Imark
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Ti propongo come arbitro internazionale...
Comandante, con il suo permesso, io avrei abbandonato l'aereo...
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Comandante, con il suo permesso, io avrei abbandonato l'aereo...
Imark
Forumer storico
Comandante, con il suo permesso, io avrei abbandonato l'aereo...
Quindi posto ancora un po' solo per vedere come va a finire... intanto, sono uscito un filo troppo presto, o almeno così pare... ma mi serviva accrescere la liquidità per altre operazioni, per cui...
Tedeschi: 106,50/75; Francesi 105,20 (di media)... spread forse in lieve allargamento (vedremo a fine giornata), ma per ora attorno ai 130 bp...
Chiusura... tedeschi attrno a 106,50/60 (di media); francesi 105,10/15 (di media) segnalo sul bond Air France KLM che sul MOT qualcuno si è fatto infinocchiare comprando a 106,41, un prezzo decisamente da amatore... Comandante, se gliele hai vendute tu, paghi da bere a tutti...
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Comandante Gerard
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Comandante, con il suo permesso, io avrei abbandonato l'aereo...
Permesso accordato...
Il comandante però non può lasciare la cabina e continua in mezzo alle turbolenze...
Ogni tanto aggiornerò io , sullo stato di volo... Ciao!
Comandante Gerard
Forumer storico
Quindi posto ancora un po' solo per vedere come va a finire... intanto, sono uscito un filo troppo presto, o almeno così pare... ma mi serviva accrescere la liquidità per altre operazioni, per cui...
Tedeschi: 106,50/75; Francesi 105,20 (di media)... spread forse in lieve allargamento (vedremo a fine giornata), ma per ora attorno ai 130 bp...
Chiusura... tedeschi attrno a 106,50/60 (di media); francesi 105,10/15 (di media) segnalo sul bond Air France KLM che sul MOT qualcuno si è fatto infinocchiare comprando a 106,41, un prezzo decisamente da amatore... Comandante, se gliele hai vendute tu, paghi da bere a tutti...
Purtroppo no... me ne sono accorto anch'io ora che sono rientrato... dev'essere qualcuno che ama decisamente "volare alto"..
Io continuo a pilotare.... per ora son tranquillo
Imark
Forumer storico
Rivisto leggermente al rialzo da Moody's il forecast sul traffico aeroportuale nel 2010.
Moody's: European Airport 2009 Traffic Performance on Track; 2010 Growth Likely Better than Projected
London, 24 November 2009 -- Most major European airports should perform as expected in 2009, and 2010 should see modestly higher growth than was anticipated in June 2009, says Moody's Investors Service in a new Special Comment, "European airport volumes -- 2009 experience and 2010 revised forecast for major European city airports".
In June 2009, Moody's set out its guidelines for traffic growth for the major European airport cities, which suggested a material but not severe decline in traffic volumes in 2009, followed by very little, if any, growth in 2010.
"Major city airports will perform within Moody's guidance for 2009, and will generally be at the bottom end of the anticipated traffic declines," says Andrew Blease, a Senior Vice President in Moody's Infrastructure Finance Group. "Furthermore, assuming that European and world economies do not see a further significant drop in demand or experience further major financial shocks, the major European airport cities are not likely to experience any meaningful further drops in passenger volumes over the next 1-2 years."
Moody's recognises that passenger numbers have generally held up better than flight volumes. "This reflects the significant cut backs in flights made by many airlines in Europe" explains Mr. Blease. "Nevertheless, the trend of both flight numbers and passenger numbers is similar across Europe as a whole."
Indeed, the total scheduled traffic volume changes are broadly in line with passenger volumes at European airports, with all routes, apart from Europe-Middle East flights, having similar patterns of decline. The Europe-Middle East traffic growth trends have been strongly positive throughout 2008 and 2009, and other traffic has seen only single-digit percentage declines.
Moody's also notes that low-cost carriers have continued to take European market share from the legacy carriers in 2009. In particular, Ryanair's growth has been exceptional over the past two years, which confirms its position as the largest airline in Europe by number of passengers boarded. As many low-cost carriers will endeavour to use secondary airports with lower aviation charges, the recent growth in the low-cost carrier market share should result in higher traffic volumes for many secondary airports.
Going forward, Moody's expects that passenger volume growth for major European airport cities in 2010 to be better than it originally projected in June 2009. This is due to improved 2010 growth projections for many western European economies as well as cautious projected volume growth by aviation market participants.
Thus, Moody's has revised its 2010 guidance to -1.0% to +4.0%, an improvement from its June 2009 guidance of -2.5% to +2.5%. This is a reasonable central case forecast, assuming a steady but modest recovery in the European economy. However, there remain material downside risks, as the forecast does not factor in the likelihood of a double-dip regional or global recession.
"It may take some time before airports see the year-on-year traffic volume increases that were experienced over the 1990s and in the first few years of the 21st century," cautions Mr. Blease. "However, the recent peak-to-trough experience will help to frame future downside traffic projections in Moody's analysis. Thus, the recent recession will be informative in framing a view of revenue risk for major European airport cities over the next few years."
Moody's: European Airport 2009 Traffic Performance on Track; 2010 Growth Likely Better than Projected
London, 24 November 2009 -- Most major European airports should perform as expected in 2009, and 2010 should see modestly higher growth than was anticipated in June 2009, says Moody's Investors Service in a new Special Comment, "European airport volumes -- 2009 experience and 2010 revised forecast for major European city airports".
In June 2009, Moody's set out its guidelines for traffic growth for the major European airport cities, which suggested a material but not severe decline in traffic volumes in 2009, followed by very little, if any, growth in 2010.
"Major city airports will perform within Moody's guidance for 2009, and will generally be at the bottom end of the anticipated traffic declines," says Andrew Blease, a Senior Vice President in Moody's Infrastructure Finance Group. "Furthermore, assuming that European and world economies do not see a further significant drop in demand or experience further major financial shocks, the major European airport cities are not likely to experience any meaningful further drops in passenger volumes over the next 1-2 years."
Moody's recognises that passenger numbers have generally held up better than flight volumes. "This reflects the significant cut backs in flights made by many airlines in Europe" explains Mr. Blease. "Nevertheless, the trend of both flight numbers and passenger numbers is similar across Europe as a whole."
Indeed, the total scheduled traffic volume changes are broadly in line with passenger volumes at European airports, with all routes, apart from Europe-Middle East flights, having similar patterns of decline. The Europe-Middle East traffic growth trends have been strongly positive throughout 2008 and 2009, and other traffic has seen only single-digit percentage declines.
Moody's also notes that low-cost carriers have continued to take European market share from the legacy carriers in 2009. In particular, Ryanair's growth has been exceptional over the past two years, which confirms its position as the largest airline in Europe by number of passengers boarded. As many low-cost carriers will endeavour to use secondary airports with lower aviation charges, the recent growth in the low-cost carrier market share should result in higher traffic volumes for many secondary airports.
Going forward, Moody's expects that passenger volume growth for major European airport cities in 2010 to be better than it originally projected in June 2009. This is due to improved 2010 growth projections for many western European economies as well as cautious projected volume growth by aviation market participants.
Thus, Moody's has revised its 2010 guidance to -1.0% to +4.0%, an improvement from its June 2009 guidance of -2.5% to +2.5%. This is a reasonable central case forecast, assuming a steady but modest recovery in the European economy. However, there remain material downside risks, as the forecast does not factor in the likelihood of a double-dip regional or global recession.
"It may take some time before airports see the year-on-year traffic volume increases that were experienced over the 1990s and in the first few years of the 21st century," cautions Mr. Blease. "However, the recent peak-to-trough experience will help to frame future downside traffic projections in Moody's analysis. Thus, the recent recession will be informative in framing a view of revenue risk for major European airport cities over the next few years."
Imark
Forumer storico
Quindi posto ancora un po' solo per vedere come va a finire... intanto, sono uscito un filo troppo presto, o almeno così pare... ma mi serviva accrescere la liquidità per altre operazioni, per cui...
Tedeschi: 106,50/75; Francesi 105,20 (di media)... spread forse in lieve allargamento (vedremo a fine giornata), ma per ora attorno ai 130 bp...
Chiusura... tedeschi attrno a 106,50/60 (di media); francesi 105,10/15 (di media) segnalo sul bond Air France KLM che sul MOT qualcuno si è fatto infinocchiare comprando a 106,41, un prezzo decisamente da amatore... Comandante, se gliele hai vendute tu, paghi da bere a tutti...
106,50/75 i tedeschi - 105,30 i francesi...
mostromarino
Guest
qualcuno,in alcuni forums
ipotizza come non irreale una fusione tra etihad(abudhabi..).con emirates..
chi incorporerebbe chi ??
...............
parzialmente connesso..per riflessi della cosa per airbus e boeing..
la situazione 380 di emirates
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SOURCE:Flight International
Emirates in A380 delivery hiatus from late 2010
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Details have emerged of Emirates' Airbus A380 delivery schedule over the next three years, which reveal that the airline has pushed back fleet expansion and will not receive any of the superjumbos for almost a year after the end of 2010.
Speaking at the Dubai air show, Jim Moravecek, outgoing president of the 50/50 General Electric/Pratt & Whitney joint venture Engine Alliance, said that Emirates, which is the lead GP7200-powered A380 customer, had delayed deliveries: "Emirates will take 15 A380s through next year, then defer for a little while."
An Engine Alliance chart showing fleet growth of the GP7200-powered A380 between the first delivery in 2008 and 2012 reveals that from mid-2010, when the Emirates fleet was due to reach 15 units, there are no deliveries for around 10 months. Since the chart was produced, Emirates has revealed that due to production hold-ups its A380 fleet will not reach 15 units until late 2010.
According to the chart, Emirates shipments then resume from around mid-2011 (a date that is also likely have moved to the right), with its fleet rapidly doubling over around 18 months to 30 aircraft by the end of 2012.
Emirates Airline president Tim Clark recently told Flight International the airline's A380 schedule beyond the first 15 deliveries "remains fluid". In response to the Engine Alliance data, Emirates says "we still have no firm delivery schedule from Airbus", but will not comment about whether it has deferred any aircraft.
Emirates has taken five A380s since its first arrived in July 2008. Its sixth, which is due before the end of November, is one of the ex-Airbus development airframes. Nine more deliveries are due through to late 2010.
Moravecek, who took over as Alliance president in mid-2008, is returning to P&W early to lead its advanced next-generation product family arm. He has been replaced by Mary Ellen Jones, who will see out the remainder of the three-year term.
Meanwhile, Emirates has brought forward the introduction of the A380 on the Dubai-Paris route, with plans to start services before the end of the year. It says the decision is due to an "operational review, coupled with demand on the route" as well as "earlier aircraft availability".
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...late-2010.html
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ipotizza come non irreale una fusione tra etihad(abudhabi..).con emirates..
chi incorporerebbe chi ??
...............
parzialmente connesso..per riflessi della cosa per airbus e boeing..
la situazione 380 di emirates
.................................................
SOURCE:Flight International
Emirates in A380 delivery hiatus from late 2010
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Details have emerged of Emirates' Airbus A380 delivery schedule over the next three years, which reveal that the airline has pushed back fleet expansion and will not receive any of the superjumbos for almost a year after the end of 2010.
Speaking at the Dubai air show, Jim Moravecek, outgoing president of the 50/50 General Electric/Pratt & Whitney joint venture Engine Alliance, said that Emirates, which is the lead GP7200-powered A380 customer, had delayed deliveries: "Emirates will take 15 A380s through next year, then defer for a little while."
An Engine Alliance chart showing fleet growth of the GP7200-powered A380 between the first delivery in 2008 and 2012 reveals that from mid-2010, when the Emirates fleet was due to reach 15 units, there are no deliveries for around 10 months. Since the chart was produced, Emirates has revealed that due to production hold-ups its A380 fleet will not reach 15 units until late 2010.
According to the chart, Emirates shipments then resume from around mid-2011 (a date that is also likely have moved to the right), with its fleet rapidly doubling over around 18 months to 30 aircraft by the end of 2012.
Emirates Airline president Tim Clark recently told Flight International the airline's A380 schedule beyond the first 15 deliveries "remains fluid". In response to the Engine Alliance data, Emirates says "we still have no firm delivery schedule from Airbus", but will not comment about whether it has deferred any aircraft.
Emirates has taken five A380s since its first arrived in July 2008. Its sixth, which is due before the end of November, is one of the ex-Airbus development airframes. Nine more deliveries are due through to late 2010.
Moravecek, who took over as Alliance president in mid-2008, is returning to P&W early to lead its advanced next-generation product family arm. He has been replaced by Mary Ellen Jones, who will see out the remainder of the three-year term.
Meanwhile, Emirates has brought forward the introduction of the A380 on the Dubai-Paris route, with plans to start services before the end of the year. It says the decision is due to an "operational review, coupled with demand on the route" as well as "earlier aircraft availability".
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...late-2010.html
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Imark
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106,40/60 i tedeschi ... 105,15 (di media) i francesi... spread ancora nella fascia di oscillazione 150-100 bp fra gli ask...
Imark
Forumer storico
qualcuno,in alcuni forums
ipotizza come non irreale una fusione tra etihad(abudhabi..).con emirates..
chi incorporerebbe chi ??
...............
parzialmente connesso..per riflessi della cosa per airbus e boeing..
la situazione 380 di emirates
.................................................
SOURCE:Flight International
Emirates in A380 delivery hiatus from late 2010
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Details have emerged of Emirates' Airbus A380 delivery schedule over the next three years, which reveal that the airline has pushed back fleet expansion and will not receive any of the superjumbos for almost a year after the end of 2010.
Speaking at the Dubai air show, Jim Moravecek, outgoing president of the 50/50 General Electric/Pratt & Whitney joint venture Engine Alliance, said that Emirates, which is the lead GP7200-powered A380 customer, had delayed deliveries: "Emirates will take 15 A380s through next year, then defer for a little while."
An Engine Alliance chart showing fleet growth of the GP7200-powered A380 between the first delivery in 2008 and 2012 reveals that from mid-2010, when the Emirates fleet was due to reach 15 units, there are no deliveries for around 10 months. Since the chart was produced, Emirates has revealed that due to production hold-ups its A380 fleet will not reach 15 units until late 2010.
According to the chart, Emirates shipments then resume from around mid-2011 (a date that is also likely have moved to the right), with its fleet rapidly doubling over around 18 months to 30 aircraft by the end of 2012.
Emirates Airline president Tim Clark recently told Flight International the airline's A380 schedule beyond the first 15 deliveries "remains fluid". In response to the Engine Alliance data, Emirates says "we still have no firm delivery schedule from Airbus", but will not comment about whether it has deferred any aircraft.
Emirates has taken five A380s since its first arrived in July 2008. Its sixth, which is due before the end of November, is one of the ex-Airbus development airframes. Nine more deliveries are due through to late 2010.
Moravecek, who took over as Alliance president in mid-2008, is returning to P&W early to lead its advanced next-generation product family arm. He has been replaced by Mary Ellen Jones, who will see out the remainder of the three-year term.
Meanwhile, Emirates has brought forward the introduction of the A380 on the Dubai-Paris route, with plans to start services before the end of the year. It says the decision is due to an "operational review, coupled with demand on the route" as well as "earlier aircraft availability".
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...late-2010.html
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Mi sembra ancora un po' vaga, la faccenda ... cmq non sono da escludere fughe dal paradiso fiscale... tu li porteresti i tuoi capitali in un paese governato da una monarchia assoluta che si comporta con i creditori come i regnanti europei del rinascimento facevano con i banchieri fiorentino quando non avevano soldi, ossia dicendo loro: "ripassate fra 6 mesi" ?
Io francamente no... prevedo molti voli di sola andata dagli Emirati e da Dubai verso altre destinazioni...
mostromarino
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Mi sembra ancora un po' vaga, la faccenda ... cmq non sono da escludere fughe dal paradiso fiscale... tu li porteresti i tuoi capitali in un paese governato da una monarchia assoluta che si comporta con i creditori come i regnanti europei del rinascimento facevano con i banchieri fiorentino quando non avevano soldi, ossia dicendo loro: "ripassate fra 6 mesi" ?
Io francamente no... prevedo molti voli di sola andata dagli Emirati e da Dubai verso altre destinazioni...
l`articolo linkato non l`ho preso come base..eran due cose staccate
riportavo solo "voci di forumisti " che lavorano in ambito aereoportuale
in zona
attenzione a non parlarmi dii banchieri fiorentini
la famiglia di mia mamma ^finanzio`la guerra dei centanni
e mio bisnonno faceva il carrettiere,come conseguenza
a domanda retorica precisa...penso con dolore
a dei miei amici luganesi..che hanno aperto la filiale della loro banca a dubai,con grandi trombe,di recente
abbastanza di recente
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