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cangiante

Forumer attivo
grazie Mark,
Ogni tanto mi soffermo sul michelin 2033 ma il rapporto che hai postato non mi pare esattamente incoraggiante.
In compenso le notizie su valeo sembrerebbero meno peggiori rispetto alle mie aspettative.
mi sono nel contempo accorto di un bond della bosch presente su onvista, che pero' ha taglio minimo 50.000 euro...
 

Imark

Forumer storico
grazie Mark,
Ogni tanto mi soffermo sul michelin 2033 ma il rapporto che hai postato non mi pare esattamente incoraggiante.
In compenso le notizie su valeo sembrerebbero meno peggiori rispetto alle mie aspettative.
mi sono nel contempo accorto di un bond della bosch presente su onvista, che pero' ha taglio minimo 50.000 euro...

Vedi, qualche volta mi si fa notare di dare poche "dritte" su titoli ... ;) in realtà, se mi si chiede una opinione su di un tema la esprimo sempre, ammesso che mi ritenga documentato a sufficienza da formarmene una...

Però devo dire che trovo molto più stimolante un approccio quale quello che discende dalle tue considerazioni, ossia: ragionare sugli elementi disponibili, dopo essersi documentati... ;)

In effetti, è una questione anche di speculatività dell'investimento, ma le tue valutazioni hanno un solido fondo di buon senso... :D
 

Imark

Forumer storico
grazie Mark,
Ogni tanto mi soffermo sul michelin 2033 ma il rapporto che hai postato non mi pare esattamente incoraggiante.
In compenso le notizie su valeo sembrerebbero meno peggiori rispetto alle mie aspettative.
mi sono nel contempo accorto di un bond della bosch presente su onvista, che pero' ha taglio minimo 50.000 euro...

Già che ci siamo, segnalo che su Michelin c'è anche un nuovo bond ...

XS0424686573 8.625% Michelin Finance 24/04/2014 peraltro in tagli da 1k... però c'è il solito problema dei bond nuovi ... il 2033 lo considererei in sola ottica di trading, per ovvie ragioni ...
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Volvo taglia ancora oltre 1500 dipendenti, per un totale di 15.000 dipendenti da settembre 2008 ... il forecast del calo delle vendite di veicoli industriali in Europa per il 2009 è per Volvo pari al 40% sul 2008. DAl WSJ online...

  • APRIL 22, 2009, 6:52 A.M. ET
Sweden's Volvo Slashes 1,500 More Jobs

By OLA KINNANDER

STOCKHOLM -- Sweden's AB Volvo, which in recent months has dismissed thousands of workers in a bid to cut costs, Wednesday said it was laying off 1,543 more workers in Sweden.

The truck maker -- which since September has laid off about 15,000 workers, about half of those in Sweden -- cited a "sharp decline on world markets for heavy vehicles."

Volvo's truck division, the world's largest truck maker by sales after Daimler AG, is giving notice to 655 employees. The construction-equipment unit is laying off 125 workers and 100 consultants.

Volvo Penta, which makes boat engines, is dismissing 108 employees. The powertrain division, which coordinates Volvo's engine-related operations, is laying off 655 workers.

Volvo Chief Executive Leif Johansson said last month that the demand for trucks has had "an incredibly weak start to the year." He said he thinks the industry's total sales of heavy trucks in Europe will fall about 40% this year.

Volvo is due to report first-quarter earnings on Friday. Eleven analysts polled by Dow Jones and FactSet on average forecast it will post a net loss of 2.75 billion Swedish kronor ($323 million).
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Ulteriori anticipazioni circa il primo trimestre da Volkswagen e da Peugeot.

La prima indica un calo delle vendite auto del 15,7%, del fatturato dell'11,2% e della produzione del 24%. Il trimestre si è chiuso in nero per effetto dei proventi generati dalla vendita di attività in Brasile.

Peugeot indica un calo del fatturato nell'ordine del 25% (crollano le vendite in paesi dove non sono stati varati incentivi, quali Spagna o UK, crescono o tengono dove invece gli incentivi ci sono). Nel 2009, si attende un calo complessivo del mercato auto pari al 25%.

La produzione è stata tagliata del 39%, così da poter ridurre le giacenze di auto invendute del 21% rispetto ad un anno fa.

Volkswagen, Peugeot hit by sharp drop in demand

Volatile markets leave outlook unclear, Peugeot still forecasting 2009 loss

By Simon Kennedy, MarketWatch
Last update: 6:38 a.m. EDT April 22, 2009


LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Volkswagen and Peugeot, Europe's two biggest car makers by volume, both reported sharp falls in vehicle sales and production Wednesday as they battled against tumbling global demand.

The pair also said it was hard to give accurate predictions for the rest of 2009 due to high volatility, though Peugeot said it continues to expect an overall loss for the year.

Volkswagen said net profit for the first quarter dropped 74% to 243 million euros ($314 million) from 929 million euros and operating profit fell 76% to 312 million euros.

It had previously forecast a loss for the quarter, but the sale of a Brazilian business added around 600 million euros to the operating profit. The German group said vehicle sales fell 15.7% to 1.35 million units and revenue fell 11.2% to 24 billion euros. The decline in production was even bigger at around 24%.

"Although we assume that the Volkswagen Group will be unable to escape the downward trend, we believe that it will perform better than the market as a whole and will be able to gain additional market share," Volkswagen said.

It added it can't make any reliable profit forecast for the rest of the year, other than that earnings will not reach the levels of previous years.
Shares in the group edged up 1% in Frankfurt after the announcement.

Peugeot shares, meanwhile, dropped around 1% after its sales figures missed expectations. The stock has dropped over 60% in the last 12 months as the global economic slowdown has caused demand for new cars to slump.

The group said sales fell 25% to 10.97 billion euros from 14.62 billion euros a year earlier. Analysts had on average been forecasting sales of around 11.5 billion euros for the quarter.

The group, which didn't provide profit figures for the latest quarter, said government incentive programs that pay customers for scrapping old cars have had a beneficial impact, especially in Germany where demand rose 15%.

But sales in other countries without an incentive program have slumped, with overall demand in the U.K. down 32% and Spain collapsing 44%. Peugeot said it therefore still expects the overall European car market to shrink by 20% in 2009.

To cope with the sharp downturn in the market, Peugeot said it's focusing on shrinking its inventory of unsold cars. Production levels were slashed by 39% in the first quarter, which helped the car maker reduce inventories by around 21% compared to a year earlier.

New payment terms to suppliers have also hurt free cash flow during the quarter, though the group said it has been able to partly offset the decline through its inventory cuts.
 

yellow

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Ulteriori anticipazioni circa il primo trimestre da Volkswagen e da Peugeot.

La prima indica un calo delle vendite auto del 15,7%, del fatturato dell'11,2% e della produzione del 24%. Il trimestre si è chiuso in nero per effetto dei proventi generati dalla vendita di attività in Brasile.

Peugeot indica un calo del fatturato nell'ordine del 25% (crollano le vendite in paesi dove non sono stati varati incentivi, quali Spagna o UK, crescono o tengono dove invece gli incentivi ci sono). Nel 2009, si attende un calo complessivo del mercato auto pari al 25%.

La produzione è stata tagliata del 39%, così da poter ridurre le giacenze di auto invendute del 21% rispetto ad un anno fa.

Volkswagen, Peugeot hit by sharp drop in demand

Volatile markets leave outlook unclear, Peugeot still forecasting 2009 loss

By Simon Kennedy, MarketWatch
Last update: 6:38 a.m. EDT April 22, 2009


LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Volkswagen and Peugeot, Europe's two biggest car makers by volume, both reported sharp falls in vehicle sales and production Wednesday as they battled against tumbling global demand.

The pair also said it was hard to give accurate predictions for the rest of 2009 due to high volatility, though Peugeot said it continues to expect an overall loss for the year.

Volkswagen said net profit for the first quarter dropped 74% to 243 million euros ($314 million) from 929 million euros and operating profit fell 76% to 312 million euros.

It had previously forecast a loss for the quarter, but the sale of a Brazilian business added around 600 million euros to the operating profit. The German group said vehicle sales fell 15.7% to 1.35 million units and revenue fell 11.2% to 24 billion euros. The decline in production was even bigger at around 24%.

"Although we assume that the Volkswagen Group will be unable to escape the downward trend, we believe that it will perform better than the market as a whole and will be able to gain additional market share," Volkswagen said.

It added it can't make any reliable profit forecast for the rest of the year, other than that earnings will not reach the levels of previous years.
Shares in the group edged up 1% in Frankfurt after the announcement.

Peugeot shares, meanwhile, dropped around 1% after its sales figures missed expectations. The stock has dropped over 60% in the last 12 months as the global economic slowdown has caused demand for new cars to slump.

The group said sales fell 25% to 10.97 billion euros from 14.62 billion euros a year earlier. Analysts had on average been forecasting sales of around 11.5 billion euros for the quarter.

The group, which didn't provide profit figures for the latest quarter, said government incentive programs that pay customers for scrapping old cars have had a beneficial impact, especially in Germany where demand rose 15%.

But sales in other countries without an incentive program have slumped, with overall demand in the U.K. down 32% and Spain collapsing 44%. Peugeot said it therefore still expects the overall European car market to shrink by 20% in 2009.

To cope with the sharp downturn in the market, Peugeot said it's focusing on shrinking its inventory of unsold cars. Production levels were slashed by 39% in the first quarter, which helped the car maker reduce inventories by around 21% compared to a year earlier.

New payment terms to suppliers have also hurt free cash flow during the quarter, though the group said it has been able to partly offset the decline through its inventory cuts.

GB. oggi ha annunciato che sta programmando incentivi di
2.000 Sterline per ogni veicolo con almeno 10 anni di vita.
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Toyota first-quarter global sales fall 27 percent

TOKYO (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp (Tokyo:7203.T - News) said on Thursday its group-wide sales fell 27 percent to 1.767 million vehicles in the first quarter of 2009, keeping it ahead of Volkswagen AG (XETRA:VOWG.DE - News) as the world's top-selling carmaker.
Toyota was expected to be in a tight race with the German automaker in the January-March quarter, when the Japanese giant suffered double-digit percentage drops in its three biggest markets of the United States, Japan and China.
For the parent company only, which excludes trucks and cars sold by subsidiaries Hino Motors Ltd (Tokyo:7205.T - News) and Daihatsu Motor Co (Tokyo:7262.T - News), Toyota sales fell 28 percent to 1.53 million vehicles.
Volkswagen delivered 1.4 million vehicles during the quarter, down 11 percent, which increased its share of the global passenger car market by 130 basis points to 11.0 percent, the automaker said. The tally does not include sales at Porsche (XETRA:PSHG-P.DE - News), which owns 51 percent of Volkswagen.
The gap in group-wide sales between Toyota and Volkswagen shrank to 363,000 vehicles in the January-March quarter from 840,000 a year earlier.
The German automaker, with nine brands including Audi (XETRA:NSUG.DE - News), Skoda and Seat, is aiming to surpass Toyota and General Motors Corp (NYSE:GM - News) as the world's No.1 seller by 2018.
Toyota is suffering from collapsing demand in its two biggest markets -- the United States and Japan -- while Volkswagen enjoys growth in its main markets of China, Germany and Brazil, where state-backed incentives are driving sales.
Toyota's sales may be boosted, however, by an incentive Japan is expected to launch this month for older cars to be scrapped and replaced with new ones in a program styled after Germany's stimulus.
The United States is mulling a similar scheme.
(Reporting by Chang-Ran Kim; Editing by Michael Watson)


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Toyota-firstquarter-global-rb-15006676.html?.v=1
 

Imark

Forumer storico
Se Maometto non va alla montagna... impelagata oramai da anni nella faticosa scalata al 75% di Volkswagen, e finanziariamente esausta nello sforzo intrapreso, Porsche, che controlla oggi il 50% di VW, mirerebbe ad ottenere un miglioramento del proprio profilo finanziario attraverso una operazione che porterebbe VW a lanciare un bid per l'acquisto delle attività automobilistiche di Porsche, così che l'obiettivo di guadagnare accesso al cash in pancia a VW verrebbe conseguito per questa via, mentre la scalata al 75% di VW da parte di Porsche (che pure avrebbe portato al medesimo risultato, facendo di VW una società "captive" pienamente incorporata nel gruppo Porsche) viene dilazionata nel tempo.

E' la tesi del FT, che apre (per chi credesse alla realizzabilità dello scenario) talune opportunità di tipo speculativo su alcuni titoli delle due case, anche considerato che Porsche è in attesa di ottenere il rating richiesto alle agenzie... ;)

VW ponders bold reverse bid for Porsche

By Daniel Schäfer in Frankfurt

Published: April 23 2009 03:00 | Last updated: April 23 2009 03:00

Volkswagen is considering an audacious bid for Porsche's automotive business, in another extraordinary twist in the corporate saga surrounding Germany's most famous car dynasty.

Several people close to the situation said VW's management was weighing up the option of buying Porsche AG, in a move that would bring relief to the highly indebted parent Porsche SE holding company.

This would turn upside down Porsche's audacious takeover of VW, which started 3½ years ago. VW is Europe's largest car company, with turnover roughly 15 times as great as Porsche's.

"The tail would finally stop wagging the dog," said a person familiar with the thinking of VW's management.

Wendelin Wiedeking, Porsche's chief executive, has repeatedly locked horns with VW's management and works council. The plan emerged as shareholders were set to convene at VW's annual meeting today. The move would allow Ferdinand Piëch, grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, founder and designer of the VW Beetle, to integrate the sports carmaker into VW as its tenth marque and finalise his task of reuniting his family heritage.

The Porsche and Piëch families jointly own Porsche SE,as well as 50.76 per cent of VW's shares. The holding company would keep the VW stake after such a deal.

The price, which is facing obstacles and could still be dropped in favour of another solution, came after Porsche had said it had net debt of €9bn ($12bn). Analysts have argued that Porsche could run into difficulties servicing its debt.

Porsche, which said it was un-aware of the takeover plans, said the €280m it was to receive in VW dividends and its operating profit would be enough to make its interest payments this year.

Porsche has reaped huge profits in past years from controversial VW option trades. It made €6.8bn, more than double its revenue, from its VW takeover in the past six months alone. But analysts said most of these profits were paper gains and could not be easily converted into cash.

Arndt Ellinghorst, analyst at Credit Suisse, said it would be the most logical solution to use VW's €10.7bn net cash from its automotive division to buy the sports car business.

People close to the situation warned the plan was still facing many obstacles, such as the question of Porsche's valuation. Estimates vary from €6bn to €9bn.

VW profits fall 74%


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