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Grecia, bisogna darle tempo su aggiustamento - Gurria (Ocse)
lunedì 9 maggio 2011 17:00
MILANO, 9 maggio (Reuters) Il segretario generale dell'Ocse Angel Gurria ritiene necessario dare alla Grecia il tempo necessario per rimettere in sesto la propria situazione finanziaria.
"Per i piani di aggiustamento è necessario un tempo minimo, non si può continuare a cambiare le modalità (di aggiustamento) perchè questo non funziona...bisogna dare tempo", ha detto Gurria rispondendo a una domanda sull'ipotesi di una ristrutturazione del debito greco nel corso di un evento all'Aspen Institute.
(Francesca Landini)
http://borsaitaliana.it.reuters.com/article/foreignNews/idITLDE7481PS20110509
lunedì 9 maggio 2011 17:00
MILANO, 9 maggio (Reuters) Il segretario generale dell'Ocse Angel Gurria ritiene necessario dare alla Grecia il tempo necessario per rimettere in sesto la propria situazione finanziaria.
"Per i piani di aggiustamento è necessario un tempo minimo, non si può continuare a cambiare le modalità (di aggiustamento) perchè questo non funziona...bisogna dare tempo", ha detto Gurria rispondendo a una domanda sull'ipotesi di una ristrutturazione del debito greco nel corso di un evento all'Aspen Institute.
(Francesca Landini)
http://borsaitaliana.it.reuters.com/article/foreignNews/idITLDE7481PS20110509
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tommy271
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UPDATE: Non-Core Euro-Zone Bonds Fall On Greece Concerns
(Rewrites throughout, adds trader comments, background)
By Neelabh Chaturvedi and Nick Cawley
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
LONDON (Dow Jones)--The extra yield demanded by investors to buy bonds of highly indebted euro-zone countries instead of safe-haven German bunds widened Monday after Standard & Poor's Corp. cut Greece's debt rating and investors assessed the impact of the likely options for dealing with the Greek government's mounting debt problems.
S&P lowered its long- and short-term sovereign credit to 'B' and 'C', from 'BB-' and 'B', respectively. Both the long- and short-term ratings remain on CreditWatch with negative implications, expected to be resolved in the next three months.
The rating agency cited the possibility of an extension of Greek debt repayment maturities behind its move.
The ratings company said such an extension would lead creditor governments to seek "comparability of treatment" from commercial creditors in the form of their similarly extending bond and loan maturities.
Greek bonds fell and the heightened uncertainty over the debt troubles in the euro zone also spurred investors to pare holdings of Italian and Spanish bonds.
"There has been heavy selling pressure in Spain today," said a government bond trader in London. Another trader noted also selling of Italian bonds although he said flows in Greek bonds were "very, very thin".
The 10-year Greek/German yield spread widened 18 basis points from Friday to 1,242 basis points.
The 10-year Spanish/German yield spread rose by 18 basis points to 223 basis points while the Italian/German yield spread rose by 12 basis points to 169 basis points.
Portuguese bonds tumbled, with the 10-year yield spread over Germany rising by 23 basis points to 690 basis points.
Greece is finding it hard to reassure investors it can mend its finances, a year after becoming the first country in the euro zone's history to accept a bailout.
The country is running behind deficit reduction targets and yields on Greek bonds have soared, making it increasingly difficult for the country to return to debt markets in 2012 when it faces EUR33 billion of bond redemptions.
Officials denied reports Friday that Greece was planning to leave the euro zone, although Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou said he is considering the option of having a European bailout fund buy its debt if Greece can't access debt markets next year.
"The probability that this event will happen is very low and, consequently, Greece will have to turn to the European Financial Stability Facility and to raise EUR25 billion-EUR30 billion next year to meet debt repayments not covered by the current bailout," said Alessandro Giansanti, an interest rate strategist at ING.
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Un'occhiata in giro per l'Europa ...
(Rewrites throughout, adds trader comments, background)
By Neelabh Chaturvedi and Nick Cawley
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
LONDON (Dow Jones)--The extra yield demanded by investors to buy bonds of highly indebted euro-zone countries instead of safe-haven German bunds widened Monday after Standard & Poor's Corp. cut Greece's debt rating and investors assessed the impact of the likely options for dealing with the Greek government's mounting debt problems.
S&P lowered its long- and short-term sovereign credit to 'B' and 'C', from 'BB-' and 'B', respectively. Both the long- and short-term ratings remain on CreditWatch with negative implications, expected to be resolved in the next three months.
The rating agency cited the possibility of an extension of Greek debt repayment maturities behind its move.
The ratings company said such an extension would lead creditor governments to seek "comparability of treatment" from commercial creditors in the form of their similarly extending bond and loan maturities.
Greek bonds fell and the heightened uncertainty over the debt troubles in the euro zone also spurred investors to pare holdings of Italian and Spanish bonds.
"There has been heavy selling pressure in Spain today," said a government bond trader in London. Another trader noted also selling of Italian bonds although he said flows in Greek bonds were "very, very thin".
The 10-year Greek/German yield spread widened 18 basis points from Friday to 1,242 basis points.
The 10-year Spanish/German yield spread rose by 18 basis points to 223 basis points while the Italian/German yield spread rose by 12 basis points to 169 basis points.
Portuguese bonds tumbled, with the 10-year yield spread over Germany rising by 23 basis points to 690 basis points.
Greece is finding it hard to reassure investors it can mend its finances, a year after becoming the first country in the euro zone's history to accept a bailout.
The country is running behind deficit reduction targets and yields on Greek bonds have soared, making it increasingly difficult for the country to return to debt markets in 2012 when it faces EUR33 billion of bond redemptions.
Officials denied reports Friday that Greece was planning to leave the euro zone, although Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou said he is considering the option of having a European bailout fund buy its debt if Greece can't access debt markets next year.
"The probability that this event will happen is very low and, consequently, Greece will have to turn to the European Financial Stability Facility and to raise EUR25 billion-EUR30 billion next year to meet debt repayments not covered by the current bailout," said Alessandro Giansanti, an interest rate strategist at ING.
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Un'occhiata in giro per l'Europa ...
tommy271
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Grecia: Tremonti, "naturalmente non parlo"
MILANO (MF-DJ)--"Della Grecia naturalmente non parlo".
Ha risposto cosi' il ministro dell'Economia Giulio Tremonti a Milano per partecipare alla conferenza stampa dell'Ocse, a chi gli chiedeva se venerdi' scorso in Lussemburgo si e' discusso della possibilita' di una ristrutturazione del debito pubblico della Grecia
MILANO (MF-DJ)--"Della Grecia naturalmente non parlo".
Ha risposto cosi' il ministro dell'Economia Giulio Tremonti a Milano per partecipare alla conferenza stampa dell'Ocse, a chi gli chiedeva se venerdi' scorso in Lussemburgo si e' discusso della possibilita' di una ristrutturazione del debito pubblico della Grecia
giub
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come riferimento i tassi degli ultimi anni,
manca quello 26 settimane del 12 aprile pari al 4,80%
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immagino tra il 4,70% ed il 4,90%
anche io starei circa 4,92%...temo il superamento della soglia psicologica dl 5%....
ficodindia
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Sagge parole!
"Per i piani di aggiustamento è necessario un tempo minimo, non si può continuare a cambiare le modalità (di aggiustamento) perchè questo non funziona...bisogna dare tempo", ha detto Gurria rispondendo a una domanda sull'ipotesi di una ristrutturazione del debito greco nel corso di un evento all'Aspen Institute.
(Francesca Landini)
E' ciò che sostengo anch'io, e tra l'altro in compagnia di Draghi. Perchè questa fretta con la Grecia? Perchè questi continui declassamenti? A chi giovano?
Secondo il ministero delle finanze greche, le decisioni "dovrebbero essere basate su dati oggettivi, su annunci dei politici e su valutazioni realistiche delle condizioni dell'economia e non su 'rumor' di mercato e articoli di stampa. Quando tali decisioni si basano semplicemente su 'rumor', la loro validità è fortemente messa in dubbio".
S&P taglia il rating alla Grecia Atene: "Decisione immotivata" - Repubblica.it
"Per i piani di aggiustamento è necessario un tempo minimo, non si può continuare a cambiare le modalità (di aggiustamento) perchè questo non funziona...bisogna dare tempo", ha detto Gurria rispondendo a una domanda sull'ipotesi di una ristrutturazione del debito greco nel corso di un evento all'Aspen Institute.
(Francesca Landini)
E' ciò che sostengo anch'io, e tra l'altro in compagnia di Draghi. Perchè questa fretta con la Grecia? Perchè questi continui declassamenti? A chi giovano?
Secondo il ministero delle finanze greche, le decisioni "dovrebbero essere basate su dati oggettivi, su annunci dei politici e su valutazioni realistiche delle condizioni dell'economia e non su 'rumor' di mercato e articoli di stampa. Quando tali decisioni si basano semplicemente su 'rumor', la loro validità è fortemente messa in dubbio".
S&P taglia il rating alla Grecia Atene: "Decisione immotivata" - Repubblica.it
ficodindia
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Ancora sul valore di un eventuale taglio (haircut) del debito.
Dire ce l'eventuale taglio sarà almeno del 50% è semplicemente ridicolo. Un taglio di tale valore, ripeto, significa che la Grecia raggiungerà i parametri di Maastricht con una cura da cavallo, nonostante gli attuali enormi sacrifici della popolazione greca, quando gli altri paesi continueranno a rispettare solo la tendenza verso i parametri. Credere quindi a tali valori di un eventuale taglio del nominale è da sprovveduti, e vendere ai prezzi attuali non credo sia conveniente.
Dire ce l'eventuale taglio sarà almeno del 50% è semplicemente ridicolo. Un taglio di tale valore, ripeto, significa che la Grecia raggiungerà i parametri di Maastricht con una cura da cavallo, nonostante gli attuali enormi sacrifici della popolazione greca, quando gli altri paesi continueranno a rispettare solo la tendenza verso i parametri. Credere quindi a tali valori di un eventuale taglio del nominale è da sprovveduti, e vendere ai prezzi attuali non credo sia conveniente.
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Greek Banks Post Losses Of 10% In The Last Six Sessions
The Athens Stock Exchange declined for a sixth consecutive session, in the wake of Greece’s downgrade by S&P’s and amid scenarios and statements about a possible exit of the country from the single currency area.
Since Friday’s closure, the climate in the Greek market had already deteriorated after a German magazine Der Spiegel report, which triggered a new round of speculation and resulted in a further decline of Greek indices to new lows.
The rating action by Standard & Poor’s has piled up the pressure, forcing the General Index to record intraday losses of 2.36%, at 1,337.80 units, while banks had been falling by 4.20%.
At these levels, the market showed a mood to absorb the supply, mainly in bank shares, and along with the instant leap of Coca Cola 3E, helped the General Index to trim losses.
However, this reaction didn’t prevent another negative closure, with the General Index recording cumulative losses of 5.91% during the last six sessions. Banks’ losses for the same period amount to 10.23%.
"The S&P downgrade, coming on top of recent rumours about Greece leaving the eurozone, have crushed the market," a local trader told Dow Jones Newswires. "The market is at really, tragically low levels. We haven΄t seen these kinds of levels in a decade. Basically the market has priced in a default", he added.
The domestic market will now seek new levels of support, but this course is expected to be rather “adventurous” as long as the market remains prey to rumours and the news flow doesn’t improve.
Across the board, the General Index ended at 1,349.91 units, with losses of 1.47%. Approximately 30.27 million units worth €110.23 million were traded on Monday, while a total amount of 123 shares declined, 132 remained unchanged and 26 rose.
Banking index ended at 959.75 units, down 2.79%, with all of its shares in negative territory. FTSE20 closed at 600.91 units, down 2.17%.
Coca-Cola 3E stood out with profits of 3.90%, while Mytilineos and Hellenic Petroleum gained 1.39% and 1.16% respectively. Hellenic Telecoms fell by 5.14%, while Ellaktor and National Bank declined by 4.76% and 4.07% respectively.
(capital.gr)
The Athens Stock Exchange declined for a sixth consecutive session, in the wake of Greece’s downgrade by S&P’s and amid scenarios and statements about a possible exit of the country from the single currency area.
Since Friday’s closure, the climate in the Greek market had already deteriorated after a German magazine Der Spiegel report, which triggered a new round of speculation and resulted in a further decline of Greek indices to new lows.
The rating action by Standard & Poor’s has piled up the pressure, forcing the General Index to record intraday losses of 2.36%, at 1,337.80 units, while banks had been falling by 4.20%.
At these levels, the market showed a mood to absorb the supply, mainly in bank shares, and along with the instant leap of Coca Cola 3E, helped the General Index to trim losses.
However, this reaction didn’t prevent another negative closure, with the General Index recording cumulative losses of 5.91% during the last six sessions. Banks’ losses for the same period amount to 10.23%.
"The S&P downgrade, coming on top of recent rumours about Greece leaving the eurozone, have crushed the market," a local trader told Dow Jones Newswires. "The market is at really, tragically low levels. We haven΄t seen these kinds of levels in a decade. Basically the market has priced in a default", he added.
The domestic market will now seek new levels of support, but this course is expected to be rather “adventurous” as long as the market remains prey to rumours and the news flow doesn’t improve.
Across the board, the General Index ended at 1,349.91 units, with losses of 1.47%. Approximately 30.27 million units worth €110.23 million were traded on Monday, while a total amount of 123 shares declined, 132 remained unchanged and 26 rose.
Banking index ended at 959.75 units, down 2.79%, with all of its shares in negative territory. FTSE20 closed at 600.91 units, down 2.17%.
Coca-Cola 3E stood out with profits of 3.90%, while Mytilineos and Hellenic Petroleum gained 1.39% and 1.16% respectively. Hellenic Telecoms fell by 5.14%, while Ellaktor and National Bank declined by 4.76% and 4.07% respectively.
(capital.gr)
tommy271
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Borsa Atene: Ase chiude a -1,5% dopo downgrade S&P
MILANO (MF-DJ)--L'indice Ase della Borsa di Atene termina una seduta dai volumi scarsi (109,76 mln euro) in ribasso dell'1,5% a quota 1349,91 punti, penalizzato dal downgrade di S&P.
In territorio negativo National Bank a -4,1%, Opap a -3,7%, Ote a -5,1% e Ppc a -3,6%.
"Il downgrade di S&P, che segue le recenti indiscrezioni circa l'uscita della Grecia dall'eurozona, ha avuto un forte impatto negativo sul mercato greco", motiva un trader locale.
MILANO (MF-DJ)--L'indice Ase della Borsa di Atene termina una seduta dai volumi scarsi (109,76 mln euro) in ribasso dell'1,5% a quota 1349,91 punti, penalizzato dal downgrade di S&P.
In territorio negativo National Bank a -4,1%, Opap a -3,7%, Ote a -5,1% e Ppc a -3,6%.
"Il downgrade di S&P, che segue le recenti indiscrezioni circa l'uscita della Grecia dall'eurozona, ha avuto un forte impatto negativo sul mercato greco", motiva un trader locale.
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