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UBS Says Stress Tests Results Positive For Greek Banking Sector

The fact that eight Greek and Cypriot banks participated in the CEBS exercise, representing 9% of the total banks tested shows the significant focus on the Greek banking space by EU regulators, as the number of banks tested is disproportionate to their share of EU bank assets (c1.3%), UBS says in a report dated July 26th.
“In our view, this is a positive factor and the rigorous supervision should ensure system stability in these testing times,” the firm notes.

It stresses the result is positive, as given the significantly stricter assumptions for loan losses compared with European peers, the fact that 7 out of 8 Greek/Cypriot banks passed is positive.

“The stress test result is positive but largely expected. The banks confirmed that they can weather a rather challenging asset quality scenario with loan losses of around 8% over two years. However, we remain cautious on the Greek subsector on sovereign concerns,” it indicates.
 
Citi: Contraction Of Greece May Be Less Severe Than Estimated

The policy-induced recession in Greece deepened in H1 2010, with GDP probably falling by 3.0% YY in Q2-but recent data suggest the contraction may be less severe than assumed in the IMF/EU adjustment programme, Citi says in a report dated July 21st.
It adds that fiscal data up to June showed the first effects of the sizable fiscal tightening: in H1 10 the deficit is around 40% lower than one year ago.
Still, it stresses that risks remain elevated about the possibility of a sovereign default in coming years, as domestic banks have been significantly weakened by the crisis and may need public money for recapitalisation, unemployment is rising and a vicious spiral between tighter fiscal policy and falling GDP may still occur.
 
Market still expects debt restructuring

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Investors continue to be skeptical of Greece’s macroeconomics; privatizations, asset sales needed

By Dimitris Kontogiannis - Kathimerini English Edition


Whether Europe's stress tests will end up reducing market uncertainty and appeasing investor concerns about the strength of continental banks remains to be seen.
The stress tests made it clear, however, that the subject of Greek debt restructuring is well entrenched in the minds of many market participants.
In this regard, it looks increasingly likely that Greek authorities may have to prepare for a longer-than-initially-thought battle to change this perception.
Worldwide investors and governments looked upon European bank stress tests as a way to see how many financial institutions will make the grade under some stringent assumptions as regards any unexpected drop in economic output or sharp fall in the value of European government bonds compared to end-2009 levels.

Criticism

The fact that only seven out of 91 banks flunked the tests, including Greece's ATEbank, should have pleased investors. However, a number of them had criticized the assumption of a drop in the price of certain European government bonds, especially those of Greece, as being relatively low when compared to current levels. The Greek 5-year bond has lost about 18 percent of its value to the year to date and therefore the assumption as part of the stress test for 23 percent drop comes close to equating current bond market conditions with the worst-case scenario.
Criticism was also directed at the assumption that the drop in the value of bonds has an effect on the trading portfolio of the banks and not on the bond portfolio held to maturity, where a number of financial institutions, especially Greek banks, have placed the bulk of their sovereign bonds.
A haircut, that is, a drop, in the value of the bonds held to maturity would have been equivalent to a sovereign default. European authorities are obviously unwilling to adopt such a scenario after putting such huge aid mechanisms in place and with so much at stake for the euro.

No change in perception

It is clear that this criticism of the European stress tests would not have been made if a number of investors did not doubt Greece's ability to avoid the restructuring of its debt over the next two to three years. This shows that an easing in the former constant flow of negative news from the country in the last couple of months and positive news on the budget deficit front may have helped to stabilize Greek bonds in the thin secondary market. However, it has not done much to change the market perception that the country will eventually be forced to seek a restructuring of its debt.
Under normal circumstances, the sharp cut in the budget deficit, which Greece is likely to deliver this year, should have eased investors' concerns and paved the way for a change in attitude toward its debt. Even more so had the country continued to show resilience in meeting its deficit reduction target in the first half of 2011.
Unfortunately, this somewhat encouraging news has been partly neutralized by the state's takeover of debts belonging to essentially bankrupt state-owned corporations, such the Hellenic Railways Organization, and others to come.
This is because this cleansing exercise will add more percentage points to the public debt ratio, further reinforcing the idea of a Greek restructuring.
The fact that many international investors want to dispose of their Greek bond holdings following the country's downgrade to junk status by the major credit rating agencies or under instructions by their credit risk units does not help either.
Still it is reasonable to assume that they would have been able to get rid of a good deal of the overhang by the end of 2011 or the first quarter of 2012.
Nevertheless, the interplay of the budget deficit reduction along with the rise in the public debt-to-gross domestic product (GDP) ratio and the positions of many foreign funds and banks in Greek bonds make a number of market participants continue to doubt a good scenario for Greece. This was clearly demonstrated in the criticism directed at the assumptions in stress-testing Greek sovereign bonds.
It is difficult but not impossible to make skeptical investors change their minds. It requires consistency and perseverance on the fiscal front, an economy leaving recession next year and a stabilization of the public debt-to-GDP ratio to below 130 percent despite the takeover of debts from entities of the central government.
The latter cannot be attained without asset sales, such as privatizations and the disposal of real estate holdings, in a relatively short period of a year and a half to two years. This is the indirect message sent to Greece by the investors who were critical of the European bank stress tests.
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Grecia: sciopero bianco uomini radar


Dopo decisione Tribunale su illegalita' sciopero


(ANSA) - ATENE 26 LUG - Continua lo 'sciopero bianco' dei controllori di volo in Grecia. Gli uomini radar greci, dopo la decisione del Tribunale sulla illegalita' dello sciopero indetto dalla loro organizzazione, che sarebbe dovuto iniziare ieri e poi cancellato, hanno deciso di seguire alla lettera le regole internazionali di sicurezza dell'Icao, rispettando rigorosamente la capacita' dello spazio aereo.
 
A mattinata inoltrata l'indice Ase di Atene segna 1600 punti con un + 0,61, consolidando i risultati raggiunti nell'ultima settimana.
Mentre invece lo spread/bund sul decennale è sempre intorno a zona 780 pb., una leggera tendenza al restringimento dovuta - più che altro - ad un bund più deboluccio.
 
Borsa Atene: Ase +0,6%, focus su banche passate a test


MILANO (MF-DJ)--L'indice Ase della Borsa di Atene sale dello 0,6% a quota 1.600,7 punti con un volume di scambi modesto di 25,4 mln euro. Il focus e' sulle banche che hanno superato gli stress test.
Ate cede il 2%, essendo l'unica banca greca ad avere fallito la prova, mentre Alpha e Eurobank salgono rispettivamente del 2,3% e 1,2% e Hellenic Postbank guida il trend con +3,2%.
 


GR '25 TV..IMHO


riprendo il grafico del '25tv titolo che fa' storia a se'...
dopo un tentativo efficace la scorsa settimana per rompere i 50 e tornare agli inferi,...sembra ora reggere questa quota.
Rimango quindi fiduciosa sugli obbiettivi... tp1 a 55 e tp2 a 61..
Buona giornata a tutti..
Jessica.
 
bene bene abbiao una serie di notizie positive sulla Grecia.......:up:
E' da un bel po' di tempo che arrivano tutte notizie positive sulla Grecia eppure nonostante cio' i nostri titoli ellenici sono a valori di default...figuriamoci se arrivavano notizie negative... ci puo' salvare solo un rialzo di qualche agenzia di raiting.
 
E' da un bel po' di tempo che arrivano tutte notizie positive sulla Grecia eppure nonostante cio' i nostri titoli ellenici sono a valori di default...figuriamoci se arrivavano notizie negative... ci puo' salvare solo un rialzo di qualche agenzia di raiting.

La situazione di fondo non è cambiata moltissimo, secondo me... non ho letto tutto quanto avete postato nelle ultime settimane, ma rammento il dato, postato da Tommy un po' di giorni fa, riguardante la situazione greca rispetto ai target di incremento delle entrate e di taglio dei costi, dal quale si rilevava che la Grecia sta facendo molto meglio del previsto nei tagli, ma decisamente peggio nell'incremento delle entrate (che crescono, intendiamoci, ma meno della metà di quanto previsto).

La Grecia sta facendo quello che farebbe una nostra regione del sud se fosse uno stato autonomo: visto che il recupero delle entrate (salvo che quelle generate per effetto dell'aumento di accise e di imposte alla fonte) è difficoltoso da realizzare in poco tempo, intanto taglio quasi tutto quello che posso, e ho idea che abbiano tagliato molto anche in termini di trasferimenti agli enti locali (leggevo sulla stampa internazionale di grosse difficoltà degli enti locali greci a fare fronte ai propri obblighi, perché non ricevono soldi dal livello centrale) e così guadagnano un po' di tempo...

Poi però o riescono a fare pagare qualcosa anche a chi non ha mai pagato, o altrimenti solo tramite tagli la vedo dura, e benzina e sigarette le puoi colpire fino ad un certo punto ...
 
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