It's about buying time," Blessing said, adding that it could possibly take more than 10 years to get highly indebted Greece back on its feet.
He noted that the European Union should use that time to foster the political integration.
Blessing also called for stronger efforts to regulate those financial firms such as hedge funds that currently aren't regulated, in order to avoid that capital being shifted away from banks to unregulated financial firms.
 
Dizzying Fluctuations In ASE



Greek banks dropped by 70 units, right after the adoption of the Medium-Term Fiscal Strategy, trimming profits of 6% and ending just above session’s low.

The General Index recorded marginal profits, despite intraday gains of 3.27%, while Public Power Corp topped FTSE20 with profits of 3.33%.


Athens Exchange focused exclusively on the vote for the Medium-Term Program, as it turned into a political thriller recently. The market had anticipated the adoption of the critical legislation, which was welcomed by European officials. This development paves the way for next aid tranche and the approval of a new support program, President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy and President of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso said in a joint statement.


Market analysts comment that the attention is now turned to the passing of the Implementation Act tomorrow and the extraordinary Eurogroup meeting to be held in the weekend. High volatility is expected to maintain on the Greek board, until European processes lead to more concrete decisions on Greece.


Regarding today’s market reaction and the sharp decline after the adoption of the austerity measures, analysts note that the market that the final “yes” had been already priced, while it couldn’t reverse the short-term trend.

On the board, the General Index recorded profits of 0.48%, at 1,264.85 units. Approximately 40.66 million units worth €126.74 million, while a total amount of 93 shares rose, 43 declined and 144 remained unchanged.

Banks declined by 0.97% at 965.27 units, after fluctuated into a margin of 7.09% or 69.1 units. Only Attica Bank, Proton Bank and Alpha Bank ended in green, while National Bank suffered the heaviest pressures.

PPC topped FTSE20 with profits of 3.33% at €9.61, OTE and Mytilineos gained 1.64% and 1.50% at €6.18 and €4.73 respectively. On the other hand, National Bank fell by 1.84% at €4.81, while ATEBank and Marfin Popular Bank declined by 1.59%.

(capital.gr)
 
certo che sono inc@@@ati neri hanno dato fuoco all'entrata del ministero delle finanze.................bhe adesso a parte gli scherzi .....sono contento per la manovra e spero che questo AIUTI IL POPOLO ELLENICO SOPRATUTTO e naturalmente anche noi sia che siamo azionisti che obbligazionisti.....cmq secondo me perchè ne escano fuori ci andranno almeno 4/5 anni spero che ci sia un intesa anche a livello popolare
 
Prime ripercussioni del voto, il deputato Costas Kilditis ha fatto sapere che non appartiene più alla formazione di "Alleanza Democratica" che si era astenuta durante il voto.
Al momento non sappiamo altro.

Probabilmente passerà alla formazione di destra, Laos.
All'opposizione.
 
Ultima modifica:
Io in piazza non vedo nessuno in grado di rovesciare l'esecutivo e di governare il paese.
Ti riferisci agli anarcoidi o a quelli del KKE ...

In quanto alla rivoluzione in stile "belgradese" non ne vedo i presupposti.


Si anche io la vedo come una ipotesi remota
Ma non da scartare a priori per i prossimi giorni che saranno caldi
 
Greek Parliament backs austerity package [update]




dot_clear.gif
The Greek Parliament has passed the government’s medium-term fiscal plan, seen as crucial for staving off bankruptcy, on a day of high tension both inside the house and in Syntagma Square outside.
Government fears of a rebellion within the ruling PASOK party did not materialize and several of the deputies who had indicated that they would oppose the new austerity measures changed their position at the last minute, which meant that 155 deputies voted in favor of the plan and 138 against.
Panayiotis Kouroublis was the only PASOK lawmaker who voted against the package but this was balanced by New Democracy deputy Elsa Papadimitriou supporting the midterm fiscal plan.
Prime Minister George Papandreou ousted Kouroublis from the party.
Papadimitriou made it known that she was also quitting the conservatives and would continue in Parliament as an independent.
Kozani MP Alexandros Athanasiadis, who had said he would vote against the bill because he opposed the privatization of Public Power Corporation, switched and cast his vote in favor of the government.
Democratic Alliance leader Dora Bakoyannis and her party’s four MPs voted “present”.
The government now has to pass the implementation law for the measures through Parliament on Thursday to secure Greece’s next loan installment, worth 12 billion euros, from the European Union and International Monetary Fund.
The passage of the legislation will also pave the way for the EU and IMF to finalize the details of a second bailout for Greece.
Meanwhile, clashes persisted outside Parliament between riot police and furious protesters. Police fired volleys of tear gas to push back demonstrators that were pelting them with bottles, trash and chunks of marble.






ekathimerini.com , Wednesday June 29, 2011 (16:27)
 
Citigroup: French proposal is no solution





dot_clear.gif
A Citigroup report late on Tuesday cast doubt on the impact of the French proposal for a debt rollover and of the second Greek bailout, suggesting a “haircut” -- i.e. a reduction in interest -- will be inevitable.
The report argued that these two initiatives will not resolve the country's debt problem, but simply delay the inevitable restructuring.
"Estimated private sector haircuts will amount to 65 to 77 percent,» Citigroup said, referring to the write-downs that bondholders will be required to accept.
“In other words, a bailout package addresses the liquidity issue much more than the solvency issue,” Citigroup added.
At the same time, the French proposal and its acceptance will eventually depend on what rating agencies do and whether it leads to a new downgrade and a default, the report warned.






ekathimerini.com , Wednesday June 29, 2011 (17:57)

:eeh:
 
Stato
Chiusa ad ulteriori risposte.

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Alto