tommy271
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La Tigre, credo sia il primo ad affondare ... con il sistema bancario che si ritrova.
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La Tigre, credo sia il primo ad affondare ... con il sistema bancario che si ritrova.
Nobody's
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Mi piaceva sapere l' idea della platea.....Per me questi non valgono nulla
Però noto che si polemizza su tutto
quindi volevo sentire di cosa si riempivano stavolta
Nobody's
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Che ne pensi su quel fronte?
Sono particolarmente preoccupato....visto che c' ho
messo troppi soldi e sono totalmente incastrato....Su questo fronte ne ho sempre perso finora
Ne avessi azzeccata una.....
tommy271
Forumer storico
Mi piaceva sapere l' idea della platea.....Per me questi non valgono nulla
Però noto che si polemizza su tutto
Probabilmente faranno parte del prossimo esecutivo.
Ricordo che in Irlanda l'opposizione tuonava contro il Fianna Fail ma, alla fine, una volta al Governo le cose non sono cambiate di molto rispetto ai predecessori.
Volevano riaprire i termini degli accordi di salvataggio, ma finora non hanno concluso nulla.
Nobody's
Γένοιο οἷος εἷ
Che ne pensi su quel fronte?
Sono particolarmente preoccupato....visto che c' ho
Su questo fronte ne ho sempre perso finora
Ne avessi azzeccata una.....
Mi sa che nelle risalite....azzoppo il cavallo......non mi fido
tommy271
Forumer storico
Che ne pensi su quel fronte?
Sono particolarmente preoccupato....visto che c' ho
Su questo fronte ne ho sempre perso finora
Ne avessi azzeccata una.....
Credo che per i bondholder sia la situazione più pericolosa ... rispetto a Grecia e Portogallo.
Troppe le insidie e le possibili vie di uscita.
tommy271
Forumer storico
Orphanides: Greece speculation harming euro zone April 20, 2011
Any form of Greek restructuring of its debt mountain would harm the country and could trigger contagion throughout the euro zone, ECB Governing Council member Athanasios Orphanides said in an interview.
Orphanides also said mounting speculation in financial markets that Greece will have to renegotiate the terms of its public debt was damaging the euro area, and said the terms of an IMF/EU bailout, while tough, were appropriate.
"Under the circumstances, restructuring would be quite damaging to the Greek economy," he told Reuters. "In addition, I believe it would be quite damaging to the euro area overall because of the possibility of contagion effects.
"Since restructuring is both undesirable and unnecessary I believe it is not helpful for officials in the EU to keep bringing it up."
Restructuring could be avoided as long as the Greek government -- which took a 110 billion euros bailout last May -- continued to meet austerity programme targets and had support from its EU peers.
"Support from other member states is critical," Orphanides said.
Financial markets are increasingly convinced Greece will have to renegotiate the terms of its public debt, believing its economy cannot grow fast enough to service a burden that is set to swell to almost 160 percent of national output.
Greece's debt load of 325 billion euros ($468 billion), at the end of 2010, is nearly double the level most economists see as sustainable, and far bigger than the debt pile of Argentina when it defaulted in late 2001. The debt is expected to rise to 340 billion at the end of 2011.
"This public discussion and market speculation is ... quite damaging to the euro area overall," Orphanides said.
NOT SELF-FULFILLING
Despite official aversion, the idea of some form of "voluntary" restructuring is gaining momentum among some European officials -- a scenario under which bondholders would agree to roll over on their holdings next year or extend their maturities, possibly in combination with buying of Greek bonds on the primary market by the EU's rescue fund.
Orphanides dismissed suggestions that market speculation of a restructure could gain enough momentum to force it, saying Greece could count on the political support of its partners.
"In the case of a euro area member state, and Greece is a euro area member state, talk of restructuring cannot become a self-fulfilling prophesy in the same sense that could have been the case for other countries that are not part of the European Union.
"The reason for that is very simple; in the European Union a member state can count on the political support and solidarity from other member states."
In Greece itself, restructuring talk has gained ground within a public jaded by austerity measures and having to face painful cuts in public sector salaries and pensions.
A lot of public frustration at the measures was justified, said Orphanides, who is half-Greek.
"At the same time I trust that now the situation is clear; there is much better information about the necessary adjustment and the Greek people will persevere," he said.
(Financialmirror.com)
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Any form of Greek restructuring of its debt mountain would harm the country and could trigger contagion throughout the euro zone, ECB Governing Council member Athanasios Orphanides said in an interview.
Orphanides also said mounting speculation in financial markets that Greece will have to renegotiate the terms of its public debt was damaging the euro area, and said the terms of an IMF/EU bailout, while tough, were appropriate.
"Under the circumstances, restructuring would be quite damaging to the Greek economy," he told Reuters. "In addition, I believe it would be quite damaging to the euro area overall because of the possibility of contagion effects.
"Since restructuring is both undesirable and unnecessary I believe it is not helpful for officials in the EU to keep bringing it up."
Restructuring could be avoided as long as the Greek government -- which took a 110 billion euros bailout last May -- continued to meet austerity programme targets and had support from its EU peers.
"Support from other member states is critical," Orphanides said.
Financial markets are increasingly convinced Greece will have to renegotiate the terms of its public debt, believing its economy cannot grow fast enough to service a burden that is set to swell to almost 160 percent of national output.
Greece's debt load of 325 billion euros ($468 billion), at the end of 2010, is nearly double the level most economists see as sustainable, and far bigger than the debt pile of Argentina when it defaulted in late 2001. The debt is expected to rise to 340 billion at the end of 2011.
"This public discussion and market speculation is ... quite damaging to the euro area overall," Orphanides said.
NOT SELF-FULFILLING
Despite official aversion, the idea of some form of "voluntary" restructuring is gaining momentum among some European officials -- a scenario under which bondholders would agree to roll over on their holdings next year or extend their maturities, possibly in combination with buying of Greek bonds on the primary market by the EU's rescue fund.
Orphanides dismissed suggestions that market speculation of a restructure could gain enough momentum to force it, saying Greece could count on the political support of its partners.
"In the case of a euro area member state, and Greece is a euro area member state, talk of restructuring cannot become a self-fulfilling prophesy in the same sense that could have been the case for other countries that are not part of the European Union.
"The reason for that is very simple; in the European Union a member state can count on the political support and solidarity from other member states."
In Greece itself, restructuring talk has gained ground within a public jaded by austerity measures and having to face painful cuts in public sector salaries and pensions.
A lot of public frustration at the measures was justified, said Orphanides, who is half-Greek.
"At the same time I trust that now the situation is clear; there is much better information about the necessary adjustment and the Greek people will persevere," he said.
(Financialmirror.com)
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Nobody's
Γένοιο οἷος εἷ
Ok.....la pensi come me allora
L' azzoppo....
Questa storia mi da preocupazione......più di tutte......
Oggi parlando con un finanziario.... da le nostre stesse tesi.....perciò....il sentimento è piuttosto comune....
tommy271
Forumer storico
Slovak Ruling Party Won’t Support Permanent EU Bailout Fund
By Radoslav Tomek - Apr 20, 2011 4:05 PM GMT+0200 Wed Apr 20 14:05:47 GMT 2011
The Freedom and Solidarity party, one of four coalition members, will vote against Slovak participation in the so-called European Stability Mechanism, which is set to be created in 2013 to help distressed countries, Chairman Richard Sulik said today. Prime Minister Iveta Radicova’s government will therefore need the support of the opposition, led by her predecessor and fierce critic Robert Fico, to approve the country’s participation.
“We are here to defend interests of Slovak citizens, not the interests of foreign banks, which have for a long time made profits on high interest on loans to irresponsible countries,” Sulik, who is also parliamentary speaker, said at a press conference in Bratislava, Slovakia.
European leaders agreed last month agreed to set up the ESM to replace a temporary bailout fund called the European Financial Stability Facility, created after Greek fiscal troubles escalated. As the crisis spreads to other countries, including Portugal, voters in northern euro-region members are becoming increasingly reluctant to use taxpayers’ money to help debt-laden peers.
Member countries are supposed to contribute 80 billion euros ($116 billion) in cash to the permanent fund and pledge 620 billion euros in guarantees to secure the mechanism’s AAA rating and an effective lending capacity of 500 billion euros. Under the plan, Slovakia’s share would be about 600 million euros in cash.
While supporting the creation of the temporary facility, Radicova’s coalition last year rejected Slovakia’s participation in an international bailout of Greece.
The four-party coalition has 77 deputies in the 150-seat chamber, including 21 lawmakers from Freedom and Solidarity. Radicova said today she will negotiate with all parliamentary parties and seek their support for the ESM.
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By Radoslav Tomek - Apr 20, 2011 4:05 PM GMT+0200 Wed Apr 20 14:05:47 GMT 2011
The Freedom and Solidarity party, one of four coalition members, will vote against Slovak participation in the so-called European Stability Mechanism, which is set to be created in 2013 to help distressed countries, Chairman Richard Sulik said today. Prime Minister Iveta Radicova’s government will therefore need the support of the opposition, led by her predecessor and fierce critic Robert Fico, to approve the country’s participation.
“We are here to defend interests of Slovak citizens, not the interests of foreign banks, which have for a long time made profits on high interest on loans to irresponsible countries,” Sulik, who is also parliamentary speaker, said at a press conference in Bratislava, Slovakia.
European leaders agreed last month agreed to set up the ESM to replace a temporary bailout fund called the European Financial Stability Facility, created after Greek fiscal troubles escalated. As the crisis spreads to other countries, including Portugal, voters in northern euro-region members are becoming increasingly reluctant to use taxpayers’ money to help debt-laden peers.
Member countries are supposed to contribute 80 billion euros ($116 billion) in cash to the permanent fund and pledge 620 billion euros in guarantees to secure the mechanism’s AAA rating and an effective lending capacity of 500 billion euros. Under the plan, Slovakia’s share would be about 600 million euros in cash.
While supporting the creation of the temporary facility, Radicova’s coalition last year rejected Slovakia’s participation in an international bailout of Greece.
The four-party coalition has 77 deputies in the 150-seat chamber, including 21 lawmakers from Freedom and Solidarity. Radicova said today she will negotiate with all parliamentary parties and seek their support for the ESM.
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METHOS
Forumer storico
Ma lì lo stato è più sano mentre le banche sono marce. Devono scegliere se fare come l'islanda o andare giù
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