Portafogli e Strategie (investimento) Dal Flight to Quality all'HY: nove mesi "after-Lehman", is debt back ? (vol. V) (1 Viewer)

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Imark

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Un problema che i mercati considerano in misura ancora non sempre adeguata è quello della relazione fra l'esigenza di contenimento della spesa pubblica generato dalla crisi del merito di credito sovereign in Europa (con le sue conseguenze sulla crescita dei mercati interni) ed il merito di credito del corporate europeo più radicato sui mercati domestici.

In prospettiva di lungo termine, potrebbe rendersi problematico l'accesso al funding sui mercati (specie, IMHO, ove si assistesse ad una crescita generalizzata dei costi di finanziamento dei paesi periferici di Eurolandia).

Nel breve medio termine, le politiche di consolidamento inciderebbero soprattutto, secondo Moody's, su quei comparti già indeboliti dalla crisi, come il settore dell'edilizia in Spagna e quello finanziario in UK...

Moody's: Continued sovereign weakness to challenge European corporate credit quality in 2010

London, 12 April 2010 -- The circular relationship between sovereign credit quality and corporate weakness will remain in focus throughout 2010 and beyond as European economies slowly work themselves out of recession, Moody's Investors Service says in a new Special Comment. For the short to medium term, Moody's foresees the main sovereign-related risks for corporate debt issuers in the EMEA region as being increased volatility, lower growth and tightening of fiscal and monetary policies. In the long term, the most significant threat could be access to funding. In any case, the sovereign risks to corporates mentioned in the report have been factored into our existing ratings.

"Moody's expects sovereign credit quality uncertainty and weakness to prevail throughout 2010, with repercussions for corporates. However, to what extent the sovereign crisis is a driver of corporate weakness or whether, conversely, the weakness of an economy or some industries has led to pressure on the sovereign is difficult to pinpoint," says Jean-Michel Carayon, a Moody's Senior Vice-President and co-author of the report. "What is clear is that non-financial corporates are more exposed in those countries where their performance is already weak, which in turn can affect the sovereign performance. The financial industry in the UK and the construction industry in Spain are examples of this circular relationship," Mr Carayon adds.

Moody's explains that the impact of sovereign weakness on corporate credit quality can be both direct and indirect. It can be direct as a result of being linked through ownership or public policy mandates, and as such, the credit quality or assigned rating is pegged to the credit quality or rating of the government. If the sovereign credit quality shifts, chances are there will be a direct movement in the credit quality or rating of the related corporate. Indirect consequences may be less obvious but warrant examination and are discussed in detail in Moody's report.

"Indeed, the indirect impact of a sluggish economic recovery, which continues to be our anticipated scenario, remains a concern. Slow GDP growth and depressed consumer confidence, cuts in government spending, tax hikes, an increase in the cost of funding and more volatility are all sovereign-related hurdles that corporate debt issuers have to navigate," explains Lola Cavanilles, a Moody's Analyst and report co-author.

Moody's report also focuses on those corporate entities that it classifies as government-related issuers (GRIs), of which it rates 146 in EMEA. "At this juncture, we anticipate that the direct effect of selected sovereign weakness on GRI ratings will be minimal, especially in countries such as Portugal, Ireland, Greece or Spain, where few GRI corporates access the debt capital markets," Ms Cavanilles adds.
 

EUGE

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1) a fine anno arriva il rialzo dei tassi :-?:-?:-?:-?:-?

:rolleyes: forse dovremo rileggerci Il deserto dei Tartari :rolleyes:


2) prevedete un qualche effetto GS sull'high yeld :-?

:ciao:
 

Imark

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1) a fine anno arriva il rialzo dei tassi :-?:-?:-?:-?:-?

:rolleyes: forse dovremo rileggerci Il deserto dei Tartari :rolleyes:


2) prevedete un qualche effetto GS sull'high yeld :-?

:ciao:

1) Più o meno, da quanto appare adesso... e fra fine anno e primo trimestre del prossimo dovremmo fare il bottom di questo ciclo breve dell'HY, sempre da quanto pare cominciarsi a capire... il mercato tende a muoversi prima, poi magari non è detto che le cose vadano così, ma insomma...

2) di GS sull'equity sì, vediamo cosa succede nei prossimi giorni sull'HY... dovesse stornare, sarebbe una conferma che non manca tanto alla fine di questa fase, mentre una sua tenuta sarebbe indicativa di una maggiore durata di questa fase di caccia al rendimento e di tolleranza per il rischio...
 

Imark

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Contagio greco su tutto il fronte speculativo: HY corporate, perpetual (tutte, non solo quelle disastrate, anche se più forte su queste ultime) oltre che, ovviamente, equity.

Se risolvono, guadagnano ancora qualche settimana al "debt is back", se non risolvono, chiuderemo questo 3D ed apriremo quello sull'estate di San Martino del debito... :-o
 

Imark

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Per chi comprende l'inglese e capisce qualcosa di economia, i 75 minuti dellla conferenza del Milken Institute sono tempo ben speso...

Come al solito gli interventi di Roubini sono i più illuminanti, e chi segue la situazione greca noterà che quanto si è detto in sede di analisi del recente downgrade da parte di S&P e delle attuali strategie di Grecia e Germania trova conferma in parole chiarissime da parte di Roubini, lucidissimo nella sua esposizione.

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/events/gcprogram.taf?function=detail&EvID=2257&eventid=GC10

Milken Institute Events - Global Conference 2010
 
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Imark

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Mi voglio sbilanciare, e direi che grosso modo potremmo essere all'ultimo passaggio qui: i rendimenti sulle nuove emissioni HY sono tornati sui minimi storici pre-bolla, la liquidità da credito erogato e cartolarizzato continua ad essere fortemente contratta dopo oltre un anno di tassi bassissimi e la liquidità "di surrogazione" erogata dalle banche centrali attraverso la forte estensione dei repo comincia ad essere un po' contenuta, quella erogata tramite l'espansione dei deficit pubblici ha visto nella vicenda greca un primo turning point.

Sulla liquidità derivante dall'erogazione di credito, la cartina di tornasole continua ad essere quella della commerical paper asset backed (che segnala appunta l'intensità dei livelli di cartolarizzazione, e dunque, a monte, di erogazione del credito) e, per gli USA, la situazione è quella che vedete emergere dai due link qui sotto...

La CP asset backed ha fatto picco prima della crisi a 2.200 mld USD

The Contraction of the U.S. Commercial Paper Markets -- Seeking Alpha

Oggi, nonostante l'enorme sforzo degli stati nel pompare liquidità ed i tassi ai minimi, la CP asset backed negli USA si è attestata a fine aprile 2010 a 395 mld USD, in continuo calo finora dal 2007 e appena comincia a mostrare qualche leggero segnale di stabilizzazione.

FRB: Commercial Paper Outstandings

Qualcuno di voi dirà che al posto del credito erogato da banche e da istituzioni finanziarie (normalmente destinato alla cartolarizzazione) ci sono i corporate bond, almeno per gli emittenti che hanno accesso al mercato obbligazionario.

In parte é vero (solo in parte, perché individui e piccole o medie imprese non hanno certo accesso al mercato obbligazionario, e quindi la minore liquidità per loro disponibile non è rimpiazzabile per altre vie), in parte però questo credito - proprio in quanto espresso in titoli quotati sui mercati obbligazionari - da l'impressione di essere meno "stabile" anche rispetto alla sua disponibilità (si pensi al rischio di avere fasi di sostanziale chiusura dei mercati alle nuove emissioni, come quella che per l'HY europeo durò da agosto 2007 fino al febbraio 2009), per non parlare del discorso dei rendimenti, assunta peraltro la molto maggiore facilità di prendere posizioni ribassiste su questi titoli di debito attraverso i CDS ed in generale gli strumenti derivati rispetto ai CDOs' bonds ed alle altre emissioni frutto delle cartolarizzazioni.

Sulla vicenda greca si è messa una pezza per evitare una deflagrazione "Lehman style", ma è ora legittimo chiedersi quanto possa durare, sempre ammesso che nessuno si tiri indietro rispetto al risultato raggiunto (a partire dal parlamento tedesco per finire alla Grecia).

Sempre sull'HY, le agenzie cominciano ad indicare il bottom di ciclo del ritorno del debito fra la fine del 2010 e l'inizio del 2011...

Insomma, le nespole dei rendimenti sull'HY parrebbero oramai definitivamente mature... attenzione a non farle marcire sull'albero... ;)

Anticipo che ove si dovessero vedere nei prossimi giorni fenomeni di risalita dei rendimenti su altri TdS per situzioni analoghe a quella greca, provvederò a chiudere il 3D e ad aprire quello sulla nuova inversione del ciclo...

Red alert flashing...
 
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dagoweb

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...money-for-first-time-since-2008-update1-.html

Emerging Debt Losing Money for First Time Since 2008 (Update1)

May 06, 2010, 7:19 AM EDT
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  • By Michael Patterson and Denis Maternovsky
May 6 (Bloomberg) -- Russia may have been the last developing nation to tap record-low bond yields as the spreading Greek financial crisis makes emerging-market bonds unprofitable for the first time since 2008.
The EMBI+ Index of debt from Brazil to the Philippines fell 0.7 percent since March, heading for the first quarterly decline since the period ended December 2008, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co. Russia’s five-year Eurobonds tumbled 3 percent from their issue price two weeks ago and governments from the Czech Republic to Albania and Indonesia delayed debt sales.
While investors pour record amounts into emerging-market bond funds, yields are rising as the European Union’s bailout of Greece spurs concern the global recovery will slow and cut demand for riskier assets. Argentina may pay 11 percent yields on dollar bonds this year, higher than its 10 percent target, according to Aberdeen Asset Management Plc. Ukraine may face costs as high as 7.75 percent on five-year debt compared with the 7.5 percent yields on existing bonds, Union Investment said.
Investors are ending the “denial phase in debt markets,” said Jeremy Brewin, head of developing-nation bonds at Aviva Investors in London, which oversees about $377 billion. Predictions that “emerging markets have evolved a new resilience capable of avoiding these selloffs are being challenged” and “may lead to a major reversal from the confident highs of two weeks ago,” Brewin said.
$753 Billion Maturing
The retreat is raising interest costs as governments and companies in emerging markets plan to borrow at least $39 billion on top of the $234 billion sold so far in 2010, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. More than $753 billion of developing-country debt matures in the second, third and fourth quarters of 2010, the data show.
The average yield on emerging-market bonds, which moves inversely to prices, rose to 6.51 percent yesterday from a record low of 6.18 percent on April 15, when China reported the fastest economic growth in almost three years. Developing-nation debt fell today, losing 0.2 percent at 11:43 a.m. in London, according to the EMBI+ Index. The extra yield investors demand to own the securities over Treasuries dropped three basis points to 2.92 percentage points as U.S. government bond yields rose.
The gap may widen to 3.5 percentage points before money managers increase holdings, according to Nigel Rendell, senior emerging markets strategist at RBC Capital Markets in London.
Growing prospects that Greece may default raised concern that Spain and Portugal will struggle to pay debt as well. Standard & Poor’s lowered its ranking for Spanish debt one step to AA on April 28. S&P also lowered Greece three levels last week to the junk grade of BB+, and Portugal by two steps to A-.
Greek Contagion
“It’s not the best time for emerging-market countries to sell bonds,” said Regis Chatellier, a strategist for developing-nation debt at Morgan Stanley in London. “The Greek crisis is a big factor, and it’s going to be much more volatile in emerging markets than it was over the past few months.”
Yields on Ukraine’s international debt jumped 70 basis points since April 15 to 7.32 percent, according to JPMorgan’s index for the country. Ukraine may sell Eurobonds in mid-June, Deputy Finance Minister Andriy Kravets said April 23.
Poland, which is holding a presidential election in June after the death of President Lech Kaczynski last month, may issue about $1 billion of dollar bonds this month “at the earliest,” Deputy Finance Minister Dominik Radziwill said on April 23. Yields on Poland’s 6.375 percent dollar bonds due July 2019 have climbed 47 basis points since this year’s low on March 11 to 5.22 percent, according to Bloomberg data.
Albania
Albania is “monitoring the markets” to choose the “best timing” for the debut bond in euros that it planned to sell by the end of April, Deputy Finance Minister Nezir Haldeda said in a phone interview yesterday.
The Czech government delayed its planned sale of at least 1 billion euros of international bonds, Deputy Finance Minister Ivan Fuksa said in an interview on April 28. Yields on the Czech Republic’s 4.5 percent Eurobonds due November 2014 have climbed 16 basis points since April 16 to 2.99 percent.
“It’s quite probable that the conditions won’t get as good for the Czech Eurobond later this year as they were around mid- April,” said Michal Brozka, a Raiffeisenbank AS analyst in Prague.
Indonesia, Southeast Asia’s biggest economy, delayed a planned sale of 100 billion yen ($1.1 billion) of Samurai bonds as average yields for the country’s debt added 12 basis points since April 15, according to three people familiar with the matter. The government had planned to sell the debt by June, and a new schedule isn’t set yet, said the people. Finance Ministry spokesman Harry Z. Soeratin declined to comment.
‘Market Was Gone’
Argentina wants to issue seven-year bonds this month as part of its offer to exchange about $20 billion in defaulted securities and return to international capital markets for the first time since 2001. Argentina faces 11 percent yields on the new bonds, according to Edwin Gutierrez, a money manager at London-based Aberdeen. Argentina’s yields increased 58 basis points since April 15 to 10.88 percent, JPMorgan indexes show.
Argentine Finance Secretary Hernan Lorenzino said in a phone interview April 28 that the government has “no plans to modify the timeline” and is seeking a yield below 10 percent.
The 18-month rally in emerging-market bonds through mid- April was the biggest in 13 years, sending the yield for bonds included in JPMorgan’s EMBI+ index tumbling from 12 percent in October 2008. Investors poured more than $4 billion into emerging-market bond funds in the three weeks ended April 28, according to Cambridge, Massachusetts-based EPFR Global.
Pimco Stays Bullish
Pacific Investment Management Co., manager of the world’s biggest bond fund, reiterated its bullish stance on emerging markets as recently as April 26. Investors should buy developing-nation debt because the countries’ finances are improving while creditworthiness in the U.S. and Europe is worsening, Mohamed A. El-Erian, who helps oversee about $1 trillion as the chief executive officer of Pimco, told an audience at the Milken Global Institute in Los Angeles.
Debt in emerging markets debt will stay near 2007 levels this year at 39.6 percent of gross domestic product, while rising in advanced nations to 106.7 percent from 78.2 percent, according to International Monetary Fund forecasts. Developing economies will grow about 6.3 percent this year, almost three times faster than wealthier nations, the IMF predicts.
Dominican Republic
The “window remains open” for bond sales, said Cornel Bruhin, an emerging markets fund manager at Zurich-based Clariden Leu AG, which oversees about $91 billion and bought new 10-year bonds last week from the Dominican Republic. The island had its credit rating raised by Moody’s Investors Service last month to B1, four levels below investment grade, from B2. “Fundamentals favor more investments in this asset class,” said Bruhin.
RBC’s Rendell recommended betting on a slump in emerging- market debt by buying credit-default swaps linked to borrowers including Turkey. The contracts, which pay the buyer face value if a borrower reneges on its debt, gain as investor perceptions of creditworthiness deteriorate.
The best time to borrow for some developing nations has probably passed, said Union Investment’s Sergey Dergachev.
Russia raised $5.5 billion at all-time low yields on April 22 in its first Eurobond sale since the government’s 1998 default. The government would have scrapped the offering had it waited another week because “the market was gone,” Deputy Finance Minister Dmitry Pankin said on April 30.
“Russia picked an ideal time to issue when the markets were very tight and risk appetite was extremely positive,” said Dergachev, who helps manage about $6 billion in emerging-market debt in Frankfurt. Developing European countries now “will find it very hard to sell without a premium offered to investors because of contagion risk,” he said.
--With assistance from Piotr Skolimowski in Warsaw, Drew Benson in Buenos Aires, Lilian Karunungan and David Yong in Singapore, Krystof Chamonikolas in Prague, Yusuke Miyazawa in Tokyo, Gabrielle Coppola in New York and Aloysius Unditu in Jakarta. Editors: Gavin Serkin, Stephen Kirkland.
To contact the reporters on this story: Michael Patterson in London at [email protected]; Denis Maternovsky in Moscow at [email protected].
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Gavin Serkin at [email protected]
 

Imark

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Acquisti massivi sull'XBear Cac 40 ... se ne capissi qualcosa di AT, direi che almeno a target prova ad andare, poco sotto quota 58...
 

Imark

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Acquisti massivi sull'XBear Cac 40 ... se ne capissi qualcosa di AT, direi che almeno a target prova ad andare, poco sotto quota 58...

La cosa da ridere è che ci stanno arrivando ora... il messaggio prima l'avevo scritto 30 minuti fa, ed eravamo 3 punti pct sotto... quindi un altro punto e mezzo di CAC 40 al ribasso, a spanne...
 
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