Obbligazioni societarie GM, Ford, Chrysler: il 3D dell'automotive USA (1 Viewer)

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Graphs: Auto Sales in June

le vendite negli Stati Uniti di auto, viste in prospettiva:

Click on graph for larger image in new window.

This graph shows the historical light vehicle sales (seasonally adjusted annual rate) from the BEA (blue) and an estimate for June (red, light vehicle sales of 9.69 million SAAR from AutoData Corp).

June was about average for the year so far on seasonally adjusted basis, and sales are still on pace to be the worst since 1967.


The second graph shows light vehicle sales since the BEA started keeping data in 1967.

The small increase in June hardly shows up on the graph.

In 1967 there were 103 million drivers and 9.54 million light vehicles sold; now there are about twice that many (205.7 million licensed drivers in 2007). Compared to the number of drivers, the current sales rate is the lowest since the BEA started tracking auto sales.

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/07/graphs-auto-sales-in-june.html
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
Si sa che quello della finanza è un mare pieno di scuali :-o :lol:

:D

io ho sempre pensato che in queste grandi corporation ci sia anche un gruppo di avvocati il cui compito è occuparsi di chi è più realista del Re, per evitare problemi legali... e immagino la conversazione: non siamo intervenuti ai tempi in cui quel folle pompava i nostri bond con il supplizio del totem, ma stavolta con le azioni della old GM non abbiamo nulla da perdere a dire che non valgono nulla... :lol:

Un saluto a Shark dal coniglio di IO, ben nascosto nella sua tana... ;) :D
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
la buona notizia è il prossimo anno ci saranno le azioni della NewGM:

General Motors Aims for IPO Next Year

General Motors Aims for IPO Next Year U.S., Canada to Coordinate Efforts to Sell All of Their Controversial Stakes No Later than 2018

General Motors Corp. will file for an initial public offering of shares sometime next year, according to a timetable laid out in a U.S. bankruptcy court on Wednesday.
The auto maker, which entered Chapter 11 court protection on June 1, could emerge from bankruptcy majority owned by the U.S. government as early as this month.
The U.S. will hold an about 60% stake, with the remainder owned by the Canadian government and a union retiree trust fund. The U.S. expects to divest its holdings no later than 2018, in line with a plan laid out by the Canadian government, according to people familiar with the matter. Canada would hold an about 12% stake in the auto maker.


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Frederick 'Fritz' Henderson

The government hasn't disclosed how it would reduce its controversial stake in GM. Ron Bloom, an Obama administration auto task force adviser, said on June 10 that the president "wants to exit as soon as is practicable." He he balked at offering a set schedule, saying it "will create more problems that it solves."
But the people familiar with the matter said the U.S. has agreed to coordinate its GM share sales with Canada, which has a formula to shed its shares.
Canada proposes to sell at least 5% of its GM shares annually, and achieve full divestiture in no more than eight years. It also sets midrange benchmarks for ownership, but the plan could be accelerated or abandoned based on market conditions.
GM's exit from bankruptcy protection hinges on a federal judge's willingness to approve the sale of GM to the U.S. Treasury by July 10. Harry Wilson, a Treasury official, testified in a New York court Wednesday that the government will stop providing financing to GM if there is no sale by that date.
Fund committed to GM's bankruptcy thus far would allow the company to operate only to late August, he said.
Meanwhile, GM Chief Executive Frederick "Fritz" Henderson and advisers are expected to meet later this week to hammer out a more definitive timetable for emerging from bankruptcy protection.
Several lawmakers have expressed concern about the U.S. government's ownership of GM. Some have proposed quick timetables for relinquishing the shares. Sen. Bob Corker (R., Tenn.) has proposed setting up an independent trust to administer the government's stake.
Canadian officials have set out a framework for selling its stake once GM shares are again publicly traded. Last month, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said he agreed with U.S. officials to be "fully divested by eight years maximum."
"What the prime minister announced still stands," Pema Lhalungpa, a spokeswoman for the Canadian government, said Wednesday. Other Canadian officials, including Canada's Minister of Industry Tony Clement, called the exit strategy "part of the Canada-U.S. plan."
One person briefed on the U.S. Treasury's plan said, "As far as we all know, we are going to move forward with a coordinated plan."
The U.S. Treasury and Canada are currently working on picking GM's board members and will disclose them before GM emerges from bankruptcy.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124646098696280443.html
 

leodetti

Nuovo forumer
bond gm

ok ma per i vecchi obbligazionisti gm rimasti con il cerino in mano
ci sono novità e quali ?
il 30 giugno 2009 il giudice fallimentare aveva fissato l'udienza per la vendita degli asset gm, cosa è stato deliberato ?
obiezioni a ciò dovevano essere presentate entro il 19.6.09
ed offerte alternative all'acquisto da parte di altre società dovevano essere depositate entro il 22.6.09
è stato fatto qualcosa di tutto questo ?
scusate se sono concreto ma la maggior parte degli utenti del forum penso non siano degli economisti laureati alla bocconi ma delle semplici persone a cui piacerebbe saperne qualcosa di più di quello che non riescono a sapere nè leggendo i giornali nè tantomeno ascoltando la tv.
leodetti
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
ok ma per i vecchi obbligazionisti gm rimasti con il cerino in mano
ci sono novità e quali ?
il 30 giugno 2009 il giudice fallimentare aveva fissato l'udienza per la vendita degli asset gm, cosa è stato deliberato ?
obiezioni a ciò dovevano essere presentate entro il 19.6.09
ed offerte alternative all'acquisto da parte di altre società dovevano essere depositate entro il 22.6.09
è stato fatto qualcosa di tutto questo ?
scusate se sono concreto ma la maggior parte degli utenti del forum penso non siano degli economisti laureati alla bocconi ma delle semplici persone a cui piacerebbe saperne qualcosa di più di quello che non riescono a sapere nè leggendo i giornali nè tantomeno ascoltando la tv.
leodetti

I laureati alla Bocconi scrivono su altri forum, qui ci sono solo persone che cercano di aiutarsi l'un altro, se possibile, e confrontarsi sui temi finanziari.

Alla base del confronto ci sono anche regole di educazione condivise. I tuoi post iniziano con: "è possibile che non ci siano novità e nient'altro da aggiungere", coem nel 3d dell'Islanda, oppure "ma perchè non scrivete in italiano in modo che sia comprensibile a tutti" - può non essere il modo migliore di porgersi, e può darsi che questo forum non sia all'altezza delle tue aspettative.

Inoltre, i bond GM sono passati da 100 a zero virgola, e quindi anche un investitore non laureato alla Bocconi ha avuto il tempo di accorgersi che si entrava nella categoria di bond a rischio di ristrutturazione, come è avvenuto. Il Chapter 11 è una procedura complessa, e non facile da capire e seguire. Senza una conoscenza poi della lingua inglese, temo non sia facile tenersi aggiornati.

Venendo alle domande, nessuno ha presentato proposte alternative di acquisto di GM, perchè non esistono pazzi. Il giudice, come si poteva capire leggendo un paio di post presenti su questo 3d, sta ascoltando le parti, valutando le opposizioni, e deciderà in merito.
 

Imark

Forumer storico
ok ma per i vecchi obbligazionisti gm rimasti con il cerino in mano
ci sono novità e quali ?
il 30 giugno 2009 il giudice fallimentare aveva fissato l'udienza per la vendita degli asset gm, cosa è stato deliberato ?
obiezioni a ciò dovevano essere presentate entro il 19.6.09
ed offerte alternative all'acquisto da parte di altre società dovevano essere depositate entro il 22.6.09
è stato fatto qualcosa di tutto questo ?
scusate se sono concreto ma la maggior parte degli utenti del forum penso non siano degli economisti laureati alla bocconi ma delle semplici persone a cui piacerebbe saperne qualcosa di più di quello che non riescono a sapere nè leggendo i giornali nè tantomeno ascoltando la tv.
leodetti

Guarda, gli utenti come te mi ricordano certi pulcini nel nido, impegnati esclusivamente nel compito di richiedere a gran voce la pappa pronta.

Gli viene data dai loro genitori, ma qui i forumisti non hanno nessun obbligo parentale nei confronti di chi chiede.

A Firenze un proverbio dice: domandare è lecito, rispondere è cortesia.

A chi, come te, domanda con tanta petulanza, viene da non rispondere affatto.

Intanto studiati un po' di inglese, poi prova a chiedere con garbo: la tua cafonaggine non si sopporta.
 

ilfolignate

Forumer storico
ok ma per i vecchi obbligazionisti gm rimasti con il cerino in mano
ci sono novità e quali ?
il 30 giugno 2009 il giudice fallimentare aveva fissato l'udienza per la vendita degli asset gm, cosa è stato deliberato ?
obiezioni a ciò dovevano essere presentate entro il 19.6.09
ed offerte alternative all'acquisto da parte di altre società dovevano essere depositate entro il 22.6.09
è stato fatto qualcosa di tutto questo ?
scusate se sono concreto ma la maggior parte degli utenti del forum penso non siano degli economisti laureati alla bocconi ma delle semplici persone a cui piacerebbe saperne qualcosa di più di quello che non riescono a sapere nè leggendo i giornali nè tantomeno ascoltando la tv.
leodetti


Cercare di apportare argomenti costruttivi al forum no, eh???? Troppo lavoro immagino!!!! Se ognuno di noi facesse il proprio lavoro con impegno e dedizione forse questo mondo andrebbe un po meglio anziché aspettarsi sempre e comunque le domande con risposte incluse ;)
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
il giudice ha approvato la vendita della NewGM:

Judge approves plan to sell GM assets

* Sale needed to "prevent the death" of GM - judge
* Ruling marks second victory for Obama's auto task force (Changes sourcing, dateline; adds details, background)
By Emily Chasan and Ajay Kamalakaran
NEW YORK/BANGALORE, July 6 (Reuters) - A U.S. judge on Sunday approved General Motors Corp's (GMGMQ.PK) bankruptcy sale, in a move that will allow the company's most profitable assets to exit bankruptcy protection under government ownership.
Judge Robert Gerber of the U.S. bankruptcy court in Manhattan said the sale would "prevent the death of the patient on the operating table."
GM, which filed for bankruptcy protection on June 1, had argued that it would be forced to liquidate if the sale was not approved. The U.S. government said it could walk away from funding the automaker if a deal was not approved by July 10.
"If GM liquidates, there will not only be nothing for stockholders; there will be nothing for unsecured creditors," Judge Gerber said in a 95-page opinion.
Under the deal, New GM will operate the best parts of the old company, including its Chevrolet and Cadillac brands, with a less-expensive workforce, smaller dealer network, and much less debt.
The "old GM," which includes unpopular brands and unneeded factories and liabilities, will remain behind in bankruptcy court to be liquidated.
The U.S. Treasury has agreed to provide $60 billion in financing to the new company, including a proposed $50 billion that would give the U.S. Treasury a 60 percent stake in the company.
The UAW would gain a 17.5 percent stake, the Canadian government would own about 12 percent, and GM bondholders would be expected to obtain about 10 percent of the new company.
At a three-day sale hearing that concluded July 2, some small bondholders had objected to the deal, but no other bidders presented an alternative, and the 100-year-old automaker warned of "catastrophic" consequences to the auto industry if the sale was blocked. [ID:nN0287954]
A successful sale of GM's main assets is the second big victory for the Obama administration's auto task force. It helped broker the sale of Chrysler LLC to a group led by Italy's Fiat SpA (FIA.MI) last month.
A task force official said earlier this month that the government could conduct an initial public offering for the "New GM" as soon as 2010.
The case is In re: General Motors Corp, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Southern District of New York, No. 09-50026. (Additional reporting by JoAnne Allen in Washington; Editing by Lincoln Feast)

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idINN0633188020090706?rpc=44
 

paologorgo

Chapter 11
General Motors Statement Regarding Authorize Sale Released

In a press release issued by General Motors, the Company stated that Judge Robert E. Gerber of the Bankruptcy Court has approved the sale of substantially all of General Motors Corporation's assets to NGMCO, Inc., an entity funded by the U.S. Department of the Treasury. In connection with the closing of the sale transaction, NGMCO, Inc. will change its name to General Motors Company and continue to operate under GM's historic corporate and sub brands. The new company will acquire GM's strongest operations and will have a competitive operating cost structure, partly as a result of recent agreements with the United Auto Workers (UAW) and Canadian Auto Workers (CAW). GM's subsidiaries outside the United States will be acquired by the new company and are expected to continue to operate without interruption. The new GM will be headquartered in Detroit and will be led by Fritz Henderson as president and chief executive officer and Edward E. Whitacre, Jr. as chairman of the board of directors. "A healthy domestic auto industry remains vital to the global economy and we deeply appreciate the support the U.S., Canadian and Ontario governments and taxpayers have given GM, and the sacrifices that have been made by so many. This has been an especially challenging period, and we've had to make very difficult decisions to address some of the issues that have plagued our business for decades. Now it's our responsibility to fix this business and place the company on a clear path to success without delay," said Henderson. The new GM's common stock will be owned by: U.S. Department of the Treasury: 60.8 percent; UAW Retiree Medical Benefits Trust: 17.5 percent; Canada and Ontario governments: 11.7 percent; and the old GM: 10 percent. Additionally, the old GM and the UAW Retiree Medical Benefits Trust will hold warrants that are exercisable for 15 percent and 2.5 percent of the interests in the new GM, respectively. The UAW Retiree Medical Benefits Trust and the Canadian government each may nominate one member to serve on the board of the new GM. The retiree benefits trust has selected seasoned auto industry analyst Stephen Girsky. Also selected to serve on the board of directors of the new GM are six current members of the General Motors Corporation board, including Erroll Davis, Neville Isdell, Kent Kresa, Philip Laskawy, Kathryn Marinello and Fritz Henderson. The Canadian government representative and four additional board members to be identified by the U.S. Treasury will be announced at a later date. Judge Gerber's order includes a four-day stay before closing of the sale can occur. However, GM expects the sale to close in the near future. Current GM employees will be offered positions by the new company. In connection with the closing, the current General Motors Corporation will change its name to Motors Liquidation Company. Retained assets will be wound down or sold. A new board of directors will oversee that process and the liquidation of the company under the supervision of the Bankruptcy Court.
 

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