giub
New Membro
mi hai convinto
ora sono in book pure lì, ma sotto di 100 bps con un multiday, vediamo se entro i prox gg mi servono
MOT o TLX? E quanti K? Sotto 100 bps a cosa? il denaro? Non ti vedo.....
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MOT o TLX? E quanti K? Sotto 100 bps a cosa? il denaro? Non ti vedo.....
discipline
Forumer storico
Prossimi messaggi solo in pmecco...potevi startene zitto Discipline!
Cmq con me puoi stare tranquillo, non mi metto a sgomitare per la prima posizione in denaro, ben sotto nel book invece.. se sale bene, per scendere c'è sempre tempo..
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ferdo
Utente Senior
ci saranno almeno 200k davanti ...
al ritmo di discesa di questi gg mi eseguono tra 2 gg
giub
New Membro
già l'11 potrà dire qualcosa. Ma tutto il mese mi sembra "pregno"....
Poi speriamo che decidano qualcosa, nel bene o nel male e non continuino a vivere alla giornata....
giub
New Membro
ah anche io...per quello non mi servono...Prossimi messaggi solo in pm
Comunque questa mattina la 14 ha fatto 5k a 70,42.....
Me lo avessero detto anche ai minimi di gennaio non ci avrei creduto....
tommy271
Forumer storico
Che l'SPD conti pochissimo non mi pare ... specie dopo che la Merkel ha perso il controllo di una camera.
Nelle elezioni dei Lander stanno facendo il pieno ... e i Lander hanno potere, non sono le nostre "Regioni"...
Nella stampa tedesca è prevalente la presenza del gruppo "Springer" che con la sua Bild è peso importante, ma ci sono anche altri giornali che fanno opinione.
Comunque sono d'accordo con te, difficile chiedere ad un tedesco di tirare fuori i soldi per la Grecia.
Basterebbe però che certi titoli sparati ad "arte" sulla Bild fossero diretti su altre problematiche e vedrai che l'opinione pubblica non direbbe nulla: al momento gli "aiuti" non sono regali ma rimangono prestiti ben remunerati.
E la Germania ne sopporta il peso in proporzione al suo Status, insieme a tutti gli altri.
Ogni nazione ha i politici che si merita, espressione dei momenti che viviamo.
discipline
Forumer storico
Ho un acquisto fatto a 69.5 la settimana prima dell'annuncio del fondo di emergenza, parliamo dello scorso anno. Pare che da allora non sia cambiato molto nei fatti, se oggi la percezione del rischio greco e i rendimenti richiesti sono quasi a quei livelli.
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tommy271
Forumer storico
Ad Atene le contrattazioni proseguono con un ripresa dei corsi dell'indice ASE, ora intorno a 1545 punti con +1,38%. Volumi nella media.
Vediamo se si tratterà di un rimbalzo tecnico.
I nostri spread rimangono stazionari intorno a 968 pb.
Rammento un parallelo tra Bond e Borsa: eravamo intorno ai 1370/1400 punti quando i GGB erano sopra i 1000 pb.
Vediamo se si tratterà di un rimbalzo tecnico.
I nostri spread rimangono stazionari intorno a 968 pb.
Rammento un parallelo tra Bond e Borsa: eravamo intorno ai 1370/1400 punti quando i GGB erano sopra i 1000 pb.
tommy271
Forumer storico
Greece to Launch U.S. Diaspora Bond in 2011
By ALKMAN GRANITSAS And CYNTHIA LIN
ATHENS—-Greece aims to offer its first diaspora bond to U.S. retail investors in the first half of this year, a senior Greek finance-ministry official said Wednesday, after it filed a shelf-registration with U.S. regulators to proceed with the issue.
Greece plans to raise up to $3 billion from the bonds, which will be sold in a series of tranches every six months to a year, the official said.
"This is a first-half item. What we have done with the shelf-registration is to establish our intent to proceed with the program," the official said. "We won't issue the full amount all at once, but rather in bits and pieces."
Greece's government has previously said it intended to offer diaspora bonds in 2011 to appeal to retail investors of Greek descent living abroad, as it looks for new ways to raise financing after being effectively frozen out of international capital markets since last year by prohibitively high borrowing costs.
The official added that the government hoped to appoint advisers for the bond issue in the near future and was aiming for a yield of below 5%. The likely maturities are expected to be between three and 10 years.
Last May, Greece narrowly avoided default with the help of a €110 billion ($152.89 billion) bailout from the European Union and International Monetary Fund. The country has been struggling to convince investors that it will make good on its debt burden. Although the government has cut the budget deficit by a third to 9.6% of gross domestic product in 2010, Greece is laboring under a staggering public debt of €340 billion—about one and-a-half times the size of the Greek economy. That debt ratio is expected to rise to 158% of gross domestic product over the next two years.
Since accepting the bailout, Greece has resumed issuing short-term Treasury bills at regular monthly auctions, but it has been unable to issue longer-dated debt amid ongoing investor worries that Greece may default or be forced to restructure its debt.
In the past few weeks, interest rates on Greek government bonds have been brushing record-high levels, with the yield on Greece's 10-year bond hovering close to 13%. Adding to its woes, Moody's Investor Service this week downgraded Greece's sovereign debt three notches deeper into non-investment grade, or junk territory, to B1 from Ba1, and warned of further downgrades to come.
With the diaspora bond, Greece hopes to tap into the ideal buyer's national pride. Such bonds are issued to reach Greek citizens living abroad and Americans of Greek descent, and loosely follows a 60 year-old program by the Israeli government.
After the U.S. issue, Greece also aims to issue similar bonds to the Greek diaspora in other countries, with the next program likely to target Greek-Canadians, the official said.
"The intention is that this issue will be followed by other retail issues in Canada and Australia, and potentially in other areas of the euro zone," the official said. "All of these issues will be denominated in local currencies."
The concept of raising money from nationals beyond a country's borders isn't new. Israel has been a major user of this tool since 1951. According to the website of the Development Corporation for Israel, the corporation offers a variety of notes as retail investments, enabling those living abroad to make checks out to the State of Israel. Current sales include 10-year Jubilee bonds at a 4.36% yield and five-year Mazel Tov bonds sold at 2.2899%.
Research by a World Bank economist and Vanderbilt professor showed that diaspora bonds often fetch a "patriotic" discount in borrowing costs.
"Besides patriotism or the desire to do good in the investor's country of origin, such a discount can also be explained by the fact that diaspora investors may be more willing and able to take on sovereign risks of default in hard currency, as well as devaluation, as they may have local-currency liabilities and they may be able to influence the borrower's decision to service such debt," the report noted.
The preliminary filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission noted that proceeds will be used by the government for general funding purposes.
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Non posso che augurarmi un buon successo.
E' la prima volta che la Grecia si lancia su Bond pluriennali dopo le misure di salvataggio.
Un rendimento pagato attorno al 5% sarebbe un successone pieno.
By ALKMAN GRANITSAS And CYNTHIA LIN
ATHENS—-Greece aims to offer its first diaspora bond to U.S. retail investors in the first half of this year, a senior Greek finance-ministry official said Wednesday, after it filed a shelf-registration with U.S. regulators to proceed with the issue.
Greece plans to raise up to $3 billion from the bonds, which will be sold in a series of tranches every six months to a year, the official said.
"This is a first-half item. What we have done with the shelf-registration is to establish our intent to proceed with the program," the official said. "We won't issue the full amount all at once, but rather in bits and pieces."
Greece's government has previously said it intended to offer diaspora bonds in 2011 to appeal to retail investors of Greek descent living abroad, as it looks for new ways to raise financing after being effectively frozen out of international capital markets since last year by prohibitively high borrowing costs.
The official added that the government hoped to appoint advisers for the bond issue in the near future and was aiming for a yield of below 5%. The likely maturities are expected to be between three and 10 years.
Last May, Greece narrowly avoided default with the help of a €110 billion ($152.89 billion) bailout from the European Union and International Monetary Fund. The country has been struggling to convince investors that it will make good on its debt burden. Although the government has cut the budget deficit by a third to 9.6% of gross domestic product in 2010, Greece is laboring under a staggering public debt of €340 billion—about one and-a-half times the size of the Greek economy. That debt ratio is expected to rise to 158% of gross domestic product over the next two years.
Since accepting the bailout, Greece has resumed issuing short-term Treasury bills at regular monthly auctions, but it has been unable to issue longer-dated debt amid ongoing investor worries that Greece may default or be forced to restructure its debt.
In the past few weeks, interest rates on Greek government bonds have been brushing record-high levels, with the yield on Greece's 10-year bond hovering close to 13%. Adding to its woes, Moody's Investor Service this week downgraded Greece's sovereign debt three notches deeper into non-investment grade, or junk territory, to B1 from Ba1, and warned of further downgrades to come.
With the diaspora bond, Greece hopes to tap into the ideal buyer's national pride. Such bonds are issued to reach Greek citizens living abroad and Americans of Greek descent, and loosely follows a 60 year-old program by the Israeli government.
After the U.S. issue, Greece also aims to issue similar bonds to the Greek diaspora in other countries, with the next program likely to target Greek-Canadians, the official said.
"The intention is that this issue will be followed by other retail issues in Canada and Australia, and potentially in other areas of the euro zone," the official said. "All of these issues will be denominated in local currencies."
The concept of raising money from nationals beyond a country's borders isn't new. Israel has been a major user of this tool since 1951. According to the website of the Development Corporation for Israel, the corporation offers a variety of notes as retail investments, enabling those living abroad to make checks out to the State of Israel. Current sales include 10-year Jubilee bonds at a 4.36% yield and five-year Mazel Tov bonds sold at 2.2899%.
Research by a World Bank economist and Vanderbilt professor showed that diaspora bonds often fetch a "patriotic" discount in borrowing costs.
"Besides patriotism or the desire to do good in the investor's country of origin, such a discount can also be explained by the fact that diaspora investors may be more willing and able to take on sovereign risks of default in hard currency, as well as devaluation, as they may have local-currency liabilities and they may be able to influence the borrower's decision to service such debt," the report noted.
The preliminary filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission noted that proceeds will be used by the government for general funding purposes.
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Non posso che augurarmi un buon successo.
E' la prima volta che la Grecia si lancia su Bond pluriennali dopo le misure di salvataggio.
Un rendimento pagato attorno al 5% sarebbe un successone pieno.
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Baro
Umile contadino
Il governo greco si aspetta addirittura di strappare un rendimento sotto al 5%...Credo che questa news sia da ascrivere alle varie pressioni prima del summit di fine mese...
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