Grains : corn, wheat, oats,soybeans, soybean meal&oil

Inshar ha scritto:
Di quanto potrebbe scendere? Nel senso, che target avete?
Sono già short, ma il solito problema è che appena vedo 200 $ di profit chiudo
un'idea su quale invece potrebbe essere un target sensato?
:)

Tesoro mio fai molta attenzione ... questa è nitroglicerina ... ed è roba per stomaci forti, oltre che per portafogli tosti.


Quando mi parli di 200$ scusami ma mi scappa da ridere ! Questo se scende si fà 100 cents di ribasso che per ogni contratto fanno 5000$ !
Io ne ho 65 ed al momento sono in marginazione per più di 180.000 $ !

... i tuoi 200$ non fai nemmeno in tempo a vederli su questa roba ... se li bevono in 2 nanosecondi ! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


In cu.lo alla balena !!! ;) :smokin:
 
ditropan ha scritto:
L'ultimo quote non esiste!
Io ho il miniwheat, ogni 100 cents sono 1000 $, quindi quando lo vedevo scendere il 20 c. erano 200 $ ;) infatti mi sono fatte un paio di scalpate da 620 a 600, appunto di 200$ alla volta, poi però dopo l'ultima entrata a 628 è salito e non è più sceso.
Insomma, trading da barboni lo so, ma almeno anche quando è andato a 708 perdevo appena 800$ :)
volevo solo sapere una tua idea sul target, mi secca chiuderlo ora in loss, poi chiaramente posso tenerlo anche fino a 800, non sarebbe una tragedia, ma non so quando chiudere :)
 
Inshar ha scritto:
Io ho il miniwheat, ogni 100 cents sono 1000 $, quindi quando lo vedevo scendere il 20 c. erano 200 $ ;) infatti mi sono fatte un paio di scalpate da 620 a 600, appunto di 200$ alla volta, poi però dopo l'ultima entrata a 628 è salito e non è più sceso.
Insomma, trading da barboni lo so, ma almeno anche quando è andato a 708 perdevo appena 800$ :)
volevo solo sapere una tua idea sul target, mi secca chiuderlo ora in loss, poi chiaramente posso tenerlo anche fino a 800, non sarebbe una tragedia, ma non so quando chiudere :)

si chiude a 550 tra un mese - mese e mezzo. :)
 
solito refrain partenza forte chiusura a xxx :D , utile per mollare qualcosa e scalare in alto i prezzi d carico tra posizioni secche e WC
domani mi aspetto partenza a razzo con limitup :look: :shy:

DJ US Wheat Review: Ends Down After Hitting Fresh 11-Yr Highs

By Tom Polansek
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES


CHICAGO (Dow Jones)--Profit-taking dragged down U.S. wheat futures Thursday
after prices leapt to fresh 11-year highs on tight global supplies, analysts
said.

Chicago Board of Trade September wheat closed down 5 1/2 cents at $6.73 1/2
per bushel. The contract earlier set a fresh 11-year high for a front month
contract of $6.96, exceeding the previous high of $6.82 set Wednesday.

CBOT December wheat closed down 10 cents at $6.91. The contract set a new
all-time high for a second-month of $7.10 1/2, exceeding its previous high of
$7.04.

Kansas City Board of Trade September wheat finished 1 3/4 cents lower at
$6.60 1/4. The contract set a fresh 11-year high for a front-month of $6.74,
topping the contract's previous high of $6.66.

Minneapolis Grain Exchange September wheat settled 1 1/4 cents lower at $6.70
and set a fresh 11-year high of $6.82, exceeding the previous high of $6.72
1/2.

The trade is looking ahead to the release of the U.S. Department of
Agriculture's August crop production and supply/demand reports on Friday,
analysts said. Profit-taking going into the reports pulled prices lower near
the end of the day session, traders said.

Nevertheless, there are bullish expectations the USDA will cut its estimates
for U.S. and world ending stocks. The agency also is expected to lower output
estimates for Canada and the E.U. due to adverse weather, analysts said.

Historically tight global supplies and production problems in the Northern
Hemisphere have driven up U.S. export business recently, and further reductions
could lead to more sales, an analyst said.

"We know demand is driving the market," a market analyst said. "The U.S. is
really the primary port of origin in the world for freshly harvested wheat that
is actually pretty high in quality."

Weekly U.S. wheat export sales for the week ended Aug. 2 were 890,900 metric
tons, within trade estimates of 600,000 to 1.05 million tons. Major buyers
included South Africa, which took 110,000 tons, and Taiwan, which bought
102,400 tons.

The sales were down from the past two weeks, when sales topped 1 million
tons, but still seen as solid, an analyst said. Sales more than 700,000 tons
are considered impressive, he said.

However, some market participants may have interpreted the drop-off as "a red
flag some importers are stepping back" from the market, the analyst said. That
would be bearish, he noted.

In CBOT pit trades, UBS bought 400 September. Fimat spread 1,000
September/December, and Lehman spread 1,000 May/December.

Historic highs in E.U. wheat futures were another early supportive factor for
U.S. wheat, an analyst said. Paris- and London-based wheat futures traded on
Liffe finished firmer, but off session highs.

France's agricultural ministry Thursday reinforced concerns about crop losses
due to adverse weather by pegging the country's soft wheat output at 32.9
million metric tons, 1.1% below last season's crop and down 4.4% on the
previous five-year average. The estimate is 1.8 million tons lower than the
ministry's July forecast.


Kansas City Board of Trade

Weekly export sales were seen as friendly to KCBT wheat futures, and the
market found further support from continued talk about shrinking world
supplies, a floor trader said.

Extreme weather has reduced Bulgaria's annual wheat crop to an estimated 2.2
million tons in 2007 from 3.2 million tons last year, according to government
estimates. Growing areas suffered from heat waves and floods.

The average analyst estimate for 2007-08 U.S. wheat carryout in the USDA crop
report was 402 million bushels, down from the USDA's July estimate of 418
million bushels, according to a Dow Jones Newswires survey.

The average analyst estimate for 2007-08 U.S. all-wheat production was 2.129
billion bushels, down slightly from the USDA's July estimate of 2.138 billion,
according to the survey. In 2006, all wheat production was 1.812 billion.

The average analyst estimate for all winter wheat production was 1.554
billion, down from the USDA's July estimate of 1.562 billion. In 2006, winter
wheat production totaled 1.298 billion.


Minneapolis Grain Exchange

The average analyst estimate for other spring wheat production was 508
million bushels, up from the USDA's July estimate of 498 million, according to
the survey of analysts. In 2006, other spring wheat production was 460 million.

The average analyst estimate for durum production is 78 million bushels, down
from the USDA's July estimate of 79 million. In 2006, durum production totaled
53 million.
 
DJ CBOT Corn Outlook:Down 1-3c After USDA Crop Production Report

By Joe Poncer
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES


CHICAGO (Dow Jones)--Chicago Board of Trade corn futures are predicted to
start daytime trading 1-to-3 cents lower Friday after the U.S. Department of
Agriculture raised its forecast of U.S. corn production and ending stocks data,
analysts said.

In overnight electronic trading before the report September corn fell 3 3/4
cents to $3.28 1/2 per bushel and December also declined 3 3/4 cents to $3.45.
E-CBOT volume in December was 4,722 contracts.

The USDA estimated 2007-08 corn production at 13.054 billion bushels, above
the 12.840 billion estimated in July and the 12.909 billion bushel average
analyst estimate. The yield per acre was projected at 152.8 bushels per acre,
higher than the 150.3 forecast in July and the 151.2 average analyst estimate.

In the supply/demand balance sheet corn used for ethanol was unchanged from
last month while corn exports were raised by 150 million bushels to 2.150
billion. Corn ending stocks were increased by 14 million bushels to 1.516
billion from the 1.502 billion in July.

"Corn production was a little bit bigger and the trend will be for it to get
larger in the fall with good growing conditions so far, so it might be on the
defensive," said Brian Hoops, president of Midwest Market Solutions.

Several major corn producing states reported healthy increases in production.
In Iowa, the largest U.S. corn producing state, production was estimated at
2.511 billion bushels, up over 450 million bushels from last year. In Illinois,
USDA estimated production at 2.314 billion bushels, almost 500 million bushels
above last year.

By 10:45 a.m. EDT the market will have forgotten about this report and will
be trading the off of what happens in the equity markets and the weather, a
commission house analyst said. In addition, the market will be trying to
determine if the crop has improved or declined since Aug 1, when the report was
complied, the analyst added.

In the western U.S. Midwest, scattered showers and thunderstorms with amounts
of 0.10-0.50 inch and locally heavier are forecast for southern Minnesota and
northern Iowa Saturday. Dry weather with only a few light showers are expected
for Sunday and Monday, DTN Meteorologix Weather said. Temperatures will be
above-to-much above normal in the period.

In the eastern U.S. Midwest mostly dry conditions are expected through Monday
with temperatures much above normal with highs in the upper 80s-to-low 100s
degrees Fahrenheit, Meteorologix Weather said.

In the 6-to-10 day outlook, temperatures are expected to average
near-to-above normal west, near-to-below normal east. Rainfall is expected
near-to-below normal.

On daily technical charts, December corn closed near the session low Thursday
after reaching a new four-week high and scored a bearish "outside day" down on
daily technical charts, a technical analyst said.

The bulls' next upside price objective is closing prices above solid
resistance at Thursday's high of $3.60, with the bears' next downside price
objective for market bears is closing prices below $3.36.

First resistance for December corn is seen at $3.50, and then at $3.53. First
support is seen at $3.48, Thursday's low, and then at $3.45.

In other corn news, corn futures on China's Dalian Commodities Exchange
settled mostly lower with the May contract down CNY/2 at CNY1,561 per metric
ton.
 
DJ CBOT Soy Outlook: Seen Up Following USDA; Outside Mkts Eyed

By Andrew Johnson Jr.

Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES


CHICAGO (Dow Jones)--Chicago Board of Trade soybean futures are seen starting
Friday's day session firmer, buoyed by supportive U.S. Department of
Agriculture data and bullish technical momentum while uncertainty in world
equity markets keep traders on edge, analysts said.

CBOT soybean futures are called to start the session 3 to 5 cents higher.

The USDA data is supportive on the surface, with lingering worries over heat
and dryness in the southern Midwest and Delta keeping yield uncertainties in
play, analysts said. However, traders said uncertainty surrounding the effects
of overnight declines in global equity markets could have a definite impact on
market activity.

USDA reported 2007-08 soybean production at 2.625 billion bushels, unchanged
from the July estimate. The USDA estimated 2007-08 soybean ending stocks at 220
million bushels, down 25 million from July, and below the average of estimates
at 247 million. The decline was a reflection of reduced carryin supplies from
2006-07.

USDA trimmed 2006-07 ending stocks by 25 million bushels to 575 million.
Exports were raised 10 million bushels. Crush was raised 15 million bushels
reflecting stronger-than-expected domestic soybean meal disappearance and
exports, USDA reported.

A technical analyst said market bulls have some upside technical momentum on
their side heading into Friday morning's USDA report. The next downside price
objective for November soybeans is closing prices below solid support at $8.50.
The next upside price objective is pushing prices above solid technical and
psychological resistance at $9.00.

First resistance for November soybeans is seen at Thursday's high of $8.80
1/2 and then at $8.90. First support is seen at Thursday's low of $8.70 and
then at $8.64.

The DTN Meteorlogix Weather Service forecast said mostly dry conditions are
on tap for Friday in the western Midwest. Scattered showers and thunderstorms
are seen for southern Minnesota and far northern Iowa on Saturday morning, with
dry conditions or just a few light showers on Sunday and Monday. Temperatures
will average above to much above normal through Tuesday with highs in the upper
80s to upper 90s Fahrenheit cooling back to more normal levels on Wednesday and
Thursday.

In the eastern Midwest, mostly dry conditions are seen through Monday, with
dry conditions or just a few light showers favoring the north on Tuesday and
Wednesday. Temperatures will average above to much above normal through Tuesday
with highs in the upper 80s to low 100s Fahrenheit, Meteorlogix forecasts.

August soybean deliveries totaled 498 lots. A customer account at Man
Professional Clearing was the principal issuer of 219 lots, with a customer
account of Astro Div. of UBS Securities the principal stopper of 359 lots. The
last trade date assigned was August 9.

In overseas markets, crude palm oil futures on Malaysia's derivatives
exchange ended lower Friday as market sentiment was sapped by losses in other
key global commodity and financial markets. The benchmark October contract on
Bursa Malaysia Derivatives ended at MYR2,515 a metric ton, down MYR20 from
Thursday.

Soybean futures traded on the Dalian Commodity Exchange settled mostly higher
Friday, helped by rising cash prices. The benchmark May 2008 soybean contract
settled CNY5 higher at CNY3,532 a metric ton.

Cash soybean prices in China's major producing regions jumped in the week
ended Friday, supported by rising soybean meal prices and weather concerns.
 
ho letto il report
550 sul wheat è interessante, ma a quale scadenza si riferisce? io sono sempre sul dicembre
per il resto, da ciò che vedo, forse ha fatto il top e inizia a scendere, che dite?
oggi non c'è stato poi il paventato limit up
 

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