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Vedo troppo tifosi dei titoli e questo è un male.
Le novità di ieri indirizzano il solo problema del debito che è quello più banale da risolvere per l'economia greca. E' dimostrabile nei numeri che la sostenibilità non sarebbe in discussione potendo contare su prestiti o sullo schema ponzi "titoli di stato-banche greche-BCE".

Il problema reale verte sul deficit e su questo punto attualmente i dati 2011 non sono incoraggianti poichè peggiori del 2010.
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Una ripresa nel valore dei titoli significativa e sostenibile sarebbe poco giustificata allo stato attuale quindi attenzione ai facili entusiasmi. :ciao:

Ciao Grisù, è un pò che non ci sentiamo: i dati dei primi due mesi sul fronte entrate/uscite, sono negativi.
Li ho postati ieri, siamo ancora in piena recessione. Bisognerà aspettare questa estate per vedere se il quadro inizierà a migliorare.

Però penso, sarai d'accordo, che la diminuizione del deficit passa solo in minima parte sulle partite correnti (ma in linea di massima ci siamo) mentre l'aggressione vera sarà un problema di gestione europea: un calo dei tassi da pagare, un piano di buy-back accompagnato (forse) da un piano di riacquisto (o concambio) possono migliorare molto efficacemente il deficit/Pil.
A questo aggiungi il piano da 50 MLD (cui è subordinata l'intesa di ieri) e vedrai che le cose vanno meglio, aldilà della gestione corrente.
Un rinnovato clima di fiducia potrà fare il resto, non dobbiamo spettarci miracoli ma un supporto come quello che si è manifestato ieri a Bruxelles, può fare molto.
 
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Vedo troppo tifosi dei titoli e questo è un male.
Le novità di ieri indirizzano il solo problema del debito che è quello più banale da risolvere per l'economia greca. E' dimostrabile nei numeri che la sostenibilità non sarebbe in discussione potendo contare su prestiti o sullo schema ponzi "titoli di stato-banche greche-BCE".

Il problema reale verte sul deficit e su questo punto attualmente i dati 2011 non sono incoraggianti poichè peggiori del 2010.

Una ripresa nel valore dei titoli significativa e sostenibile sarebbe poco giustificata allo stato attuale quindi attenzione ai facili entusiasmi. :ciao:
Difatti, sebbene tutti ci auguriamo caldamente di assistere ad una risalita, occorre guardare alle reali motivazioni che potrebbero supportarla. L'entusiasmo e l'euforia sono stati già ridicolizzati più volte..
 
Euro leaders surprise with crisis deal

By GABRIELE STEINHAUSER



Eurozone leaders say they have agreed on the cornerstones of a comprehensive solution to the currency union's crippling debt crisis.
EU President Herman Van Rompuy says governments will boost the effective lending capacity of the region's bailout fund to euro440 billion.
He says they will allow the fund to buy government bonds on the primary market as part of a national bailout program.
He says they will also lower the interest rates for Greece's bailout by 1 percentage point.
On top of that, Greece will also get seven years to repay its loans, up from 3 1/2 years.


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In poche parole da Bloomberg, mi pare non sia poco ...
 
Difatti, sebbene tutti ci auguriamo caldamente di assistere ad una risalita, occorre guardare alle reali motivazioni che potrebbero supportarla. L'entusiasmo e l'euforia sono stati già ridicolizzati più volte..

I dati, mi auguro migliori, sul deficit/Pil non li vediamo domani mattina.
E neanche a fine mese.
Inizieremo a vederli a fine anno, quando allora i nostri titoli quoteranno 100 ... :-o.
 
Difatti, sebbene tutti ci auguriamo caldamente di assistere ad una risalita, occorre guardare alle reali motivazioni che potrebbero supportarla. L'entusiasmo e l'euforia sono stati già ridicolizzati più volte..


hai ragione...
pero' dai.. una volta che escono notizie positive, cerchiamo di festeggiarle..
altrimenti rimane solo il pessimismo e la tragedia...greca:D
e sùùùù..
 
Greece satisfied over loan extension, rate cut




BRUSSELS (ANA-MPA) -- The Greek government expressed satisfaction late Friday evening over a decision here by eurozone members to extend the repayment period for Greece's 110-billion-euro EC-ECB-IMF bailout to seven and a half years, as well as a reduction in the interest rate -- from 5.2 percent to 4.2 percent.

"Today's (Friday) decisions are clear proof that the efforts being made by the Greek government are being recognised,"
Prime Minister George Papandreou stressed after the end of an informal EU summit and a council of eurozone members, while also noting that Athens' seriousness and reliability in implementing a wide-ranging structual reform package is paying off.

"In this effort, we requested the support of our partners in the eurozone," he said, pointing out that the reduction in the interest rate aims to keep the cost of lending manageable for the country. Along those lines, he said the extension and the reduction, by 100 basis points, of the interest rate translates into six billion euros in savings.

Moreover, Papandreou directly referred to the prospect of exploiting state assets and property -- in tandem with structural reforms and privatisations -- in order to reach a goal of 50 billion euros, "something that will lift the debt burden off the back of the people by 20 percent".

The 50-billion-euro target by 2015, cited by representatives of the "troika" last month in Athens, initially generated mini political furor.

Finally, in a bid to allays fears back home, Papandreou also said that decisions taken by eurozone members do not mean new austerity measures.

(ana.gr)

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I dati espressi, risparmio sul deficit da una riduzione dei tassi (e solo questa è una "manovra") privatizzazioni e buy-back con gli acquisti già effettuati da BCE, potrebbero riportare il deficit/PIl a livelli molto sostenibili.
 
Mixed reactions by parties




(ANA-MPA) -- News of the Eurogroup decision the previous evening to extend the loan repayment period for Greece's EC-ECB-IMF bailout as well as to cut one percentage point off the interest rate on the 110-billion-euro package received a mixed response by Greece's main opposition parties on Satuday.

A main opposition New Democracy (ND) official, MP Christos Staikouras, referred to a "significant decision for Europe, with positive repercussions for Greece", while noting that many of the decisions were proposals by ND.

Conversely, on the other side of the political spectrum, Communist Party (KKE) leader Aleka Papariga dismissed what she called a "reactionary agreement", which she claimed will lead to new and harsher austerity measures. She also stepped up criticism by charging that PM George Papandreou was "lying" about the contents of the exact agreement.

On his part, right-of-centre Popular Orthodox Rally (LA.O.S) party president George Karatzaferis praised the development.

"We may not have achieved the maximum of our goals in this Europe (combination), but we did gain a great deal more that the pessimists expected. The issue now is who will manage this new opportunity, which was handed to us. Obviously, the backbone of this (Greek) government, which has failed miserably during the first 10 months of the Memorandum, cannot serve as the best guarantee for the future of Greece," he said.

In a negative tone, the leader of the leftist SYRIZA grouping, Alexis Tsipras, charged that the extension of the repayment period came at the expense of the "sell-off" of state property and a new Memorandu and burdens for the Greek people.

(ana.gr)

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Come dice Jessica, non dobbiamo essere pessimisti ad oltranza dopo le tante "sberle" che abbiamo ricevuto ...

Se anche i principali avversari di Papandreou, in primis Nuova Democrazia, hanno detto che :" è una decisione importante per l'Europa, con ricadute positive per la Grecia", aggiungendo poi che "molte delle decisioni sono state proposte da ND" penso che il clima di ottimismo non sia mal riposto ...
 
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The killer tsunami in Japan following a massive earthquake and reactions to Friday's decision by the eurogroup to extend the repayment period and lower the interest rate for Greece's 110-billion-euro EC-ECB-IMF bailout mostly dominated the headlines on Saturday in Athens' dailies.



ADESMEFTOS TYPOS: "Hellish situation in Japan".

AVGI: "Prime minister giving all for extension, plus 50 billion euros".

AVRIANI: "(German Chancellor Angela) Merkel's waves demolish Greece and finish George Papandreou's political career".

ETHNOS: "39 last-minute changes to tax code".

ELEFTHEROS: "Merkel demands shocking concessions in order to save us".

ELEFTHEROTYPIA: "(EU) gives; wants; we request".

ELEFTHEROS TYPOS: "The (estate's) keys go to Merkel".

ESTIA: "Nightmarish scenes from Tsunami".

KATHIMERINI: "Stern message from Europe".

IMERISSIA: "Reshuffle with shocking changes".

NAFTEMPORIKI: "Agreement with 'grants' but strict commitments, a well".

RIZOSPASTIS: "Continuous anti-popular war with 'competitiveness pact'."

ΤΑ ΝΕΑ: "Biblical destruction: Earth sliced open, sea bursts ashore in Japan".

VRADYNI: "Waves of death in Pacific".

(ana.gr)
 
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Europe Boosts Bailout Fund With `Firewall' Bond Purchases, Eases Greek Aid

By Alan Crawford and Simon Kennedy - Mar 12, 2011 2:33 PM GMT+0100 Sat Mar 12 13:33:42 GMT 2011



European leaders widened the scope of the euro’s rescue fund, authorized it to buy government bonds and eased the terms of Greek bailout loans as they unexpectedly pushed through fresh measures to end the bloc’s debt crisis.
Under a pact struck at 1:30 a.m. in Brussels after eight hours of talks, the bailout facility will now be able to spend its full 440 billion-euro capacity ($611 billion) and to buy bonds directly from governments. In a blow to European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet, it won’t be allowed to purchase debt in the open market or to finance debt buybacks.
The agreement is part of a push by governments to draw a line under the crisis, which has raged for more than a year despite a series of remedies by European governments. Investors had expected a deal to be delayed until a March 24-25 summit, with the yields on Greek and Portuguese bonds this week rising to euro-era records on concern officials would again fall short.
I’m positively surprised, for a change,” said Andrew Bosomworth, a money manager at Pacific Investment Management Co. in Munich and former ECB economist. “The agreement contains important elements of a firewall” that could stop the crisis worsening.
Allowing the fund buy bonds in the primary market would help other indebted nations by acting as a backstop should a Greek restructuring spook markets and threaten to derail government bond auctions, he said.


Morning Accord

While Greece was told it would have the cost of its loans pared and the repayment period extended, officials rejected Ireland’s bid for relief as recently elected Prime Minister Enda Kenny refused to yield to calls to raise its 12.5 percent company tax rate.
The accord came at the end of a session that began after 5 p.m. following daylong talks among the 27 European Union heads on the Libyan crisis. German and French officials this week said they didn’t expect a comprehensive pact until the end of month even as the debt ratings of Greece and Spain were cut and the euro posted its biggest weekly drop since the start of 2011.
“This is an important message on the political pledge of the euro members to fight for the euro’s stability,” German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters. “Everyone had to make a contribution. I hope that this will also be a good message to the world in terms of the euro as a major currency.”
An initial deal last night on a plan to tighten economic cooperation and boost competitiveness committed nations to enact budget rules into law, a core German demand, and paved the way for the final agreement by the end of the month.


Merkel Politics

By reaching an agreement now, Merkel avoided having to deal with it in the run up to a March 27 regional election in Baden Wurttemberg as her voters complain about having to bailout other countries.
In return for acceptance of her conditions on controlling debt, Merkel swung Europe’s biggest economy behind plans to allow greater flexibility and firepower in the EU rescue fund, the European Financial Stability Facility.
“This should go down well with the markets for now and lead to an easing of the euro-zone’s sovereign debt crisis in the near term at least,” said Howard Archer, chief European economist at IHS Global Insight in London. “The leaders will hope this is taken as evidence of their determination to do whatever is necessary to hold the eurozone together.”
The EFSF had been limited to spending about 250 billion euros due to reserves it had to hold for its AAA rating. The commitment wasn’t matched with detail as Merkel indicated states will increase their guarantees.


Trichet Tone

The provision to allow primary-market bond purchases will offer a lifeline to aid recipients in return for austerity commitments. A basic accord was also reached on the permanent safety net from 2013, the European Stability Mechanism, with a mix of guarantees and capital, she said.
Trichet resisted giving the deal a full-blown endorsement, saying it “goes in the right direction.” That signals disappointment in the refusal of governments to let the rescue facility buy bonds in the open market and take pressure off the ECB, which has bought 77 billion euros of assets in the past year.
Adding urgency to the talks, the leaders met amid speculation that Greece would be forced to restructure its debt and Portugal would soon be the third euro nation to need help.
Greek 10-year yields rose 6 basis points yesterday to 12.81 percent and similar-maturity Irish yields jumped 14 basis points to 9.65 percent. Greek securities plunged this week after Moody’s Investors Service cut the nation’s rating, already at junk, by another three levels, saying the probability of default had increased. Credit-default swaps on Greek government debt rose 8 basis points to a record 1,048 basis points.


Lower Greek Rates

Leaders made a provisional agreement to lower Greece’s interest rates of about 5 percent for aid by 100 basis points, and extend the repayment period of the loans to 7 1/2 years from three years.
Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou said the moves would save about 6 billion euros over the life of the loans.
Greece has made major efforts, just look at the size of their privatization program,” French President Nicolas Sarkozy said. “We’re not asking Ireland to put up their corporate taxes to the European average, but to make some effort.”
With two weeks to the summit endgame, Merkel and Sarkozy clashed with Kenny over corporate taxes. They had insisted on a common corporate tax base as the condition for agreeing to ease the terms of Ireland’s 85 billion-euro bailout. Kenny rejected that position, calling it “harmonization of taxes through the back door.”



Irish Opposition

Ireland’s main corporate tax rate is 12.5 percent, compared with an EU average of about 23 percent and even higher rates in Germany and France, which it has used to lure companies such as Hewlett-Packard Co.
The European Commission, the EU’s executive body, will present a proposal on a common corporate tax base in the coming weeks, the agency said. Ireland will think it over and come back to the rest of the EU within two weeks, Merkel said.
Talks on a deal for Ireland “will be difficult and detailed but I am convinced and remain convinced that there will be that we can find a way forward,” Kenny said.
With the debt crisis lapping at Portugal’s shores, Prime Minister Jose Socrates’s government yesterday announced new commitments on deficit reduction amounting to 0.8 percent of gross domestic product for this year.
The yield on Portugal’s five-year debt surged to a euro-era record of 8 percent on speculation that would soon be forced to seek a bailout. Portugal’s 10-year bond yields reached 7.70 percent on March 9, the highest since at least 1997.
Questions have also been raised about Spain, which was cut to Aa2 by Moody’s Investors Service on March 10 on concern about the cost of shoring up its banking system. Spain’s 10-year government bond yield was at 5.4 percent yesterday.
Trichet said the “credibility” of the Portuguese government “seems to me considerably re-enforced by these measures, which are of substance. When you go through all the measures, you see they are very substantial.”

(Bloomberg)


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Anche PIMCO è rimasta piacevolmente sorpresa ... e sono gli "amici" di Gaudente ...
A proposito, non l'abbiamo ancora sentito. Sentiamo cosa ci dirà sull'argomento ...
 
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